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      01-02-2009, 01:55 PM   #45
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awesome vid! with only 1000$ bucks the 335i can keep up in a straight line with the M3.
pretty impressive.
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      01-02-2009, 04:15 PM   #46
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Where is that M3 owner that runs his mouth now...
Oh wait this M3 didnt have DCT did it? lol
He's not around anymore.
All the BS he was spouting out got him banned.

Oh, and whomever suggested he was on race gas, that's not needed to beat the stock M3 in a straight line, no matter how much people try to spin that story.
Plus, I'm still wondering if the M3 had a passenger like the 335i did.
If not the M3 would of gotten beat even worse had he.

Stock M3's trap around 112-113 mph.

JB3 car on 91 octane will do that, and especially on 93.
Remember the old tunes PROcede v1.47 and JB2 would trap 109-110.
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      01-02-2009, 05:20 PM   #47
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He's not around anymore.
All the BS he was spouting out got him banned.

Oh, and whomever suggested he was on race gas, that's not needed to beat the stock M3 in a straight line, no matter how much people try to spin that story.
Plus, I'm still wondering if the M3 had a passenger like the 335i did.
If not the M3 would of gotten beat even worse had he.

Stock M3's trap around 112-113 mph.

JB3 car on 91 octane will do that, and especially on 93.
Remember the old tunes PROcede v1.47 and JB2 would trap 109-110.

Are you talking about sticky?
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I'm sure some of you have perused the suspension/brakes discussion on here. For those of you that have, the differences in suspension between the 335 and M3 are not that dramatic. Take a few pieces from the M3 parts catalog and swap them with our 335 parts, put some different brakes on the 335, swap out for a good coilover system, and slap on a tune, and you're handling like the M3, going faster than an M3 in a straight line, and did I mention you weigh less because of your I6?

Brakes: 2500 (roughly)
M3 parts swap: 400 + 600 labor = 1000
Coilovers: 1500
Tune: 600-1000

Total: 6k (could really be only 3.5k if you didnt want the brakes...but to "complete" the package I guess)

And the only thing you wont have are the flared fenders, and the giant boner from owning an M
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Are you talking about sticky?

Yes
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      01-02-2009, 06:19 PM   #50
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I'm with the others.
There's nothing like an M3 but the tuned 335i is one hell of a monster.
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Thats great that the M3 is a better track machine, but I don't drive on the track but maayybe twice a year. Other than that, I'll take the car thats faster in real life 99% of the time, with better fuel economy to boot. With the money I saved, I'll buy an Evo 9 and with light mods make 400 whp with the stock turbo and toast the M3 around the track also. YMMV.
Ah, I assume you drive 0-80 in 6 sec on every intersection...
Grow up.
M and non-M should not be compared, period.
You can tume a Neon and beat an M, so what...
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Ah, I assume you drive 0-80 in 6 sec on every intersection...
Grow up.
M and non-M should not be compared, period.
You can tume a Neon and beat an M, so what...
Smoking a New M3 and the owner asking me WTF, i thought my car was faster? its all wroth it and YES it does matter.

80% of M3 drivers try to race me on the street, they dont ask me to take it to the track.
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      01-02-2009, 07:13 PM   #54
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Sticky got banned?
yep, he talks to much shit I guess
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Smoking a New M3 and the owner asking me WTF, i thought my car was faster? its all wroth it and YES it does matter.

80% of M3 drivers try to race me on the street, they dont ask me to take it to the track.
I simply don't believe you that 80% of M3 drivers out there try to race you...
I would believe if you said 80% of EVO or Neaon drivers, but M, I don't...

Again, a tuned NEON could smoke your 2.5x priced 335, but I would take 318i over that Neon any day.
M and non-M should not be compared...
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M3 is an M3. Personally I would wait till the M is FI to make it worth the extra money.
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nice !! looks like you own the m3
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      01-03-2009, 10:39 AM   #58
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What I don't get is why people come on a thread and say things like, "yeah but the M3 is still a better car" and "you should not compare a modded 335i to a stock M3" or "big deal a modded SRT-4 can beat a 335i" or similiar comments like that.

NOBODY is disputing that the M3 is an overall better car because of it's M heritage and the extra performance, handling and braking equipment that is put into an M to make it a M car!
And NOBODY is disputing that another modded car (like the SRT-4 with a turbo kit, etc) can't beat a 335i.

The SOLE point of the thread and video was to show that a lightly modded 335i pulled away from a stock M3 (and possibly did it with an additional passenger on board too).

It is PERFECTLY ok to post that.
Their are no rules of racing.
That's like saying if he posted a video of a tuned 335i beating a Ferrari F430 in the straight line that somehow that is wrong. Why is that wrong? And only if you are Capt. Obvious do you need to post, "yeah but I'd still take the Ferrari anyday" or "but the Ferrari would beat it on a track."

There are NO rules about two car needing to be in the same price category in order to do some rolling runs. There are no rules that state the winning car in a rolling run needs to be the better car overall.

The M3 got beat by a lightly modded 335i in a straight line. That's it.
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I simply don't believe you that 80% of M3 drivers out there try to race you...
I would believe if you said 80% of EVO or Neaon drivers, but M, I don't...

Again, a tuned NEON could smoke your 2.5x priced 335, but I would take 318i over that Neon any day.
M and non-M should not be compared...
Yup, about 80% of the time an M3 is anywhere around 5 cars close to me going in the same direction they are looking for a race. Maybe its the young kids who dads buy them their cars since i live in NY or just that M3 drivers are agressive drives and over confident, not sure. But trust me, usually when a M3 is driving next to me, they are not looking just to get to work, but to have a little fun.

On another note, comparing a Neon, a sti, evo and such isn't even a comparison.

We are comparing cars that are more closely related in style, luxury and refinement. To come out the dealership with a 335i and just adding a JB3 for 700 bucks and walking a E9X M3 while still have a great looking car, luxury, quality and a BMW overall is amazing.
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Yup, about 80% of the time an M3 is anywhere around 5 cars close to me going in the same direction they are looking for a race. Maybe its the young kids who dads buy them their cars since i live in NY or just that M3 drivers are agressive drives and over confident, not sure. But trust me, usually when a M3 is driving next to me, they are not looking just to get to work, but to have a little fun.

On another note, comparing a Neon, a sti, evo and such isn't even a comparison.

We are comparing cars that are more closely related in style, luxury and refinement. To come out the dealership with a 335i and just and adding a JB3 for 700 bucks and walking a E9X M3 while still have a great looking car, luxury, quality and a BMW overall is amazing.
u can get a pinout JB3 for $350
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What I don't get is why people come on a thread and say things like, "yeah but the M3 is still a better car" and "you should not compare a modded 335i to a stock M3" or "big deal a modded SRT-4 can beat a 335i" or similiar comments like that.

NOBODY is disputing that the M3 is an overall better car because of it's M heritage and the extra performance, handling and braking equipment that is put into an M to make it a M car!
And NOBODY is disputing that another modded car (like the SRT-4 with a turbo kit, etc) can't beat a 335i.

The SOLE point of the thread and video was to show that a lightly modded 335i pulled away from a stock M3 (and possibly did it with an additional passenger on board too).

It is PERFECTLY ok to post that.
Their are no rules of racing.
That's like saying if he posted a video of a tuned 335i beating a Ferrari F430 in the straight line that somehow that is wrong. Why is that wrong? And only if you are Capt. Obvious do you need to post, "yeah but I'd still take the Ferrari anyday" or "but the Ferrari would beat it on a track."

There are NO rules about two car needing to be in the same price category in order to do some rolling runs. There are no rules that state the winning car in a rolling run needs to be the better car overall.

The M3 got beat by a lightly modded 335i in a straight line. That's it.
Very well put
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Awsome Vid.

Jeez i thought we werent gonna argue about 335 vs m3 anymore ... If you got something to say Just POST a Video (like the OP) and thats that

oh and i also liked POST #58 ..... Driver72
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What I don't get is why people come on a thread and say things like, "yeah but the M3 is still a better car" and "you should not compare a modded 335i to a stock M3" or "big deal a modded SRT-4 can beat a 335i" or similiar comments like that.

NOBODY is disputing that the M3 is an overall better car because of it's M heritage and the extra performance, handling and braking equipment that is put into an M to make it a M car!
And NOBODY is disputing that another modded car (like the SRT-4 with a turbo kit, etc) can't beat a 335i.

The SOLE point of the thread and video was to show that a lightly modded 335i pulled away from a stock M3 (and possibly did it with an additional passenger on board too).

It is PERFECTLY ok to post that.
Their are no rules of racing.
That's like saying if he posted a video of a tuned 335i beating a Ferrari F430 in the straight line that somehow that is wrong. Why is that wrong? And only if you are Capt. Obvious do you need to post, "yeah but I'd still take the Ferrari anyday" or "but the Ferrari would beat it on a track."

There are NO rules about two car needing to be in the same price category in order to do some rolling runs. There are no rules that state the winning car in a rolling run needs to be the better car overall.

The M3 got beat by a lightly modded 335i in a straight line. That's it.
agreed. however, it seemed like your post was directing toward M3 owners' bruised egos, and completely ignoring 335 owners' inflated egos.

anyway, not this shit AGAIN!
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Thanks for sharing op....nice and clear video...

BTW, care tp share info about what type of intercooler, number of people in each car, etc..please
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+1... maybe at the drag strip a JB3 335i is superior... on a big track an M3 is much more capable (bigger, vented brakes, better suspension, LSD, etc.).
When is how a car performs on a track ever relevant to daily driving. Straight line speed is probably the only useful thing, i.e., passing a tractor trailer. So you can't say the M3 is superior in the context of daily driving.
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agreed. however, it seemed like your post was directing toward M3 owners' bruised egos, and completely ignoring 335 owners' inflated egos.

anyway, not this shit AGAIN!
Wasn't directing it toward the owners of ANY particular car.
It's just all too often whenever someone posts a video of a lesser car beating a more expensive (or better car) people always say, "who cares, I'd still rather have the more expensive car.

Well, most of the time, who wouldn't. That's not the point.
A heavily modded SRT-4 can beat a modded 335i, but ask the owner of the SRT-4 if he'd give up his car if he could take the 335i and 99% or more of them would say "heck yes".

The point is not "which car is better" or "which car would you rather have" it's simply, "hey look what car I beat in an acceleration run with just x mod(s) on my car."

Don't you think an M3 driver would be happy if they beat an M6 with a mod or two on their car? Sure doesn't mean the M3 driver thinks his car is better than an M6
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