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Originally Posted by RSL

You've definitely got issues, but that E60 map really makes a mess, stay off it until you get things sorted. I expected the OTS map to behave better with less demand from the fuel system, and it does to some extent, but the flat AFR, no boost and still falling HPFP on it are perplexing. On the 93 map, AFRs would seem to indicate it's in open loop (stoich throughout), but it's trimming, which would make me think that it's not open loop and O2s are working fine. Why it's targeting little/no boost and flat AFR is the question...maybe it is in a limp mode.

If it were me, I'd go all the way back to square one. Do a full/long write back to the OEM bin with absolutely no flash-time options (unless 3.5 bar if you have one installed) and use INPA to reset all AFR/injector/fuel pump adaptations, run 93 only and try again to take anything tune-related completely off the table.

You have not had any other codes besides the cyl 1 misfire? Were they cleared and car restarted prior to the 93 OTS pull? Did you do a leak down test or just a compression test?

I'll keep thinking on this, but moved in a whole other direction than I was expecting at this point...

So the thing was I was like 20% throttle so I didn't hit boost but I did not do a leakdown test. I'm going to take a log in 5/10 minutes and see whats up I think I can get a WOT tune stay tuned. My engine is well maintained and before changing plugs coils valve cover gasket I never had this issue makes me seem something is up with the .020 gap on the NGKS

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best log I was able to get http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/misfire-4

[RSL]

Better. Was there any misfire on that? If so, plugs may need to be changed yet again from the mess before. Most everything looks better, but throttle is wide open (~81%) and only showing ~50% pedal (~125 load), which is likely the source of the 14:1 AFR targeting. It's reaching high 13:1 in higher RPM and is trimming up, so neither a fuel problem nor sensor problem. Are you not flooring it at all or is something up with the pedal mapping?

Timing is OK, HPFP is OK, no corrections or anything. Do a pull and floor it so we can see full load behavior. If you're concerned about it still, floor it around 2500rpm and pull only up to 4000-4500rpm and check the logs. If AFRs still look safe, do a full floored log 2500-5500rpm and post it, but everything is beginning to look like it should the more you get into it. If you get actually floored clean runs out of this OTS map, your misfire problem lies solely in that E60 map or the quantity/content of the E85 that's going in the tank for it.

[f87king]

Originally Posted by RSL

Better. Was there any misfire on that? If so, plugs may need to be changed yet again from the mess before. Most everything looks better, but throttle is wide open (~81%) and only showing ~50% pedal (~125 load), which is likely the source of the 14:1 AFR targeting. It's reaching high 13:1 in higher RPM and is trimming up, so neither a fuel problem nor sensor problem. Are you not flooring it at all or is something up with the pedal mapping?

Timing is OK, HPFP is OK, no corrections or anything. Do a pull and floor it so we can see full load behavior. If you're concerned about it still, floor it around 2500rpm and pull only up to 4000-4500rpm and check the logs. If AFRs still look safe, do a full floored log 2500-5500rpm and post it, but everything is beginning to look like it should the more you get into it. If you get actually floored clean runs out of this OTS map, your misfire problem lies solely in that E60 map or the quantity/content of the E85 that's going in the tank for it.

No misfire on that but regapped plugs and went back at it 2 full pulls no misfire slight jerking and then 3rd pull misfire

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Originally Posted by RSL

Better. Was there any misfire on that? If so, plugs may need to be changed yet again from the mess before. Most everything looks better, but throttle is wide open (~81%) and only showing ~50% pedal (~125 load), which is likely the source of the 14:1 AFR targeting. It's reaching high 13:1 in higher RPM and is trimming up, so neither a fuel problem nor sensor problem. Are you not flooring it at all or is something up with the pedal mapping?

Timing is OK, HPFP is OK, no corrections or anything. Do a pull and floor it so we can see full load behavior. If you're concerned about it still, floor it around 2500rpm and pull only up to 4000-4500rpm and check the logs. If AFRs still look safe, do a full floored log 2500-5500rpm and post it, but everything is beginning to look like it should the more you get into it. If you get actually floored clean runs out of this OTS map, your misfire problem lies solely in that E60 map or the quantity/content of the E85 that's going in the tank for it.

http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/no-misfire
http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/misfired
did not misfire in one misfired in the next. pulls were back to back.

[RSL]

Perfect, validated my point. This issue may be partially or completely inflicted solely by your right foot. It needs some lead in it. Accelerator should be at 100% and misfires seem to occur around 120 load.

More pedal, still never gets to 100%, but enough to get load over 160 early and you have no misfire and good AFRs. Bank 1 is a little wobbly on AFR, but may straighten out once you get a true full-pedal pull.
http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/no-mi...a=2-3-18-22-25

Never goes over 55% pedal and creeps up to 120 load = misfire.
http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/misfi...-25&zoom=13-41

If you're going to continue to accelerate like that, you may just need a tune that accommodates it, otherwise, get into 3rd gear 2500rpm and put the pedal ALL the way without hitting the kick-down and I'll bet it never misfires again. Use the kick-down disable in the flash options or get a kick-down blocker if you can't do it with your foot.

FWIW, accel pedal should look like this for a WOT log: http://datazap.me/u/rsl/v9c-0?log=0&data=2-21

[f87king]

Originally Posted by RSL

Perfect, validated my point. This issue may be partially or completely inflicted solely by your right foot. It needs some lead in it. Accelerator should be at 100% and misfires seem to occur around 120 load.

More pedal, still never gets to 100%, but enough to get load over 160 early and you have no misfire and good AFRs. Bank 1 is a little wobbly on AFR, but may straighten out once you get a true full-pedal pull.
http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/no-mi...a=2-3-18-22-25

Never goes over 55% pedal and creeps up to 120 load = misfire.
http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/misfi...-25&zoom=13-41

If you're going to continue to accelerate like that, you may just need a tune that accommodates it, otherwise, get into 3rd gear 2500rpm and put the pedal ALL the way without hitting the kick-down and I'll bet it never misfires again. Use the kick-down disable in the flash options or get a kick-down blocker if you can't do it with your foot.

FWIW, accel pedal should look like this for a WOT log: http://datazap.me/u/rsl/v9c-0?log=0&data=2-21

You know your shit I just don't want to fuck anything up so I ease into it tomorrow I will put it to the ground along with disabling linear throttle map and see what happens.

[RSL]

Yeah, you do want to be careful, which is why I said do an actual 100% pedal pull 2500-4000 first and check the logs. If everything looks good, do 2500-5500. If everything still looks good, can try a 2500-5500 or 6000 + shift into 4th.

It's more the way the tuning is done really than it is your driving. Most people aren't going to be at 5000rpm at part-pedal, so tunes don't really focus on that area much. Going to stock throttle isn't necessary if you don't like it, just make sure get to 100% pedal as quickly as possible for WOT logs. Returning to stock throttle will definitely request more load at less pedal and may also alleviate the issue still using the roll-in pedal thing.

If this does in fact resolve the issue, you may or may not still have issues on the E60 map, so you'll want to ease back into that as well with the same process. 100% pedal 2500-4000, check the logs, 2500-5500 if OK, etc.

Fingers crossed this resolves the issue, you got a freshened up ignition and all will be well.

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Originally Posted by RSL

Yeah, you do want to be careful, which is why I said do an actual 100% pedal pull 2500-4000 first and check the logs. If everything looks good, do 2500-5500. If everything still looks good, can try a 2500-5500 or 6000 + shift into 4th.

It's more the way the tuning is done really than it is your driving. Most people aren't going to be at 5000rpm at part-pedal, so tunes don't really focus on that area much. Going to stock throttle isn't necessary if you don't like it, just make sure get to 100% pedal as quickly as possible for WOT logs. Returning to stock throttle will definitely request more load at less pedal and may also alleviate the issue still using the roll-in pedal thing.

If this does in fact resolve the issue, you may or may not still have issues on the E60 map, so you'll want to ease back into that as well with the same process. 100% pedal 2500-4000, check the logs, 2500-5500 if OK, etc.

Fingers crossed this resolves the issue, you got a freshened up ignition and all will be well.

Foot to the ground dechecked linear throttle and misfire. LPFP is at 80 when off the throttle and afrs at 235 when coasting

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Originally Posted by RSL

Yeah, you do want to be careful, which is why I said do an actual 100% pedal pull 2500-4000 first and check the logs. If everything looks good, do 2500-5500. If everything still looks good, can try a 2500-5500 or 6000 + shift into 4th.

It's more the way the tuning is done really than it is your driving. Most people aren't going to be at 5000rpm at part-pedal, so tunes don't really focus on that area much. Going to stock throttle isn't necessary if you don't like it, just make sure get to 100% pedal as quickly as possible for WOT logs. Returning to stock throttle will definitely request more load at less pedal and may also alleviate the issue still using the roll-in pedal thing.

If this does in fact resolve the issue, you may or may not still have issues on the E60 map, so you'll want to ease back into that as well with the same process. 100% pedal 2500-4000, check the logs, 2500-5500 if OK, etc.

Fingers crossed this resolves the issue, you got a freshened up ignition and all will be well.

Got this log it didn't misfire but was pulsing or almost wanting to misfire. Noticed when the car warms up its less likely to misfire it is running amazing rn under 3500 probs all the stuff I've changed http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/didnt...re-was-pulsing

[RSL]

Definitely looks better, but still some odd behavior on cyl 1 and AFR/trims.

http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/didnt-misfire-was-pulsing?log=0&data=3-16-17-22-23-24-26&zoom=5-41

Bank 1 AFR is still trying to go lean then coming back, up to a point. That's probably the pulsing that you're feeling. Cyl 1 also has 2 odd timing corrections. Trims between banks have a huge deviation up top, bank 1 doesn't trim up like 2 and bank 1 stays lean because of it. You might have an actual O2 sensor issue on the front bank. Still no codes?

If you haven't yet, reset all lambda and fuel adaptations. Keep your pulls 4000-4500rpm max until bank 1 gets in check. It's pretty lean at 4750 already. Might even consider a Stage 1 or 0 OTS just to drop the boost while testing.

[f87king]

Originally Posted by RSL

Definitely looks better, but still some odd behavior on cyl 1 and AFR/trims.

http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/didnt-misfire-was-pulsing?log=0&data=3-16-17-22-23-24-26&zoom=5-41

Bank 1 AFR is still trying to go lean then coming back, up to a point. That's probably the pulsing that you're feeling. Cyl 1 also has 2 odd timing corrections. Trims between banks have a huge deviation up top, bank 1 doesn't trim up like 2 and bank 1 stays lean because of it. You might have an actual O2 sensor issue on the front bank. Still no codes?

If you haven't yet, reset all lambda and fuel adaptations. Keep your pulls 4000-4500rpm max until bank 1 gets in check. It's pretty lean at 4750 already. Might even consider a Stage 1 or 0 OTS just to drop the boost while testing.

Okay I'll get new o2s then I reset adaptations w INPA yesterday

[RSL]

Try the adaptations first, could be anything right now.

[f87king]

Originally Posted by RSL

Try the adaptations first, could be anything right now.

New bosch plugs in afrs back up fixed issue so far gonna change back to e60 map http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/new-p...lo=6&mark=4-22 #fuckngk

[RSL]

I wouldn't. AFRs are nailed to 14.7:1, 0 trims and massive timing/torque pulls on shifts. I've never seen pulls like that. Plugs might've been fuel fouled, so misses might be cleared up, but you definitely still have an issue with sensors or DME mode.

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Originally Posted by RSL

I wouldn't. AFRs are nailed to 14.7:1, 0 trims and massive timing/torque pulls on shifts. I've never seen pulls like that. Plugs might've been fuel fouled, so misses might be cleared up, but you definitely still have an issue with sensors or DME mode.

Plugs weren't torqued all the way down where should AFRS be? On the next pull with plugs torqued it was between 12-13.5 afr

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Originally Posted by RSL

I wouldn't. AFRs are nailed to 14.7:1, 0 trims and massive timing/torque pulls on shifts. I've never seen pulls like that. Plugs might've been fuel fouled, so misses might be cleared up, but you definitely still have an issue with sensors or DME mode.

http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/log check this one

[RSL]

The log isn't loading, just stuck on the splash screen.

AFR definitely shouldn't ever be 14.7:1 (stoich) for boost, maybe during spool, but not a fan of it. Mid-12:1 is probably OK, depends where and what the log looks like. Proper AFR depends on mods, tuning, fuel, environment, etc., but generally want a margin of safety (richer) until things get dialed in.

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Originally Posted by RSL

The log isn't loading, just stuck on the splash screen.

AFR definitely shouldn't ever be 14.7:1 (stoich) for boost, maybe during spool, but not a fan of it. Mid-12:1 is probably OK, depends where and what the log looks like. Proper AFR depends on mods, tuning, fuel, environment, etc., but generally want a margin of safety (richer) until things get dialed in.

http://datazap.me/u/tomhondros/log3?log=0&data=3-22 updated this one will work

[RSL]

That looks better. Still some bouncing in AFRs between bank 1 & 2, but it's trimming and getting both up into the 11s >5000rpm. Make sure you get 100% pedal quickly and try a 3rd gear to confirm everything is still cool.

[f87king]

Originally Posted by RSL

That looks better. Still some bouncing in AFRs between bank 1 & 2, but it's trimming and getting both up into the 11s >5000rpm. Make sure you get 100% pedal quickly and try a 3rd gear to confirm everything is still cool.

Gonna get a third gear soon. Timing is flatlining post shift. I have a JPworks 6266 kit in my garage help me fix this haha I got you on a paypal gift or something

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Originally Posted by RSL

That looks better. Still some bouncing in AFRs between bank 1 & 2, but it's trimming and getting both up into the 11s >5000rpm. Make sure you get 100% pedal quickly and try a 3rd gear to confirm everything is still cool.

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