[Car-Addicted]

Californians shocked by electric bills after rate hike: 'Like you're getting punished'
2/06/2004
Some California residents are "stunned" by the high cost of their latest electric and gas bill, after a major utility company raised prices for millions of customers last month.
"It’s almost like you’re getting punished," 90-year-old Dorothy Lovell told The San Francisco Chronicle. The Santa Rosa resident's utility bill was $696.64 in January.
PG&E is also one of three major utility companies in California whose rates could soon be based on "equity" after Assembly Bill 205 passed last year. The bill allows the California Public Utilities Commission to charge customers fixed rates based on their income.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/califo...tting-punished

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Californians shocked by electric bills after rate hike: 'Like you're getting punished'
2/06/2004
Some California residents are "stunned" by the high cost of their latest electric and gas bill, after a major utility company raised prices for millions of customers last month.
"It’s almost like you’re getting punished," 90-year-old Dorothy Lovell told The San Francisco Chronicle. The Santa Rosa resident's utility bill was $696.64 in January.
PG&E is also one of three major utility companies in California whose rates could soon be based on "equity" after Assembly Bill 205 passed last year. The bill allows the California Public Utilities Commission to charge customers fixed rates based on their income.
https://www.foxnews.com/media/califo...tting-punished

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

So what I understand from this is that everyone in Cal will be asked to provide proof of their total income and savings to determine how the utility company feels they should charge them.

[Car-Addicted]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

So what I understand from this is that everyone in Cal will be asked to provide proof of their total income and savings to determine how the utility company feels they should charge them.

Well there is state income tax but the question is allowing third party (utilities) to have access to tax payer information I'm sure it strikes you as odd that the type of folks that dream this crap up are not big on facts and details. I suspect this will see a few court challenges as non government means tested fees are a little ticklish even in post constitutional America.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by Car-Addicted

Well there is state income tax but the question is allowing third party (utilities) to have access to tax payer information I'm sure it strikes you as odd that the type of folks that dream this crap up are not big on facts and details. I suspect this will see a few court challenges as non government means tested fees are a little ticklish even in post constitutional America.

I know for a fact that one v large car and house insurance company over here passes confidential application form information to our own 'irs'.

[M5Rick]

Hydrogen fuelled vehicle looks like a flop.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

Hydrogen fuelled vehicle looks like a flop.

I got the sense the guy in the video is a bit of a Tesla fanboy.

[kyriian]

James May already made a nice review, far more unbiased.

And there will be applications where this will work, as James said where H2 is readily available. It won't be for everywhere, just like EVs aren't for every application.

[crAbb]

[Burrcold]

Where's the "I've ordered 15 Plaids and LMAOOOOOOOO" guy disappeared to through all of this?

[M5Rick]

I agree that GT should be back at school.

Jordan Petersen puts young people straight.

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

I agree that GT should be back at school.

Jordan Petersen puts young people straight.

Excellent post.

I don't know who Jordan Peterson is. He sounds rational though. I remember in this thread at least I think it is this thread, there were a few climate guys that I posted back and forth with. H20doc was one such gentleman. The discussion centered with H20doc being adamant that scientists completely know how the climate works and have the solution. I asked H20doc, if that is the case then what is the plan, what is the mechanism, and what date in climate history are we reaching back to as being the ideal climate. I also asked does the plan include keeping the climate static going forward from when we've reached the day the climate (before humans have screwed it up) was ideal. I never got an answer.

Peterson's diatribe is much the same question; where do we want to get to in climate history, and how are we going to get there?

And I still ask, how does the climate repair model and mechanism deal with plate tectonics? Current science can't even predict earthquakes.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Where's the "I've ordered 15 Plaids and LMAOOOOOOOO" guy disappeared to through all of this?

I think he's seeing the 2035 deadline collapsing and has gone into hiding.

[Alfisti]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

I don't know who Jordan Peterson is.

Damn.

He once made a ton of sense but as of late has moments of far right insanity ... then he has clarity. He's a weird cat.

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

Excellent post.

I don't know who Jordan Peterson is. He sounds rational though. I remember in this thread at least I think it is this thread, there were a few climate guys that I posted back and forth with. H20doc was one such gentleman. The discussion centered with H20doc being adamant that scientists completely know how the climate works and have the solution. I asked H20doc, if that is the case then what is the plan, what is the mechanism, and what date in climate history are we reaching back to as being the ideal climate. I also asked does the plan include keeping the climate static going forward from when we've reached the day the climate (before humans have screwed it up) was ideal. I never got an answer.

Peterson's diatribe is much the same question; where do we want to get to in climate history, and how are we going to get there?

And I still ask, how does the climate repair model and mechanism deal with plate tectonics? Current science can't even predict earthquakes.

He was a deeply divisive psychology professor from the U of T. Vox seems to have a fairly complete history on his transphobia. So another right wing social media personality, just with maple syrup instead of guns.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/26/...rules-for-life

[Efthreeoh]

Originally Posted by kyriian

He was a deeply divisive psychology professor from the U of T. Vox seems to have a fairly complete history on his transphobia. So another right wing social media personality, just with maple syrup instead of guns.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/26/...rules-for-life

He was? Did someone kill him?

[kyriian]

Originally Posted by Efthreeoh

He was? Did someone kill him?

Was, as in was a professor, before finding a career fueling right wing fires on youtube.

[crAbb]

Originally Posted by kyriian

He was a deeply divisive psychology professor from the U of T. Vox seems to have a fairly complete history on his transphobia. So another right wing social media personality, just with maple syrup instead of guns.

https://www.vox.com/world/2018/3/26/...rules-for-life

I've seen alot of him, and never heard he being transphobic. Factual? Yes. Transphobic? No.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by crAbb

Also who care about the fart sound Tesla can produce. I take the done right, screaming engine sound emitted from a muscle car any day

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Burrcold

Where's the "I've ordered 15 Plaids and LMAOOOOOOOO" guy disappeared to through all of this?

I think he is busy shopping for new tires for all his EVs

Bridgestone’s Senior Product Manager Brad Robison says the company’s internal testing shows that EVs “go through a set of tires roughly 30-40 percent more quickly than their comparable ICE counterparts.” Other tire manufacturers more or less said the same thing.


https://jalopnik.com/heres-how-ev-ti...res-1851217581

[eugenebmw]

An expensive lesson Hertz has to swallow from EVs

https://www.theverge.com/2024/2/5/24...r-fleet-resale

[TboneS54]

Originally Posted by crAbb

I've seen alot of him, and never heard he being transphobic. Factual? Yes. Transphobic? No.

Remember, facts are secondary to feelings now. If you make a factual statement, and someone feels hurt by it, you are a bigot.

If I recall, he refused to use make-believe pronouns of a (or multiple) college student(s), and the college fired him or placed him on leave.

As I said, that's now tantamount to bigotry.

[Car-Addicted]

Now we know why The EV market is losing ground!
‘Mr. Bean’ Star Rowan Atkinson Blamed for Slow EV Sales
The actor was name-checked in the British House of Lords on Tuesday during its environment and climate change committee meeting, Sky News reports.
Thinktank Green Alliance outlined the main obstacles the government faces in its bid to push petrol and diesel cars to the kerb before 2035, pointing to a newspaper comment piece by the Johnny English star published in June 2023 as damaging to the cause.
The pressure group told peers in a letter an opinion piece by Atkinson damaged the cause of EV take-ups. The missive read in part:
He suggested solutions like drivers keeping the same car for longer periods of time and increased use of synthetic fuel would negate the need for EVs, saying: “Increasingly, I’m feeling that our honeymoon with electric cars is coming to an end, and that’s no bad thing.”
Atkinson further noted greenhouse gas emissions created in the production of an electric car were 70 percent higher than in the manufacturing of a gas car due to the use of lithium ion batteries.
“They’re absurdly heavy, huge amounts of energy are required to make them, and they are estimated to last only upwards of 10 years. It seems a perverse choice of hardware with which to lead the automobile’s fight against the climate crisis,” Atkinson wrote.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2...slow-ev-sales/

"Thinktank Green Alliance" May be the oxymoron of the year.