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      04-13-2016, 09:55 PM   #45
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I'm heading out to buy t6, switching from castrol 0w 40 ll01, will let yall know
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      04-14-2016, 08:52 PM   #46
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I know I know, another oil thread, but I swear, I 'd and didn't find what I am looking for...here goes

Shell Rotella T6, It's fully synthetic, and I have heard nothing but good stuff and people recommending them. It's either this or Valvoline SynPower 5w-30, those 5L walmart jugs....But i'm very curious about this oil, hype or not.

Yes, it isn't LL01, it's a diesel oil...blah blah blah...I know I know and I'm sure lot's of people know.

lots of 600RR bikers swear by it, i'm planning to use it on mine. Bob is the oil guy forums have people loving this. So...

Have you guys ever use it and what are your opinions???
I have used it. It's fine. Sorta on the fence about it. Talked to an oil expert about.
I think its fine but there are better oil around the same price range.
I go for Walmart special 5 qt jugs.

I like penzoil ultra syn or Quaker state ultimate durability syn which is cheaper

Penzoil owns Quaker state. So I think the formulations
Are very similar.
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      05-30-2016, 04:12 PM   #47
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I use this oil for a couple reasons:
  • It has been a top performer in several categories in many private oil performance comparisons I have seen and regularly used in turbo applications. My UOA confirms this.
  • Its a true PAO base synthetic oil
  • It contains more ZDDP (one of the best anti wear agents) than found in oils only intended for gasoline only applications (for emissions reasons)
  • Low ash and other formulations that help with things common to N54 and many diesel applications (DI/ carbon deposits and turbo)
  • While not certified to the LL-01 spec, it exceeds every specification that make up the LL-01 spec as far as I can tell
  • It's easy to find and relatively inexpensive compared to Mobil, Shell etc.


It terms of the standards, Anyone can look these up:

BMW LL-01 5W-30 meets:
API: SL/CF
ACEA: A3/B3 (longlife, extended drain intervals)

Rotella 5W-40 meets:
API: SM (exceeds SL/CF, safe for cat conv., approved for gasoline engines)
API: CJ-4, CI-4 Plus, CH-4, CG-4, CF-4, CF, SM, SL, SJ, SH
ACEA: E9 (longlife, extended drain intervals for diesel engines)

HERE IS MY ~8000 MI BLACKSTONE LAB UOA:


Can't argue with that kind of performance!! OK to close the thread now??
Reviving an OLD thread... any new Blackstone reports you can post up on how your car has been doing with this oil? I'm thinking about starting to use it.
With these requests, will plan on a new test at my next change in about 2k miles to post. Have doubled the milage on the car since I posted the last result with the same OCI. Have money on result being very similar. Time for a new car soon though....
So... Sold the car before getting that last oil change in. Asked the new owner to do a Blackstone test. Will see if he does.
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      06-08-2016, 09:31 PM   #48
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Just wanted to say I use this on my fathers x5 that has 270k. Owned it since new in 2003. I use this oil on my e36 m3 S52 as well. Use it in my mothers e46 with 150k. This oil is great with the M54 engines. I don't use it on my e90 since it's low mileage and always dealer maintained
My 206,000+ miles E46 has been running fantastic on T6 (been using it for around 100,00 miles or more). Lab reports always come back spotless and the car uses only a few ounces of oil between changes.

I asked a tribologist about T6 for BMWs and he said it was a very good oil and preferred it over the factory recommended Castrol at the time (which he did not speak very highly of).
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      06-09-2016, 11:02 PM   #49
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Running T6 since 2009/2010
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-e36 325i with 190k - totaled in 2012
-e46 323i with 230k - sold in 2016
-e90 335i with 80k - owned since 2013 - about 50k on T6
-VW 2.0t with 130k - owned since 2007 - about 70k on T6
For the purpose of the thread: I will consider other BMW "approved" oil only if it's in the same price range as T6 or given to me for free.
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I just switched to SHELL ROTELLA T6 5W-40 after running CASTROL SYNTEC EF 0W-40 for 6000 miles. As soon as i started up the car i noticed a drastic improvement in idle smoothness, and smoother sounding exhaust. the castrol syntec looked all soupy and dark coming out. This is a diesel truck oil that's tough as hell and has a stiff detergent package to keep engines clean. I heard people getting good results with this oil in nearly anything it's put in and at 20 bucks a gallon you can't lose.

plus this is one of the few oils that explicitly advertise a high temp duty specification on the label, so i don't have to mind the temp during those spirited moments when my oil is around 260-70.
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this is really good stuff.. highly recommend it.
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So... Sold the car before getting that last oil change in. Asked the new owner to do a Blackstone test. Will see if he does.
Any word on if the new owner completed the BS analysis?
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So... Sold the car before getting that last oil change in. Asked the new owner to do a Blackstone test. Will see if he does.
Any word on if the new owner completed the BS analysis?
Asked once as a follow up, but he never got back to me....
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Kicking up an old thread.....anyone else use Rotella 5w-40 in their N54 powered car? I run it in my diesel truck, ATVs, and bikes,....and all of my Blackstone reports come back great.

Thinking about running it in my 335i. It's easy to find, fully synthetic, and 5w-40.......any issues with running it in an N54?
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Kicking up an old thread.....anyone else use Rotella 5w-40 in their N54 powered car? I run it in my diesel truck, ATVs, and bikes,....and all of my Blackstone reports come back great.

Thinking about running it in my 335i. It's easy to find, fully synthetic, and 5w-40.......any issues with running it in an N54?
I ran it in my old E90 M3. I have a thread about it if you want to take a look. There are probably a decent amount of folks who do run the T6 in their N54
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Kicking up an old thread.....anyone else use Rotella 5w-40 in their N54 powered car? I run it in my diesel truck, ATVs, and bikes,....and all of my Blackstone reports come back great.

Thinking about running it in my 335i. It's easy to find, fully synthetic, and 5w-40.......any issues with running it in an N54?
As long as you change it more often than the nominal 15K (or computer-recommended) interval.

I personally don't know why people believe that "my oil" is better than what BMW recommends. T6 is an ACEA E3 truck oil. But it matches ACEA A3/B3-4 so why not?
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As long as you change it more often than the nominal 15K (or computer-recommended) interval.

I personally don't know why people believe that "my oil" is better than what BMW recommends. T6 is an ACEA E3 truck oil. But it matches ACEA A3/B3-4 so why not?
Yeah, definitely not going 15k miles between changes. I figure 5k intervals is more than good.....right?
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Yeah, definitely not going 15k miles between changes. I figure 5k intervals is more than good.....right?
I think you'd be ok at 7.5K miles, 10K is probably a push.

There's discussion on T6 in the diesel sub-forum, as it's a low-saps alternative that many diesel guys have used. The E90 diesel sub-forum has even more discussion of it.
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Most of the posts here are three years old, with a few recent additions. But I'll post a comment anyway.

I'm very familiar with the Rotella oils and have used them extensively in my motorcycles. In my case I've used the T4, long before it had the JASO MA cert for motorcycles, but the latest addition of the JASO MA cert makes me feel even better now!

These diesel oils (Rotella) typically have a lot of zinc, which can allegedly damage catalytic converters. In my case where my car consumes a lot of oil, I don't want to take that risk so I've avoided it.

However not too long ago Shell released a "Rotella Gas Truck Full Synthetic" which is cheap, around $22 for 5 quarts, similar to the Rotella T6. It's marketed toward trucks and SUVs, but there's nothing magical about oil that makes it different for a truck or car, so I decided to try it in my N52. So far so good.

There are rumors that this is very similar to Pennzoil Platinum (another excellent oil, also made by Shell) if not identical, however it's not clear why Shell is marketing it as a truck oil.

All I know for sure is that it's a few bucks cheaper and I'm pretty confident it's a quality oil.
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I've been running Rotella T6 for a while....works great! I've been doing some research....and it sounds like Chevron Delo 400 5w-40 Synthetic might be a better oil......anyone tried it in their N54? I've ran it in my diesel truck for the last few years and the oil reports from Blackstone come back looks fantastic! It's about the same price as the T6.
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Been using T6 for years. It's popular in the high-HP modded cars (GTR's, 4G63's, Subaru's, N54's, Honda K's, etc) for a reason.

My oil temps were lower (by 10-15F) w/ T6 in my N54's over anything else, in Arizona, in summer, w/ no oil cooler.
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I'll be starting to use T6 as well in my e92 N55. Reason being cheaper cost with on par type of quality.
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T6 is good oil.....
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you can use the correct oil for not much more. the high zinc is not worth the trade off since these run much hotter than diesel

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1

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you can use the correct oil for not much more. the high zinc is not worth the trade off since these run much hotter than diesel

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
My Blackstone oil Labs reports always come back looking great...both T6 diesel and Mobil1 Euro both come back looking same. Both are very good oils. I would use whatever you can get cheaper.
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you can use the correct oil for not much more. the high zinc is not worth the trade off since these run much hotter than diesel

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...e?ie=UTF8&th=1
I would use that too next time if the price is going to be similar. Saved to my list.
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