[rflow]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Dear,

My compliments, very well said. There is room enough for different prime companies providing excellent engine tuning solutions for the 335i ( we are talking about that now ). AA is one of them. Just don't undervalue smaller companies, thus a) they might grow and b) they provide the same support as you do. I don't think if another hot car will arise, Vishnu / Shiv will leave his customers stranded. Anyway, it would be a very uncommon commercial decision for a company to forget about the current customer base.

In my case, I also would have thought about AA but at the time I wanted to decide, you had no product. I ordered the PROcede and I'm still convinced that this decision has been a good one.

And no, I would not feel a lot more comfortable going with a reputable company who has been tuning BMW's and only BMW's for years. Somtimes it can be good to look behind the mirror just to see if there is something I have not been aware about

Regards
Eugen

That's the awesome thing about choices, in the end the real winner is the consumer. Congrats and enjoy your ride.

[lawdude]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

You are not understanding me. With my personal car I have put a ton of money into it and consider several different things before purchasing a product. I personally would like the comfort of knowing that I am recieving the correct information but they are actually guys constantly working to better the product. I am not bashing anyone or anyones products and if any of our customers did I would NOT condone it. Once again I think competition makes the products better for the consumer in the long run and that is why we are all here to satisfy you guys.

If you say so, it's ok with me.

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

If you would like to speak with our Head Engineer/Owner you can call right now 305.233.9300 and I will have him on the phone for you in a matter of seconds.

Haha, I'm a self-admitted turbo ignoramus. I wouldn't know where to begin with the questions. But there are people on this board who do. Having techs from a couple of competing products respectfully discuss the matter would be much more helpful and save a whole lot more time for your techs than having several board members call up to discuss the same issues over and over. Besides, an open discussion helps all of us out, not just those who call.

Please understand that I'm not trying to tell you how to market. I'm cool with whatever approach you take.

Cheers.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Dear,

My compliments, very well said. There is room enough for different prime companies providing excellent engine tuning solutions for the 335i ( we are talking about that now ). AA is one of them. Just don't undervalue smaller companies, thus a) they might grow and b) they provide the same support as you do. I don't think if another hot car will arise, Vishnu / Shiv will leave his customers stranded. Anyway, it would be a very uncommon commercial decision for a company to forget about the current customer base.

In my case, I also would have thought about AA but at the time I wanted to decide, you had no product. I ordered the PROcede and I'm still convinced that this decision has been a good one.

And no, I would not feel a lot more comfortable going with a reputable company who has been tuning BMW's and only BMW's for years. Somtimes it can be good to look behind the mirror just to see if there is something I have not been aware about

Regards
Eugen

Eugen,

I agree with you 100%. I have nothing against the small company and in NO way did I say we are a big company. Let me clarify this right now Active Autowerke is a small company in our eyes. We would be the last people to bad mouth a company coming into the industry becase we are still that company trying to prove ourselves over and over. We strive on customer service and that is our # 1 priority. As far as some of you opinions above I am just going off of facts but that is a whole other conversation.

Thank you for the kind words sir and I apologize for us taking so long to come to market. We are happy with the results and will continue to work to meet your standards.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Shiv you are somewhat confused. I wont comment on certain things you have said or some that are "lies".

You wont comment? You just did.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Please understand that I'm not trying to tell you how to market. I'm cool with whatever approach you take.Cheers.

No problem, I just dont want you to think that I mean our Engineers are too good for the forum. Its is not like that. Many of the answers that we feel are too technical we ask them to answer and then post the reply publicly. We will do whatever it takes to meet the customers expectations and make their experience with Active Autowerke a good one.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

You wont comment? You just did.

You got me again. Your good Shiv.
I have nothing further to say regarding the comments you made.

[lawdude]

Does this mean you two won't be hanging together?

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by lawdude

Does this mean you two won't be hanging together?

Yes its my treat.... if thats ok with him

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Omar-- That's cool that you guys are technically proficient. But as self-proclaimed leaders in the tuning industry, I just find it odd that your Xede implementation is the same as our old Xede implementation (save for the lack of add-on solenoid as per our PROcede implementation). I mean, there were a number of ways that this car could have been tuned with the Xede/PROcede but we ended up with something awfully similiar.

Hmm I'm not so sure I agree with the above statement, that there is a variety of ways to implement an interceptor device in the 335.

Whatever you do is going to have to hit the map sensor for boost (there is no other way), and its going to have to his the o2 sensors for wideband feedback / fuel (again, no other way for fuel I can see). I don't fully understand the timing system in the 335, but it sounds like a basic CPS sensor setup. Assuming that is the case, I don't see any other way to manipulate timing.

It would help if you could describe theoretical ways to implement the piggy back devices.


Thanks,
T

[OpenFlash]

Yes Terry, there is more than 1 way to implement a piggyback in the 335. And no, I'm not going to divulge how

[Terry335]

Well the alternatives must be inferior or you would have implemented them that way. My gears are turning though! I'll see if I can think up some alternative routes.

[turbocoins]

Question: Does Terry335 = TerryBurger?

[Terry335]

PM sent.

[turbocoins]

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Yes Terry, there is more than 1 way to implement a piggyback in the 335. And no, I'm not going to divulge how

I can only imagine. You havent replied regarding our Bimmerfest plans??

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

Omar Murray / Sales Manager
Active Autowerke
Phone: 305.233.9300 ext. 232
Email: omurray@activeautowerke.com
Currently Re-Inventing the Wheel ...

hmm ...

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

I can only imagine. You havent replied regarding our Bimmerfest plans??

Replied to what? Offer to hang out? Sure.. cool with me

Shiv

[jon@themshop]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Replied to what? Offer to hang out? Sure.. cool with me

Shiv

Hey what about my PM or remind Calvin to check his PM box.

[Carlito12]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Maybe we can meet up and have a couple of beers at Bimmerfest. I heard that we'll both be doing installs there. Maybe we can "pit" right next to each other and let people compare the products and the companies behind them.

Regards,
Shiv

does this mean that if I show up to Bimmerfest with cash on hand, I can have the ProCede installed there?

Or do I have to order now for the install there on May 5th?

Thx in Advance.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

hmm ...

It has been updated.

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by Carlito12

does this mean that if I show up to Bimmerfest with cash on hand, I can have the ProCede installed there?

Or do I have to order now for the install there on May 5th?

Thx in Advance.

Just found this...

http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=57920

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by Active Autowerke

It has been updated.

Please don't take it wrong. I had to reply

I really respect AA. BTW, the 335i catback is great !

Regards
Eugen