*OFFICIAL Chicagoland Chat Thread*

335iPaul · 04-20-2009, 11:13 PM

Ben, you ever get a chance to try to get that vinyl shipped again?

UdubBadger · 04-21-2009, 12:54 AM

I "floated" home.... weird carlos cuz my car felt like the back end was on ice skates all night too... I'm tellin you its probably the cold. under 45 degrees really stiffens up the rubber on summer tires so you don't get as much traction as you'd think.

UdubBadger · 04-21-2009, 12:55 AM

BTW I'll be at Performance getting my tune done w/ Tony at 10am if anyone wants to come down... I'm not stopping to pick anyone up this time though.

Nebster · 04-21-2009, 07:37 AM

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=225

almost sold me with that post

CubanJJ09 · 04-21-2009, 08:18 AM

how could he have possibly gotten a set already? they didn't start sellng till yesterday afternoon. and I have yet to see what the actual unit looks like

Nebster · 04-21-2009, 08:41 AM

he is local to the vendor and it looks pretty good but i'll wait for some more reviews

kyleb350 · 04-21-2009, 10:12 AM

I ordered this. I'll def. post some pics. Install looks like a b*tch compared to just swapping the bulbs

Kruz · 04-21-2009, 10:27 AM

All this summer/winter tire talk has me thinking this may be my next set. While I love the PS2s, I could rock these all year round and ditch the winter setup. They are speed rated identically yet the A/S has a 45,000mi warranty. With AWD I think I could handle 90% of the worse winter has to offer with the A/S. Thoughts?

Anyone interested in the wheel and tiresets in my sig? Paul?

ragingclue · 04-21-2009, 10:38 AM

I agree that you should be ok with GOOD all-season tires as long as you're really careful when driving in snow and ice. All-seasons with AWD isn't a horrible idea like a lot of people paint it out to be; most of the gripes with all-seasons is that people who use them think they're golden, which they aren't. Biggest issue is misjudgement of braking distance.

EDIT:
I would still feel better with a winter set and summer set, as you're not compromising during either period. With all-seasons, you are compromising year-round.

CubanJJ09 · 04-21-2009, 11:14 AM

id feel comfortable having a/s with an x.

UdubBadger · 04-21-2009, 11:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

id feel comfortable having a/s with an x.

I'll tell you guys though... U don't buy winter tires for startup in snow, it's more for handling but mostly for stopping. Xi's will bulldoze through the tuff stuff and handle well in deep snow for the most part but when it comes to stopping you'll want some good winter rubber underneath. I'll take rwd with winters over awd with a/s any day. Winter rubber is designed to be softer compound so it sticks in sub 40 degree weather... All seasons are only effective to about 30 degrees until becoming as useless as summer tires

Kruz · 04-21-2009, 11:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

All seasons are only effective to about 30 degrees until becoming as useless as summer tires

Where are you deriving that statement from?

CubanJJ09 · 04-21-2009, 11:58 AM

I'd agree Id would rather have winters but in johns case a/s are ok if your careful. but a/s are still better than summer under 30 degrees cause of the tread. I got stuck on a qtr inch ice mound in a parking spot cause the thread was packed with snow. I kept the car in reverse and got out to see the tire just spinning in place. I pretty much knew I need winters after that.

Kruz · 04-21-2009, 02:11 PM

Im just spitballin here anyways. My PS2s are new and will last until my next car. Speaking of which, Ive been mulling the idea of trading the 335 for a couple year old Elise and a beater TJ for the winter.

I miss trackdays.

UdubBadger · 04-21-2009, 02:26 PM

Tread has nothing to do with it guys... I'm talking about the rubber stiffining up when it gets colder than 45 deg for summers and a/s under 30. You can start up just fine as long as you have good tread but you won't stop for shit cuz the rubber is too hard.

Kruz · 04-21-2009, 03:58 PM

Hmmm 45 degrees seems a bit conservative....from Tirerack...

Quote:

The Pilot Sport PS2 is not intended to be driven in near-freezing temperatures, through snow or on ice.

Good info here...and using E90s to boot.
http://www.tirerack.com/videos/index...=23&tab=winter

J BONE · 04-21-2009, 04:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

Tread has nothing to do with it guys... I'm talking about the rubber stiffining up when it gets colder than 45 deg for summers and a/s under 30. You can start up just fine as long as you have good tread but you won't stop for shit cuz the rubber is too hard.

Exactly! I really don't understand why people don't get winter tires. It is totally worth it. You guys drive expensive cars, drop the money on a set of winters. I am a huge fan of having winter tires. I really think they make all the difference in the world. In the end, it probably doen not cost much more anyway because you are changing the tires out so your summer ones will last longer. Just my .02

J BONE · 04-21-2009, 05:11 PM

Waiting on the update Seth

Hope you guys were able to figure something out with Tony

kyleb350 · 04-21-2009, 05:12 PM

It's probably that those people don't want to go through that extra effort of buying and changing them out every season. After getting winters last season, I'm glad I got them.

After switching from winter to summer tires (and vice versa), you appreciate each set for their own capabilities.

J BONE · 04-21-2009, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kyleb350

It's probably that those people don't want to go through that extra effort of buying and changing them out every season. After getting winters last season, I'm glad I got them.

After switching from winter to summer tires (and vice versa), you appreciate each set for their own capabilities.

I agree. Def worth it IMO

Nebster · 04-21-2009, 05:23 PM

seth made 12 whp and 8 ft lbs of torque i believe.

Kruz · 04-21-2009, 05:45 PM

Stock or gained?

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UdubBadger Banned 672 Rep 24,685 Posts Drives: '04 330i ZHP Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (22) Garage List 2004 BMW 330i ZHP [9.50] 2011 135i [7.46] 2008 328xi [8.76]	BTW I'll be at Performance getting my tune done w/ Tony at 10am if anyone wants to come down... I'm not stopping to pick anyone up this time though.
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04-21-2009, 07:37 AM	#7286
Nebster Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,599 Posts Drives: E92 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plainfield, IL iTrader: (4)	http://www.e90post.com/forums/showpo...&postcount=225 almost sold me with that post __________________ detailing in the greater chicago area. Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website, pertaining to modifications does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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04-21-2009, 08:41 AM	#7288
Nebster Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,599 Posts Drives: E92 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plainfield, IL iTrader: (4)	he is local to the vendor and it looks pretty good but i'll wait for some more reviews __________________ detailing in the greater chicago area. Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website, pertaining to modifications does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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04-21-2009, 10:12 AM	#7289
kyleb350 Brigadier General 420 Rep 4,710 Posts Drives: '21 X3MC Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (6)	I ordered this. I'll def. post some pics. Install looks like a b*tch compared to just swapping the bulbs
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04-21-2009, 10:27 AM	#7290
Kruz Major 22 Rep 1,083 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C 6MT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (4) Garage List My garage spot [0.00] 07/07 BMW 335xi [8.50] 2001 Honda CBR600F4i [0.00] 2007 Husqvarna SM610 [0.00] 2004 Chevy Tahoe Z71 [0.00] 2005 Harley Davidso ... [0.00] 2007.9 335xi [6.50]	All this summer/winter tire talk has me thinking this may be my next set. While I love the PS2s, I could rock these all year round and ditch the winter setup. They are speed rated identically yet the A/S has a 45,000mi warranty. With AWD I think I could handle 90% of the worse winter has to offer with the A/S. Thoughts? Anyone interested in the wheel and tiresets in my sig? Paul? Attached Images __________________ 2021 BMW M2 Competition, BSM, Exec Pkg, 6MT GONE:07/07 E90 335xi SG Black Dakota\|Alum\|ZSP\|2AB\|ZPP\|ZCW\|Nav\|CA\|6FL\|PDC\| Blacklines\|3M Summers: 235/40/18 265/35/18 Hankook Ventus V12 on VMR 701s A/S: 225/40/18 255/35/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on OEM 162s
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04-21-2009, 10:38 AM	#7291
ragingclue One cam is enough 140 Rep 6,801 Posts Drives: VF Join Date: Oct 2008 Location: mulletville iTrader: (1)	I agree that you should be ok with GOOD all-season tires as long as you're really careful when driving in snow and ice. All-seasons with AWD isn't a horrible idea like a lot of people paint it out to be; most of the gripes with all-seasons is that people who use them think they're golden, which they aren't. Biggest issue is misjudgement of braking distance. EDIT: I would still feel better with a winter set and summer set, as you're not compromising during either period. With all-seasons, you are compromising year-round.
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04-21-2009, 11:14 AM	#7292
CubanJJ09 Banned 172 Rep 12,680 Posts Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [6.18]	id feel comfortable having a/s with an x.
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04-21-2009, 11:58 AM	#7295
CubanJJ09 Banned 172 Rep 12,680 Posts Drives: like an asshole Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Chicago Burbs iTrader: (2) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [6.18]	I'd agree Id would rather have winters but in johns case a/s are ok if your careful. but a/s are still better than summer under 30 degrees cause of the tread. I got stuck on a qtr inch ice mound in a parking spot cause the thread was packed with snow. I kept the car in reverse and got out to see the tire just spinning in place. I pretty much knew I need winters after that.
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04-21-2009, 02:11 PM	#7296
Kruz Major 22 Rep 1,083 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C 6MT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (4) Garage List My garage spot [0.00] 07/07 BMW 335xi [8.50] 2001 Honda CBR600F4i [0.00] 2007 Husqvarna SM610 [0.00] 2004 Chevy Tahoe Z71 [0.00] 2005 Harley Davidso ... [0.00] 2007.9 335xi [6.50]	Im just spitballin here anyways. My PS2s are new and will last until my next car. Speaking of which, Ive been mulling the idea of trading the 335 for a couple year old Elise and a beater TJ for the winter. I miss trackdays. __________________ 2021 BMW M2 Competition, BSM, Exec Pkg, 6MT GONE:07/07 E90 335xi SG Black Dakota\|Alum\|ZSP\|2AB\|ZPP\|ZCW\|Nav\|CA\|6FL\|PDC\| Blacklines\|3M Summers: 235/40/18 265/35/18 Hankook Ventus V12 on VMR 701s A/S: 225/40/18 255/35/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on OEM 162s
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kyleb350 Brigadier General 420 Rep 4,710 Posts Drives: '21 X3MC Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Milwaukee iTrader: (6)	It's probably that those people don't want to go through that extra effort of buying and changing them out every season. After getting winters last season, I'm glad I got them. After switching from winter to summer tires (and vice versa), you appreciate each set for their own capabilities.
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04-21-2009, 05:23 PM	#7303
Nebster Brigadier General 105 Rep 3,599 Posts Drives: E92 BMW 335i Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Plainfield, IL iTrader: (4)	seth made 12 whp and 8 ft lbs of torque i believe. __________________ detailing in the greater chicago area. Legal Disclaimer: Anything I or anyone else says about my vehicle on this website, pertaining to modifications does not actually represent anything actually existing on my car, and thus, cannot be held against me in any issues, i.e. warranty claims, that may arise.
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04-21-2009, 05:45 PM	#7304
Kruz Major 22 Rep 1,083 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C 6MT Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Chicagoland iTrader: (4) Garage List My garage spot [0.00] 07/07 BMW 335xi [8.50] 2001 Honda CBR600F4i [0.00] 2007 Husqvarna SM610 [0.00] 2004 Chevy Tahoe Z71 [0.00] 2005 Harley Davidso ... [0.00] 2007.9 335xi [6.50]	Stock or gained? __________________ 2021 BMW M2 Competition, BSM, Exec Pkg, 6MT GONE:07/07 E90 335xi SG Black Dakota\|Alum\|ZSP\|2AB\|ZPP\|ZCW\|Nav\|CA\|6FL\|PDC\| Blacklines\|3M Summers: 235/40/18 265/35/18 Hankook Ventus V12 on VMR 701s A/S: 225/40/18 255/35/18 Pirelli PZero Nero M+S on OEM 162s
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