[BTM]

Originally Posted by AFV335i

Why is chorizo so damned good...los, I don't even want to know what part of the pig it is. Don't ruin it, just tasty.

dog

[BTM]

it is good though

[CubanJJ09]

fuckin cooked the yolks too long. Whore

[gary88]

so crappy outside right now

[CubanJJ09]

So feeling a little erked today. Suppose to go to fundraiser for my old manger at the bar I use to work at. I was there for just over a year but my Gf and her Sis had worked there for something like 6-7 years. She has bone marrow cancer and has no insurance cause the bar didn't provide any to her and of it did certainly not something good enough to cover this. Thing is she's been a life long smoker. I told my gf that yea it sucks she has this but what do u expect when u smoke cigs for 30+ years prob longer (she's 52). I feel bad but wtf u ya know. Cigs certainly didnt help u. I'll end up going or just giving some cash but it still kinda gets to me. Maybe I'm al asshole jr , I dont know

[gary88]

sca
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[CubanJJ09]

Me: (hears stupid music for fucking snooze go off 5 times)
Gf sis: I'm looking for my shoes and I'm 20 mins late already
Me:

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by CubanJJ09

So feeling a little erked today. Suppose to go to fundraiser for my old manger at the bar I use to work at. I was there for just over a year but my Gf and her Sis had worked there for something like 6-7 years. She has bone marrow cancer and has no insurance cause the bar didn't provide any to her and of it did certainly not something good enough to cover this. Thing is she's been a life long smoker. I told my gf that yea it sucks she has this but what do u expect when u smoke cigs for 30+ years prob longer (she's 52). I feel bad but wtf u ya know. Cigs certainly didnt help u. I'll end up going or just giving some cash but it still kinda gets to me. Maybe I'm al asshole jr , I dont know

you are but not because of this

[BTM]

is smoking cigarrettes linked to bone marrow cancer?

[CubanJJ09]

Originally Posted by BTM

is smoking cigarrettes linked to bone marrow cancer?

Same thing my gf and her sis. said. I said do u think it helped preventing it.

[UdubBadger]

you gotta realize smoking fucks up so many things in your body, its not just lung cancer. Kidney, throat, stomach, even brain. When you smoke, all that shit goes into your bloodstream so it travels all over. I dunno bout you guys but arsenic traveling all throughout my body just wasn't cool anymore so I quit and started going to every Superbowl I could. I've missed weddings, I have missed babies being born, but I have no intention of missing a Super Bowl — ever.

[Ricer X]

so this is one of my al asshole moments....ytf r these special needs cheer teams wasting my life this am???? y do they exist at all????

[BTM]

I honestly don't know if it is or isn't linked, but if an action is unrelated to an outcome or hasn't been shown to influence it, there's no point in considering the action.

Are there more people with bone marrow cancer that are or were smokers than weren't smokers?

[BTM]

Apparently it is linked:

http://www.greenfacts.org/en/tobacco...obacco.htm#0p0

"2.1 Which cancers are caused by cigarette smoking?
2.1.1 Lung
2.1.2 Urinary tract
2.1.3 Oral cavity
2.1.4 Nasal cavity and paranasal sinuses
2.1.5 Nasopharynx
2.1.6 Oropharynx and hypopharynx
2.1.7 Oesophagus
2.1.8 Larynx
2.1.9 Pancreas
2.1.10 Stomach
2.1.11 Liver
2.1.12 Cervix
2.1.13 Leukaemia"

"Support for a causal relationship of smoking with myeloid leukaemia is provided by the finding of known leukaemogens in tobacco smoke, one of which (benzene) is present in sufficient amounts to account for up to half of the estimated excess of acute myeloid leukaemia."

Sorry, no sympathy from me.

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by BTM

I honestly don't know if it is or isn't linked, but if an action is unrelated to an outcome or hasn't been shown to influence it, there's no point in considering the action.

Are there more people with bone marrow cancer that are or were smokers than weren't smokers?

probably considering the amount of people who have smoked at 1 time or another and people who've had cancer. it just might not be a direct correlation

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by BTM

Apparently it is linked:

http://www.greenfacts.org/en/tobacco...obacco.htm#0p0

"2.1 Which cancers are caused by cigarette smoking?
2.1.1 Lung
2.1.2 Urinary tract
2.1.3 Oral cavity
2.1.4 Nasal cavity and paranasal sinuses
2.1.5 Nasopharynx
2.1.6 Oropharynx and hypopharynx
2.1.7 Oesophagus
2.1.8 Larynx
2.1.9 Pancreas
2.1.10 Stomach
2.1.11 Liver
2.1.12 Cervix
2.1.13 Leukaemia"

"Support for a causal relationship of smoking with myeloid leukaemia is provided by the finding of known leukaemogens in tobacco smoke, one of which (benzene) is present in sufficient amounts to account for up to half of the estimated excess of acute myeloid leukaemia."

Sorry, no sympathy from me.

yup

[BTM]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

yup

Right, but saying "smoking fucks up more than your lungs" is not an adequate assumption to lead to bone marrow cancer...all I'm saying...

[UdubBadger]

quit now al

[UdubBadger]

Originally Posted by BTM

Right, but saying "smoking fucks up more than your lungs" is not an adequate assumption to lead to bone marrow cancer...all I'm saying...

obviously but i'm not a doctor nor am i publishing a study on the effects of smoking on the human body so for this purpose, a simple statement was enough.

[BTM]

Why? The approach is all wrong and what leads to general idiocy. If she had breast cancer would you automatically attribute that to smoking?

"Female breast

Most epidemiological studies have found no association with active smoking, after controlling for established risk factors (e.g. age at time of first birth, parity, family history of breast cancer and alcohol). The large multicentre pooled analysis of the association of smoking with breast cancer in non-drinkers confirms the lack of an increased risk of breast cancer associated with smoking."

"Endometrium

Cigarette smoking is not associated with an increased risk for endometrial cancer. An inverse relationship of cigarette smoking with endometrial cancer is observed consistently in most case–control and cohort studies, after adjustment for major confounders. This pattern is stronger in post-menopausal women."

[BTM]

not trying to call anyone out or anyone an idiot or anything, just that when it comes to serious topics, such as cancer, it's prudent to do a little research before a knee-jerk reaction.

The actual report, not just a website

http://monographs.iarc.fr/ENG/Monogr...3/volume83.pdf

[Ricer X]

Originally Posted by UdubBadger

quit now al

i dnt really smoke. golf....occassions where i will b standing around outside alot...stress...pretty much it.

fuk these ppl are clapping so muc for the special needs teams. dont u see that there are reular ppl hlding them up and moving them? theyre like puppets. its a frikkin puppet show.