[mbanck]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

My source still shows 11/20 as the SOP. Anything different from that means a marketing decision. Remember that I always had this caveat that marketing is invisible to me? This appears to be one of those situations.

Right, thanks. Could be that due to the newly introduced PHEV subsidies (at least in Germany), they consider the 330e to be selling well enough and decided to axe it.

[mammut]

Originally Posted by mbanck

Right, thanks. Could be that due to the newly introduced PHEV subsidies (at least in Germany), they consider the 330e to be selling well enough and decided to axe it.

I think we will see the 320e spec with the model updates for spring 2021, which sould be published by mid of january. Maybe they postponed it because of the battery recall.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

EOP for current models:
G20/G80 3er - 10/25 (LCI SOP 07/22)
G22/G82 4er - 06/27 (LCI SOP 03/24)
G23 4er - 10/27

Interesting.

G20 3er started production mid-October 2018. So no surprise that the 7th generation 3er gets an update (Life Cycle Impulse) mid 2022.

G80 M3: production started in November 2020 and first deliveries are scheduled to start in March 2021. So it seems that the launch version will already be replaced by an update mid 2022 (LCI start of production in July 2022).

But then again, the same happened with the F87 M2: deliveries started from April 16, 2016 onwards, LCI happened in 2017 (because of the F22 2er LCI) and production ended at the start of Summer 2018 (replaced by the M2 Competition from September 2018 onwards - moving from N55 engine to S55 engine because of tightened EU emissions regulations).

G82 M4: the launch version is expected to stay around longer, with an update early 2024 (LCI start of production in March 2024).

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Artemis

But then again, the same happened with the F87 M2:

Yep. It happened with the G80 M3 and E90 M3 also.

This is a direct consequence of the delay between the debut of a new generation product and the arrival of its M transformation. BMW has tightened up that timeline with many M vehicles, but the M2 and M3 still lag.

G82 M4: the launch version is expected to stay around longer, with an update early 2024 (LCI start of production in March 2024).

The delay between the 3 Series and 4 Series is painful for those who want the latter, but the M4 buyer benefits in that the development is shared with the M3.

If there were a G40 2 Series sedan, its quite likely that it’s M counterpart and the G87 M2 would arrive just after the release of the G42.

[Artemis]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Yep. It happened with the G80 M3 and E90 M3 also.

This is a direct consequence of the delay between the debut of a new generation product and the arrival of its M transformation. BMW has tightened up that timeline with many M vehicles, but the M2 and M3 still lag.

As the LCI will already be available in the second half of 2022, it might facilitate G80 M3 early adopters to claim that they have a first edition 'limited edition'.

Anyways, often, most LCI changes are retrofittable.

[indigo6]

Originally Posted by Game

Yeah I'd like to get an answer on this. Surprised how many customers have asked about this.

Hopefully ynguldyn can help us on this one

[Wild Blue]

Originally Posted by Wild Blue

Very interested in the G07 X7 LCI. Listed in the first post here as start of production in 8/22, for MY2023. But we're already seeing multiple LCI spyshots, so that seems quite off in the future. Could the LCI be moving up to MY2022?

Still curious about this. G07 LCI staying MY2023, or getting moved up to MY2022?

[BimmerMat135]

I wonder if the G42 M240i will be available with a manual transmission or if we’ll have to go all the way to the G87?

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by BimmerMat135

I wonder if the G42 M240i will be available with a manual transmission or if we’ll have to go all the way to the G87?

Strictly speaking we may not know for certain, but practically speaking, if BMW intended to continue with the B58 / MT combo then they’d not have limited it only to one vehicle. It’s almost surely an S58-only affair now, and at the end of the decade, it’ll be gone for good.

[V-Eight]

when the G20 LCI test mule are expected to hit the road? In order to make us see if the taillights will change?
I'm to order the M3...but if the LCI is arriving within a year...it's better to wait another year instead of buying it this spring....

[Josh-PA]

Thanks for all the posted info. Do you have any theories or inside info on what will be included in the G01 X3 LCI that is scheduled to SOP 07/21?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Josh-PA

Thanks for all the posted info. Do you have any theories or inside info on what will be included in the G01 X3 LCI that is scheduled to SOP 07/21?

Cosmetics.

[LogicalApex]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Cosmetics.

It will also be bumped up to "SP18" or later? To get RSU, etc.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

Cosmetics.

Did the G01/G02 already get the 48V B58? I was expecting that for the LCI.

Speaking of 48V, any signs of that for the B48 yet? IIRC, in the four cylinder family, only the B47 diesel has been updated with 48V to date.

[50M]

Saw the next gen iDrive to debut in the iX from CES. Seems like the iX will have it.

Any perspective on when the next gen of iDrive will get launched.

Check out the i4 dual screen set up for the next gen iDrive. Wondering if the G26 and MY 22 G20 will feature these updates?

M

[Josh-PA]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Did the G01/G02 already get the 48V B58? I was expecting that for the LCI.

Based on the BMWblog post, yes they got the 48v system for 2020:
https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/04/01/s...ies-x3-and-x4/

I was curious if the next gen I-Drive for CES would hit the G01 LCI, but I'm guessing no since it just moved to I-Drive 7

[xlover]

Originally Posted by Josh-PA

I was curious if the next gen I-Drive for CES would hit the G01 LCI, but I'm guessing no since it just moved to I-Drive 7

I would be willing to bet that LCI will upgrade the X3 from iDrive 7 "lite" to the full version which will enable driver assist pro, remote start, and digital key (amongst other things). I can't imagine BMW leaving those options off their highest volume model for much longer.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by Josh-PA

Based on the BMWblog post, yes they got the 48v system for 2020:
https://www.bmwblog.com/2020/04/01/s...ies-x3-and-x4/

That article is referring to diesel engines, not the B58.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

Did the G01/G02 already get the 48V B58? I was expecting that for the LCI.

Speaking of 48V, any signs of that for the B48 yet? IIRC, in the four cylinder family, only the B47 diesel has been updated with 48V to date.

48V will be paired with the same engines it's used today on G2x, so no news there either.

[TH868Civils]

Can’t wait for the next gen iDrive

[kaunitz]

In Italian market (but it seems also in other ones) starting from March 2021 will be available new model PHEV for 3 and 5 series: 320e and 520e born in sedan and touring version.
2.0 liter petrol engine with 163hp plus electric motor with a total combined power of 204hp

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by kaunitz

In Italian market (but it seems also in other ones) starting from March 2021 will be available new model PHEV for 3 and 5 series: 320e and 520e born in sedan and touring version.
2.0 liter petrol engine with 163hp plus electric motor with a total combined power of 204hp

Thanks for sharing that news.

Those had been reported on in the past but their original release dates came and went. Since they are not being sold in the US, they don't tend to stay on the radar. It's possible the pandemic contributed to their delay. Either way, it's good to know they are finally set to hit the market.