[Bomis]

well on the site it says stainless steel.... *LOL*

[ianthegreat]

oh boy just what I wanted to do, remove my downpipes every month ;]

[Kevin@AKMotorwerk]

Originally Posted by ianthegreat

oh boy just what I wanted to do, remove my downpipes every month ;]

it makes you real intimate with your car, its a bonding moment

[klipseracer]

Read the bit at the bottom:

Winning professional FIA & NARA and SSCA rallies worldwide and organizing illegal races was my passion.

I think he blew the welds on his 'Downpipe' manifolds haha.

[Vince@ V K Motorwerks]

Winning professional FIA & NARA and SSCA rallies worldwide and organizing illegal races was my passion.

Thats because its this guy:

[rollyn2night]

holy crap, $200 dp's ..Is the economy really that bad..lol..Im pretty sure someone can do a BARGAIN setup for their car:

$200 dps
$400 intercooler
$100 bms dci
$300 for a pinout jb3

$1000 ttl..pretty good hp to $$ ratio

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Donald-335i

u get what u pay for............

+1. Get the Macht Schnell or AR pieces if you're serious about performance.

[Donald-335i]

just got off the phone with one of my installers and he said he just did some china $200 knock off dp's on a 135i and he said fitment was better than the rissracing version!! guessing these are them! the guy picked up 17rwhp !!

someone buy these and give us a good review!

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Donald-335i

he also said a pipe is a pipe lol

Dynos are proving otherwise, he may want to stick to just installing parts.

Got your PM, will be replying soon.

[klipseracer]

Originally Posted by Donald-335i

just got off the phone with one of my installers and he said he just did some china $200 knock off dp's on a 135i and he said fitment was better than the rissracing version!! guessing these are them! the guy picked up 17rwhp !!

someone buy these and give us a good review!

The reality is there is quality in the pipes sold here for the most part. There is no reason to believe the quality of these 200$ pipes are terrible and not worth the investment depending on your needs. Not until someone tries them. Until then, no one will know...

[ragingclue]

I won't pay less than $4k for downpipes. After all, this isn't a Honda. BMW's are the best cars ever made and if you can't afford $4k for downpipes, sell your car and get a pedal bike.

pfft.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

I won't pay less than $4k for downpipes. After all, this isn't a Honda. BMW's are the best cars ever made and if you can't afford $4k for downpipes, sell your car and get a pedal bike.

pfft.

Agree to a certain point.

Keep in mind that most eBay companies are interested in simply moving numbers, offering a subpar product at a cheap price. Offer it cheap enough and people will assume that they got what they paid for (settling for quality vs. price). However, there are catless downpipes over the $3K mark on the market.

eBay companies typically will not provide any (or little) technical support. It's quanity over quality.

Its best to stick with reputible brands like here on the forums, in which trusted vendors take the time to anwser questions and make sure you're fully aware of what you're getting before purchasing.

[BaLLzZz]

^^^ He was joking HAHAHHA

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Agree to a certain point.

Keep in mind that most eBay companies are interested in simply moving numbers, offering a subpar product at a cheap price. Offer it cheap enough and people will assume that they got what they paid for (settling for quality vs. price). However, there are catless downpipes over the $3K mark on the market.

eBay companies typically will not provide any (or little) technical support. It's quanity over quality.

Its best to stick with reputible brands like here on the forums, in which trusted vendors take the time to anwser questions and make sure you're fully aware of what you're getting before purchasing.

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by ragingclue

I won't pay less than $4k for downpipes. After all, this isn't a Honda. BMW's are the best cars ever made and if you can't afford $4k for downpipes, sell your car and get a pedal bike.

pfft.

+1

Just cause you bought a 50k car doesn't mean everyone is frivilous with their money. A large percentage of people who have large bank accounts usually keep their bank accounts large by bargain hunting.

Its a pipe people!

[BavarianBullet]

Personally I wouldn't put these $200 pipes on my $45k car. Did you guys click on the link and check them out? There are some rather pathetic transitions within the pipe sections, especially from the 1st to 2nd right after the turbo! It looks like a shop class welding project.

$600-$700 for real N54 downpipes is not expensive considering there are 2 of them, using complex bends and lots of welding plus a pair of machined flanges.

I'm sure if AR etc were blowing 100 sets a week out the door the price would come down a bit too. We're not driving civics.

[D.yi]

Originally Posted by RambleJ

+1

Just cause you bought a 50k car doesn't mean everyone is frivilous with their money. A large percentage of people who have large bank accounts usually keep their bank accounts large by bargain hunting.

Its a pipe people!

just as the other guy said...
HE WAS JOKING LOL

[Icyhot85]

Originally Posted by D.yi

just as the other guy said...
HE WAS JOKING LOL

Wow i can't believe we even have to say that... Obviously because everyone buy $4000 Dp's

[RambleJ]

Originally Posted by D.yi

just as the other guy said...
HE WAS JOKING LOL

I knew he was joking hence the verbage in my post.

[BOOSTED4DR]

Ive gotten alot of exhaust on crazy deals like this from Ebay on many past modded cars Ive owned. It has been very positive for me and no problems. I do understand what some of the members say as far as cheap like the horrible intercooler for $399 that I agree. But lots of the exhaust deals are pretty good with good welds and so forth...Just my OP for $199 WTH give it a try..

[D.yi]

read your post wrong excuse the remark

[ianthegreat]

Just FYI. We buy pipe from mills in China (large OD 26"+).. because, well we can get it cheaper due to labor. How is the quality compared to US Steel? Almost the exact same. 90% of oil companies use Chinese steel these days.

You want my honest opinion? I highly doubt anything is wrong with these pipes and they are priced w/ a lower margin moving larger quantities.

However, the vendors here pay money for this audience, provide us w/ group buys, and generally go out of their way to support us. Customer service goes a long way in business. Because of this my money stays w/ companies on these forums.

[cn555ic]

Just checked out their website and they seem to be legit in everyway, but the prices they are charging for everything is ridiculously low, and that makes it seem like its kind of shady...I wish someone would have the balls to give them a try...The most that can happen is having to take it out and reinstall it again...If I knew how to install DPs like it was nothing, I think I would take a chance at these, but when I do get my DPs, I am getting them installed....someone who is really experienced with DPs should give it a try.