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      05-16-2013, 09:22 PM   #7657
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If you use the default list you should be able to add two more channels to log. So you can add STFT and LTFTs from one of the two banks but not both.
Roger that. Thanks.
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Roger that. Thanks.
How do you like having the Cobb AP and Alpina B3 TCU Flash? Are you running ST or LT maps?
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Adding E85 will most certainly not improve your gas mileage, it will make it worse. Log looks pretty good though, but like Aenema said, you should include trims and HPFP+LPFP PSI throughout the pull when running ethanol. I wish my car was providing enough fuel for the DME to pull some out, that's solid.
I'll take some new logs and include them, I think I need a V1 first though Lol

I was hoping it might go up a bit because the AZ 91 oct is so lame the car was probably not running tip top on it....

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yes it's common to get a MPG drop, especially since you just got it. you are heaver on the throttle . Once you get it out of your system you will drive more normal and your MPGs will go back up a bit. But never like stock. It's a performance tune = lower MPGs.

try getting 15 mpgs as a DD. W/ E50 (50% Ethanol), the fuel is less dense so you need more fuel, but its cheaper than 91. Its about $3.30 for E85 Pump and about $4.25 for 91. about 7.5 E85 pump gallons to 6.5 91 Pump gallons at each fill up right at "low fuel light" it works out to about the same co$t$. but more fill ups.
Yea your right I probably am a bit heavier on it , I figured it would go down some but damn a 20-25% drop, that hurts!

This is my DD and now that it's tuned I was getting like 16mpg on pure 91, the spread between E85 and 91 is far less here in AZ. It's like $3.44 for E85 and $3.94 for 91 right now. It wouldn't suck so bad if gas was not so expensive these days.

I guess I want 400hp and 20mpg, pie in the sky hahaha
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      05-17-2013, 06:52 AM   #7660
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How do you like having the Cobb AP and Alpina B3 TCU Flash? Are you running ST or LT maps?
I really like the Alpina flash! I've run it both with Cobb and Procede. On the Cobb I've only run the stock throttle maps, that's mostly based on advice from friends with Cobb and searching on here and the other forum as to what people recommended.
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Well I was thinking of parting my car out back to stock but decided to keep it all and am getting a protune from PTF. excited to see how this will go

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Well I was thinking of parting my car out back to stock but decided to keep it all and am not getting a protune from PTF. excited to see how this will go
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LOL I had to read this twice myself and then I saw the edit!!!
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Anyone want to take a look at my logs I posted couple pages back? Thanks.
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How do you like having the Cobb AP and Alpina B3 TCU Flash? Are you running ST or LT maps?
Since my pro-eTune also had a custom Throttle Mapping a more LT approach, having the Alpina Flash in D mode is a bit more smoother. When running OTS ST, the most common complaint is the D mode moving through gears to fast. So having a LT approach still move up fast, but not so quick.
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Hi

Can any of the experts have a look at these logs and tell me how bad they are?

These are the E30 race maps. I put in 17litres/4.5 gallons of E85 and filled the tank with 98RON. I drove 50kms/31miles on a stage 2 map and then switched over to make sure the mix was flowing.

Looks like they engine noise was "Unacceptable" as per the Cobb website as the corrections exceeded -3 (quite a bit).

Should I bother trying to alter in ATR, which I havent used before? Many thanks for any feedback.

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      05-19-2013, 12:43 AM   #7668
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Hi

Can any of the experts have a look at these logs and tell me how bad they are?

These are the E30 race maps. I put in 17litres/4.5 gallons of E85 and filled the tank with 98RON. I drove 50kms/31miles on a stage 2 map and then switched over to make sure the mix was flowing.

Looks like they engine noise was "Unacceptable" as per the Cobb website as the corrections exceeded -3 (quite a bit).

Should I bother trying to alter in ATR, which I havent used before? Many thanks for any feedback.

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Your last run looks pretty quiet...one small timing correction in cylinder 6 I believe. It takes at least three WOT runs for the adaptations to settle down. You may be fine. What mods do you have?
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      05-19-2013, 01:13 AM   #7669
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set cobb back to default logging tables and log again a lot of missing info here but as far as timing corrections its not that bad
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Your last run looks pretty quiet...one small timing correction in cylinder 6 I believe. It takes at least three WOT runs for the adaptations to settle down. You may be fine. What mods do you have?
Catless Dps, Catless mids, HPF FMIC, Mr 5 intake, LSD.

The car feels great so maybe it has settled down. I just made a couple more logs about an hour ago. They seem OK now but I am still cautious about these maps.

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      05-19-2013, 09:16 PM   #7671
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Catless Dps, Catless mids, HPF FMIC, Mr 5 intake, LSD.

The car feels great so maybe it has settled down. I just made a couple more logs about an hour ago. They seem OK now but I am still cautious about these maps.

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You, my friend, should be just fine. Good luck!
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      05-19-2013, 09:16 PM   #7672
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Quick question regarding pro tuning:

Given that (AFAIK) logs are done in 3rd or 4th gear pulls @ WOT, are tunes optimised only for WOT driving for maximum HP?

I know tunes for a daily drive vs a dyno queen can be quite different; so when analysing a WOT run, I assume you're going to gain across the entire rev range, however are you going to be optimised across the whole rev range or only WOT?

I'm currently FBO on 98oct running a Stage 2+ map and now considering a pro tune. It is a daily drive though so very little of my driving is WOT.

Thanks in advance!
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      05-21-2013, 01:07 AM   #7673
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Since my pro-eTune also had a custom Throttle Mapping a more LT approach, having the Alpina Flash in D mode is a bit more smoother. When running OTS ST, the most common complaint is the D mode moving through gears to fast. So having a LT approach still move up fast, but not so quick.
I dont have the Alpina flash yet because I'm still under CPO and I afraid they would notice it because how it shows the gear numbers in D & S and S instead of D/S. Dont want to void the tranny warranty or anything. But as soon as it's up I'll be doing it.

So far I do not like the LT maps, they feel slow compared to ST and I dont get that fantastic surge of power like the ST maps provide. But you can modulate the power a little better. I can see how one somewhere in between would be nice.
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Just a few questions on stage 1 aggressive/st:

The first time I turned the car on after the install, I got some brake system error message. It went away by itself after a few seconds. I did notice the brake pedal felt different than when I had the PPK BMW tune. Is this just me or was the brake pedal feel affected with the Cobb tune?

Also, I did a few pulls, and it is nearly 80 degrees here today - and I noticed that the fans came on aggressively, more than I remember on the PPK tune. Is that normal to have more heat with the Cobb tune?

After that the car, while mostly smooth, did not have as smooth an idle as with the PPK. 30k miles on it, so I assume it's just the heat and it was cooling down.
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Just a few questions on stage 1 aggressive/st:

The first time I turned the car on after the install, I got some brake system error message. It went away by itself after a few seconds. I did notice the brake pedal felt different than when I had the PPK BMW tune. Is this just me or was the brake pedal feel affected with the Cobb tune?

Also, I did a few pulls, and it is nearly 80 degrees here today - and I noticed that the fans came on aggressively, more than I remember on the PPK tune. Is that normal to have more heat with the Cobb tune?

After that the car, while mostly smooth, did not have as smooth an idle as with the PPK. 30k miles on it, so I assume it's just the heat and it was cooling down.
Log log log, it's the only way you/we can see exactly what's going on. I don't believe Cobb does anything with brake pedal feel, so i'm not sure what you're experiencing on that one. Any tuned car will produce more heat, end of story. I've never noticed a change in idle from stock to my current E30 maps, sometimes the very first startup will be a bit rough for a few seconds when switching maps, but there's always a bit of adapting that needs to take place.
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Just a few questions on stage 1 aggressive/st:

The first time I turned the car on after the install, I got some brake system error message. It went away by itself after a few seconds. I did notice the brake pedal felt different than when I had the PPK BMW tune. Is this just me or was the brake pedal feel affected with the Cobb tune?

Also, I did a few pulls, and it is nearly 80 degrees here today - and I noticed that the fans came on aggressively, more than I remember on the PPK tune. Is that normal to have more heat with the Cobb tune?

After that the car, while mostly smooth, did not have as smooth an idle as with the PPK. 30k miles on it, so I assume it's just the heat and it was cooling down.
Only way to know for sure is post some data logs for people to look at. Pushing a tuned car in warm weather on stock Fmic etc may make it run hotter. Are your spark plugs and coil packs original?
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Ok I'll do the data log. I have no idea what to do or what to select, I just want to make sure the car is running fine. What's a good resource for me to read?
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Not sure if this is the right place to ask an atr newb question, and the help file didnt address it, but I was looking at the timing table for the ijeos stage 1+ agg st map...it looks to me like that map advances timing from 3-5.5 degrees from 2500 to redline...is that right? Iow, is wot the highest load act values?
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