E90Post
 


Coby Wheel
 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Technical Forums > AUDIO/VIDEO + BLUETOOTH + Electronics/Alarm/Software > Logic7 SWS-8 Underseat Sub Upgrade FAQ



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      01-22-2012, 04:50 PM   #67
taibanl
Brigadier General
taibanl's Avatar
281
Rep
4,121
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NA

iTrader: (4)

The OEM under seats are:
2 ohm for HiFi (Option 676)
4 Ohm for HK/L7 (Option 688)

Not sure if the L7 amp can push 2 ohm or not.
Attached Images
File Type: pdf bmw oem audio systems tis.pdf (191.5 KB, 437 views)
Appreciate 0
      01-22-2012, 05:04 PM   #68
tomob63
Captain
tomob63's Avatar
32
Rep
708
Posts

Drives: 2015 335i
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: Illinois

iTrader: (14)

It's OK - I just sold the whole package (amp, spacers, subs and harnesses) to a forum member.
__________________
2015 335i
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2012, 01:27 AM   #69
gbpackersfan11
First Lieutenant
gbpackersfan11's Avatar
United_States
14
Rep
347
Posts

Drives: 2013 Porsche 958
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by kmarei View Post
i was running them 120hz down, then switched to 90hz down
they sound much better, less boomy
i used to hear the bass coming from below the seat
now it feels like its coming from the door speakers
i like it much more
i am crossing over my door speakers at 60hz
and believe it or not they sound great
but i think the slight resonance i am hearing is the plastic cage of the actual speaker
not something else vibrating
i am using the logic 7 speakers
very happy with them otherwise, except at certain frequencies they resonate
can't think of a fix for that
i tried using weather sealant foam like you did on the 344is
improved, but not removed the resonance
any ideas?
for logic 7 sound system did to you add an extra amp or just use the stock one?
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2012, 01:38 AM   #70
gbpackersfan11
First Lieutenant
gbpackersfan11's Avatar
United_States
14
Rep
347
Posts

Drives: 2013 Porsche 958
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by taibanl View Post
The OEM under seats are:
2 ohm for HiFi (Option 676)
4 Ohm for HK/L7 (Option 688)

Not sure if the L7 amp can push 2 ohm or not.
The website for the earthquake says to use the 2 ohm speakers for the logic 7 system. Is that correct?
Appreciate 0
      02-23-2012, 07:12 AM   #71
kaigoss69
Brigadier General
kaigoss69's Avatar
United_States
301
Rep
3,969
Posts

Drives: '08 335i
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: JAX

iTrader: (6)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gbpackersfan11
Quote:
Originally Posted by taibanl View Post
The OEM under seats are:
2 ohm for HiFi (Option 676)
4 Ohm for HK/L7 (Option 688)

Not sure if the L7 amp can push 2 ohm or not.
The website for the earthquake says to use the 2 ohm speakers for the logic 7 system. Is that correct?
No! The OEM amp cannot handle a 2 ohm load plus it does not have enough power to drive the Earthquakes at elevated volume levels.

Do not mess with the OEM amp, just don't.
__________________
Mobridge DA2 > JBL MS-8 > ARC XDi 600/4 > JBL Gti 408 Mids & Vifa OT19 Tweeters; PG Ti2 1600.5 > Morel HCW-10 & IDMax 15
Appreciate 0
      02-24-2012, 12:42 PM   #72
kmarei
Major General
kmarei's Avatar
Egypt
755
Rep
6,876
Posts

Drives: 2014 BMW 435i X-drive
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: Reston, VA

iTrader: (34)

Garage List
2018 Audi RS5  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by gbpackersfan11 View Post
for logic 7 sound system did to you add an extra amp or just use the stock one?
i never had the logic 7 system
i had the logic 7 speakers only
__________________
Appreciate 0
      02-24-2012, 07:45 PM   #73
gbpackersfan11
First Lieutenant
gbpackersfan11's Avatar
United_States
14
Rep
347
Posts

Drives: 2013 Porsche 958
Join Date: Feb 2012
Location: Baltimore, MD

iTrader: (1)

Garage List
Quote:
Originally Posted by kaigoss69 View Post
No! The OEM amp cannot handle a 2 ohm load plus it does not have enough power to drive the Earthquakes at elevated volume levels.

Do not mess with the OEM amp, just don't.
Thank you. Personally I like the logic 7 sound system. its still better then what most cars have in them.
Appreciate 0
      02-24-2012, 08:17 PM   #74
VP Electricity
Brigadier General
VP Electricity's Avatar
United_States
294
Rep
3,201
Posts

Drives: F34 xDrive
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: portland oregon

iTrader: (3)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gbpackersfan11 View Post
Thank you. Personally I like the logic 7 sound system. its still better then what most cars have in them.
"Being better than what most cars have" doesn't mean it doesn't need lots of improvement...

The Earthquake folks really, honestly, don't know what they are doing with the BMWs. You should see their "tech tip" for installing the SWS-8.
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2012, 02:16 AM   #75
Lotus99
Colonel
Lotus99's Avatar
Canada
637
Rep
2,808
Posts

Drives: 19 M2C & 18 X3 M40i
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Canada

iTrader: (1)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VP Electricity View Post
"Being better than what most cars have" doesn't mean it doesn't need lots of improvement...

The Earthquake folks really, honestly, don't know what they are doing with the BMWs. You should see their "tech tip" for installing the SWS-8.
I'm hoping to install mine soon, and was going to start gathering info on it. Do you have a link to this install guide (though it sounds like I should avoid it! LOL!). Any info I figure is better than none, and then I'll make up my own mind as to what's the best technique.

And if you can tell me what this pitfall is that I should avoid, even better!
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2012, 08:08 AM   #76
Technic
Lieutenant General
Technic's Avatar
2472
Rep
13,132
Posts

Drives: 2025 Countryman S, 2024 i4 M50
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida

iTrader: (18)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Lotus99 View Post
I'm hoping to install mine soon, and was going to start gathering info on it. Do you have a link to this install guide (though it sounds like I should avoid it! LOL!). Any info I figure is better than none, and then I'll make up my own mind as to what's the best technique.

And if you can tell me what this pitfall is that I should avoid, even better!
Read the first post in the thread.
Appreciate 0
      02-25-2012, 12:26 PM   #77
VP Electricity
Brigadier General
VP Electricity's Avatar
United_States
294
Rep
3,201
Posts

Drives: F34 xDrive
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: portland oregon

iTrader: (3)

The SWS do not "bolt in" - they have the right bolt pattern but are too deep, and the notch in the enclosure for the connector is left open.

EQ tells people to use hugely thick foam tape as a spacer, and never mentions the notch at all.

We supply metal rings and gasket tape, and starting last year we also include HiFi/Top HiFi wiring adapters preinstalled on the woofers and the rings.
Appreciate 0
      02-29-2012, 05:25 PM   #78
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
361
Rep
5,985
Posts

Drives: F11 + 997 Carrera S
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

I took my subs out today and the driver was glued in.
I am sure on my 2006 E91 and the 2008 E91 the driver was bolted into the enclosure and it was just a case of unbolting it?

This was from a 2010 X1, so not sure if it is a year thing or an X1 specific thing? Anyone got any info?
Appreciate 0
      03-01-2012, 11:55 AM   #79
Technic
Lieutenant General
Technic's Avatar
2472
Rep
13,132
Posts

Drives: 2025 Countryman S, 2024 i4 M50
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida

iTrader: (18)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gIzzE View Post
I took my subs out today and the driver was glued in.
I am sure on my 2006 E91 and the 2008 E91 the driver was bolted into the enclosure and it was just a case of unbolting it?

This was from a 2010 X1, so not sure if it is a year thing or an X1 specific thing? Anyone got any info?
Glued in = 160mm woofer = Stereo system
Bolted in = 200 mm woofer = HiFi and Top HiFi systems
Appreciate 0
      03-01-2012, 01:42 PM   #80
gIzzE
Major General
gIzzE's Avatar
361
Rep
5,985
Posts

Drives: F11 + 997 Carrera S
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: Norfolk, UK.

iTrader: (2)

But my early 335i was the 160mm woofer and that wasn't glued, nor was the woofer on my wifes 320d E91.
That was a 2006 and 2007 car.

So is there a trick to getting them out???
Appreciate 0
      03-01-2012, 04:55 PM   #81
taibanl
Brigadier General
taibanl's Avatar
281
Rep
4,121
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NA

iTrader: (4)

VP once gave me perfect advice for this task:

"pry like it's not your car"
Appreciate 0
      03-01-2012, 06:31 PM   #82
Technic
Lieutenant General
Technic's Avatar
2472
Rep
13,132
Posts

Drives: 2025 Countryman S, 2024 i4 M50
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Florida

iTrader: (18)

Quote:
Originally Posted by gIzzE View Post
But my early 335i was the 160mm woofer and that wasn't glued, nor was the woofer on my wifes 320d E91.
That was a 2006 and 2007 car.

So is there a trick to getting them out???
The changes were done from 2010-on.
Appreciate 0
      05-30-2012, 11:17 PM   #83
supraken
Second Lieutenant
29
Rep
202
Posts

Drives: car
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: NY

iTrader: (3)

So if I have hifi system with stock amp, should I be using the 2 ohm or the 4 ohm version??
Appreciate 0
      05-30-2012, 11:22 PM   #84
kaigoss69
Brigadier General
kaigoss69's Avatar
United_States
301
Rep
3,969
Posts

Drives: '08 335i
Join Date: Jul 2008
Location: JAX

iTrader: (6)

If you're planning on using the stock amp, the answer is neither. Keep the OEM woofers as they are more efficient than anything aftermarket.
__________________
Mobridge DA2 > JBL MS-8 > ARC XDi 600/4 > JBL Gti 408 Mids & Vifa OT19 Tweeters; PG Ti2 1600.5 > Morel HCW-10 & IDMax 15
Appreciate 0
      05-31-2012, 12:39 AM   #85
VP Electricity
Brigadier General
VP Electricity's Avatar
United_States
294
Rep
3,201
Posts

Drives: F34 xDrive
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: portland oregon

iTrader: (3)

And since none of the stock systems use 2-ohm woofers, not certain what then2-ohms are good for. With HiFi, you really should upgrade the amp and the speakers...
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 11:25 AM   #86
taibanl
Brigadier General
taibanl's Avatar
281
Rep
4,121
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NA

iTrader: (4)

According to the BMW pdf, the HiFi are 2 ohm woofers
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 01:03 PM   #87
VP Electricity
Brigadier General
VP Electricity's Avatar
United_States
294
Rep
3,201
Posts

Drives: F34 xDrive
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: portland oregon

iTrader: (3)

Apologies. Last time this came up I actually metered my old HiFi woofers and they were indeed 2 ohms. I have some kind of mental block on this topic.

I guess I'm still trying to wrap my brain around a 2-ohm SWS on a HiFI amp
Appreciate 0
      06-01-2012, 02:07 PM   #88
taibanl
Brigadier General
taibanl's Avatar
281
Rep
4,121
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: NA

iTrader: (4)

Quote:
Originally Posted by VP Electricity
Apologies. Last time this came up I actually metered my old HiFi woofers and they were indeed 2 ohms. I have some kind of mental block on this topic.

I guess I'm still trying to wrap my brain around a 2-ohm SWS on a HiFI amp
Because you sell, and most of us on this forum buy...much better solutions
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
logic 7, subs, sws-8

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 03:21 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST