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      09-22-2011, 08:58 AM   #45
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Ok you're right.
I was launching from Empire State Building and ... hey! I got a log.
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Ok you're right.
I was launching from Empire State Building and ... hey! I got a log.
Denial can be heart breaking.
So you hit roughly 320 stock with the correct weight and that is normal? Cute
I asked you multiple times to add graphs with the correct weight. If that doesnt make you stop and think then theres no hope for you, at that point you might as well drive off the empire state building.....get a log while your at it, ask the fbi to post it.
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Don't worry about proving anything with dynos, let's see some vids racing out there, see the real action happening
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Denial can be heart breaking.
So you hit roughly 320 stock with the correct weight and that is normal? Cute
I asked you multiple times to add graphs with the correct weight. If that doesnt make you stop and think then theres no hope for you, at that point you might as well drive off the empire state building.....get a log while your at it, ask the fbi to post it.
I am not worried about how many HP i have now or how many HP i could maybe have... The only true data is that in map0 i can run 283something and, in map1, i run 432something... If 432hp are at the engine, i'm sodisfied anyway.
It's over 52% more than stock, considering stock a 135iFBO running map0.

Let's do a game: tell me, in your hopinion, how much whp i should have @dynojet with valet map + FBO.
I'll set the correction value to have them, so that we can have a "good" comparison, right?

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Heck my 335i on stock tune runs 365whp as per virtual dyno, well i did have a 1000lbs bull in the back seat on that run which i had to add to weight..
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I am not worried about how many HP i have now or how many HP i could maybe have... The only true data is that in map0 i can run 283something and, in map1, i run 432something... If 432hp are at the engine, i'm sodisfied anyway.
It's over 52% more than stock, considering stock a 135iFBO running map0.

Let's do a game: tell me, in your hopinion, how much whp i should have @dynojet with valet map + FBO.
I'll set the correction value to have them, so that we can have a "good" comparison, right?
You should be in the 290 range on a dynojet and 400-410 at your boost level with roughly 100 octane. No need to set the correction value, just put 3600lbs in for the weight and you can see where something is inaccurate.
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You should be in the 290 range on a dynojet and 400-410 at your boost level with roughly 100 octane. No need to set the correction value, just put 3600lbs in for the weight and you can see where something is inaccurate.
I can agree with be in 290range with map0... I'm asking how you can say 400-410whp with 100octane and my boost, considering there's no one that's running 17psi on 95AKI with FBO and without meth.

BTW, in some hours (let me exit from workplace) I'll do another virtual Dyno with your lbs and applying a correction to be within 290whp.
I can expect 430whp, but we'll see.
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There are some of us running upwards of 18 psi on 93 octane FBO with Cobb.
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There are some of us running upwards of 18 psi on 93 octane FBO with Cobb.
I'm sorry, I missed to say i'm running "Ignition Correction 0" as you can see in logs... It's a lot important.
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I can agree with be in 290range with map0... I'm asking how you can say 400-410whp with 100octane and my boost, considering there's no one that's running 17psi on 95AKI with FBO and without meth.

BTW, in some hours (let me exit from workplace) I'll do another virtual Dyno with your lbs and applying a correction to be within 290whp.
I can expect 430whp, but we'll see.
Don't apply any correction, simply change the weight of the car, it will be a real eye open for you. As I told you already, it will showever over 450whp, wich is inaccurate.
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Don't apply any correction, simply change the weight of the car, it will be a real eye open for you. As I told you already, it will showever over 450whp, wich is inaccurate.
So you're supposing that the program is a fake.
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So you're supposing that the program is a fake.
No, the programs works if you use it correctly. I have seen probabaly 40-50 of these by from numerous cars, all dynoed where you would expect them too.
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There are some of us running upwards of 18 psi on 93 octane FBO with Cobb.
yeah but on low-midrange only and less ign. advance . Muccio is boosting more
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No, the programs works if you use it correctly. I have seen probabaly 40-50 of these by from numerous cars, all dynoed where you would expect them too.
So you're supposing I was downhill.. Ok.
Keep thinking that....
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I've weighed my car on a calibrated scale and it weighs 1670 kg / 3681 lbs with a full tank of gas and a 80 kg driver in it.

...and I got 433 whp with the Virtual DynoJet with 93 Octane AKI, FBO, Meth and 18 psi. (I weighed the car on the same day)
The road was completely flat and the ambient was 60F.

I'm pretty sure that 433 whp is what should be expected with my mods.


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I've weighed my car on a calibrated scale and it weighs 1670 kg / 3681 lbs with a full tank of gas and a 80 kg driver in it.

...and I got 433 whp with the Virtual DynoJet with 98 AKI, FBO, Meth and 18 psi. (I weighed the car on the same day)

I'm pretty sure that 433 whp is what should be expected with my mods.
Ok that's a good start.
135i weight 69kg less than 335i (grassroot motorsport said that).
After than add 10kg (i'm 90kg about).
After remove all fuel (I was empty, 30km autonomy): about 40lt less/29kg less.
I don't have meth pump (LOL).
Total on run = about 1580kg = 3480lbs...

My dyno was setted at 3208+200lbs of driver... So... I've declared a little less (70lbs?) that what was...

Cheers.

PS: how much IAT there was when you dyno ur 335i?? What gear did you use?? Can you post your log with IAT and all datas?? It's a lot important too.
PPS: are you sure u were running with 98AKI?? Maybe 98RON, like usa's 93AKI... I was on 95AKI/100RON.

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guys its difficult to notice a gradual slope in the road. I would test each way on same part of road and take the average. Plus wind has an effect.
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Ok that's a good start.
135i weight 69kg less than 335i (grassroot motorsport said that).
After than add 10kg (i'm 90kg about).
After remove all fuel (I was empty, 30km autonomy): about 40lt less/29kg less.
I don't have meth pump (LOL).
Total on run = about 1580kg = 3480lbs...

My dyno was setted at 3208+200lbs of driver... So... I've declared a little less (70lbs?) that what was...

Cheers.

PS: how much IAT there was when you dyno ur 335i?? What gear did you use?? Can you post your log with IAT and all datas?? It's a lot important too.
PPS: are you sure u were running with 98AKI?? Maybe 98RON, like usa's 93AKI... I was on 95AKI/100RON.
So let me get this straight. You are saying that in a lighter car (which gives lowers numbers) less boost, no meth, you dynoed the same as BIG Tom, if anything Bit tom just prooved my point, find a straight road and try again.
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So let me get this straight. You are saying that in a lighter car (which gives lowers numbers) less boost, no meth, you dynoed the same as BIG Tom, if anything Bit tom just prooved my point, find a straight road and try again.
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I'm saying that in a lighter car, with smaller tyres, with 13°C out and with a good fuel (a lot better than sweden one, enrita has tryed it) with 95AKI I can run something LIKE him with a not-even-good 93AKI with meth but only 1 psi more (maybe, we should see real logs).

I would remember you that running on (e.g.) 15psi with 89+meth with ic0, and running the same 15psi (always with ic0) with only a good fuel is really different... The second car pull really harder than first.
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Ok that's a good start.
135i weight 69kg less than 335i (grassroot motorsport said that).
After than add 10kg (i'm 90kg about).
After remove all fuel (I was empty, 30km autonomy): about 40lt less/29kg less.
I don't have meth pump (LOL).
Total on run = about 1580kg = 3480lbs...

My dyno was setted at 3208+200lbs of driver... So... I've declared a little less (70lbs?) that what was...

Cheers.

PS: how much IAT there was when you dyno ur 335i?? What gear did you use?? Can you post your log with IAT and all datas?? It's a lot important too.
PPS: are you sure u were running with 98AKI?? Maybe 98RON, like usa's 93AKI... I was on 95AKI/100RON.
Hey, as I said, enjoy the numbers...as long as you believe in them and you're happy with them that's all that matters but you really should stop trying to make others believe these as they simply are not representative of the mods and tune on your car...in any case, the point of virtual dynos/tool is NOT to compete with others on this forum and their graphs...its just a nice way to compare results, "make sense" out of them (this is the part you're missing), and most importantly see how your car responds to different mods/tunes on the road...you can sometimes get weird results out of the tool and need to know when/what caused those so you can find a better way to run next time so the tool is more "useful" than this

people should stop convincing you that your numbers don't make sense and you really should stop convincing us that these nonsense numbers make sense for the mods you've stated, its just simple as that...
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Hey, as I said, enjoy the numbers...as long as you believe in them and you're happy with them that's all that matters but you really should stop trying to make others believe these as they simply are not representative of the mods and tune on your car...in any case, the point of virtual dynos/tool is NOT to compete with others on this forum and their graphs...its just a nice way to compare results, "make sense" out of them (this is the part you're missing), and most importantly see how your car responds to different mods/tunes on the road...you can sometimes get weird results out of the tool and need to know when/what caused those so you can find a better way to run next time so the tool is more "useful" than this

people should stop convincing you that your numbers don't make sense and you really should stop convincing us that these nonsense numbers make sense for the mods you've stated, its just simple as that...
LOL dzenno, I don't have to convince anyone, i'm simply explain various possibility.
I've simply done 4 run, 2vs2, and both2by2 are pretty similar... Maybe i had favoured wind?? Sure, btw i've simply done them and imported them in VirtualDyno.
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