[sflgator]

Originally Posted by Terrance28

I ran a 12.7 @ 109 with M6 reps on generals, totally stock on 93. It was 76 degrees.

Decent!!!

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

to be honest Ive had nothing but problems with my jb3. I love it when it works right. Terry sent me a 1.22 chip and I havent gotten a limp yet but the car is surging and its not as smooth anymore.His customer service is amazing though. Im going to try it a bit longer but I think I want to switch to the new procede and see how it goes. Im getting a laptop finally. btw Im running 93 octane, with really cold weather and a helene drop in filter. sometimes I think of going back to the simplicity of my beloved sstt. good power and never any issues. I know some people are completely limp free on all jb3 maps but not me. My car has never thrown a limp with sstt or jb2H. 1.1 and 1.2 were awful with limps and so far 1.22 is limp free but does other weird things..I dont know. If the dealer can EVER fix my lumpy,lumpy idle I'll be happy.one trip after another. It figures...I buy out my lease and suddenly start having problems.
edit: forgot to mention Im pre 29.2

The first thing you should do if things aren't running smoothly is cycle through the maps. So start at map 0 and drive for a day or so. Then move to map 1, then to map 2, etc. Then let BMS know which map is having the problem, or that all of them are, and they can point you in the right direction. Certain issues like fuel pumps, injectors, etc, will effect only the higher boost maps, while others like wastegate issues or installation problems might effect all of them.

Mike

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

The first thing you should do if things aren't running smoothly is cycle through the maps. So start at map 0 and drive for a day or so. Then move to map 1, then to map 2, etc. Then let BMS know which map is having the problem, or that all of them are, and they can point you in the right direction. Certain issues like fuel pumps, injectors, etc, will effect only the higher boost maps, while others like wastegate issues or installation problems might effect all of them.

Mike

So far 1.22 is good but in 5th and 6th gear the car is surging and it feels like Im on a see saw. The delivery is not smooth like im used to. honestly, Ive been through this troubleshooting thing too much lately and Im getting quite tired of it. Im not knocking Terry because he seems like a good guy and his customer service is excellent but its time to try procede.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

So far 1.22 is good but in 5th and 6th gear the car is surging and it feels like Im on a see saw. The delivery is not smooth like im used to. honestly, Ive been through this troubleshooting thing too much lately and Im getting quite tired of it. Im not knocking Terry because he seems like a good guy and his customer service is excellent but its time to try procede.

Nothing wrong with trying different things. You really sound more like a JB+ customer to me. But if you are surging on every single map (0-6) then something is wrong other than the tuning IMHO.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Nothing wrong with trying different things. You really sound more like a JB+ customer to me. But if you are surging on every single map (0-6) then something is wrong other than the tuning IMHO.

Great. Insult the guy

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Nothing wrong with trying different things. You really sound more like a JB+ customer to me. But if you are surging on every single map (0-6) then something is wrong other than the tuning IMHO.

Its not every map just map 4 and 6. mostly map 6. It does it about 85% of the time even when the car has warmed up. as far as jb+ goes there's no guarantee it will be as trouble free as the sstt.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Nothing wrong with trying different things. You really sound more like a JB+ customer to me. But if you are surging on every single map (0-6) then something is wrong other than the tuning IMHO.

also, when the jb3 isnt in the car it drives flawless other than the shitty idle.

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

Its not every map just map 4 and 6. mostly map 6. It does it about 85% of the time even when the car has warmed up. as far as jb+ goes there's no guarantee it will be as trouble free as the sstt.

There is a 14 day money back guarantee JB+ will drive as well or better than the SSTT.

Maps 4 and 6 are lagfix maps and more aggressive on the wastegates, does it surge on map 3? Also map 1 is almost identical to the JB+ default tuning, so you could give that a shot to see what you think.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by hun77777

so you tested both tune with the car that possibly had turbo leak, if i understand your thread correctly?

wrong, no boost leak, but a faulty turbo thats about to end its life. Car is boosting what it should be.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

There is a 14 day money back guarantee JB+ will drive as well or better than the SSTT.

Maps 4 and 6 are lagfix maps and more aggressive on the wastegates, does it surge on map 3? Also map 1 is almost identical to the JB+ default tuning, so you could give that a shot to see what you think.

do you think I shouldnt be using a lagfix map on my pre 29.2? I wouldnt mind testing out the jbplus for the hell of it.

[De90man]

SFValley, respectfully, get your car fixed THEN do a proper review, not one about smoke and unfortunate leaks not directly related to a tune.

Or rename your post: "What happened to me on the way to get a tune." That has a nice ring to it no?

[FotiosF90M5]

yeah that smoke thing will really scare away potential customers in an unwarranted way.pretty misleading.

[A418t81]

I'll say this much: Both Shiv and Terry spend a lot of time making sure that the products they put out work like they are supposed to without any limps on properly functioning cars. Piggybacks, especially ones that really ramp up the performance like the Procede and JB3 are great for "testing" your personal car for any issues. Both systems essentially demand that everything work in tip top shape or otherwise limps will occur as safety routines are triggered in the ECU or the PB itself.

If you have a shitty idle, something is wrong. If you have a smoking turbo, obviously something is wrong. Both of you lack insight if you think your vehicles should run optimally tuned with either of those issues. If you are limping and don't think you have a reason to limp, chances are something is wrong with your car and not the PB. The PB at this point in their development is a diagnosis of exclusion, it is usually NOT the inciting problem.

Also, tell me more about this "free-er revving" because unless a PB comes with a lightened flywheel, its BS. The amount of throttle travel relative to throttle angle or boost pressure response does not equal to a free-er revving engine...though it may appear so to those who know very little, which applies to the majority here.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by A418t81

I'll say this much: Both Shiv and Terry spend a lot of time making sure that the products they put out work like they are supposed to without any limps on properly functioning cars. Piggybacks, especially ones that really ramp up the performance like the Procede and JB3 are great for "testing" your personal car for any issues. Both systems essentially demand that everything work in tip top shape or otherwise limps will occur as safety routines are triggered in the ECU or the PB itself.

If you have a shitty idle, something is wrong. If you have a smoking turbo, obviously something is wrong. Both of you lack insight if you think your vehicles should run optimally tuned with either of those issues. If you are limping and don't think you have a reason to limp, chances are something is wrong with your car and not the PB. The PB at this point in their development is a diagnosis of exclusion, it is usually NOT the inciting problem.

Also, tell me more about this "free-er revving" because unless a PB comes with a lightened flywheel, its BS. The amount of throttle travel relative to throttle angle or boost pressure response does not equal to a free-er revving engine...though it may appear so to those who know very little, which applies to the majority here.

with jb3 1.0,1.1,and 1.2 I didnt have a shitty idle and thats when it limped the most.The car was perfect. The idle problem is new and Im currently running 1.22.My insight says my car was ready for "optimal tuning" and it still had numerous problems. 1.22 is acting up but I can blame that partially on my particular car. jb3 works great for some cars and not so great for others.

[A418t81]

Then take the JB3 out and see if the bad idle remains, which more than likely it will.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by A418t81

Then take the JB3 out and see if the bad idle remains, which more than likely it will.

It does remain. Its been in and they replaced a coil and a spark plug on cylinder one. Its still there...its frustrating. the car just wont give a check engine light so they dont know what to do. now I have to take it out again and bring it back. One thing I learned from this is in pre 29.2 jb3 seems to be undetectable. They really dug into it and I even saw dirty fingerprints on the ecu cover. I never said the jb3 caused the shitty idle. Its just something that came up before I put in 1.22.It came up when the car was stock btw.

[5soko]

Running a tune, you have to understand that some things might fail that is not a direct cause. Alot of people are having to change there plugs once they get into the mid 20k miles. Other things like fuel injectors and such are popping up all over the place aswell. IF the cars isnt running 100% stock, shitty idle and such, i wouldn't put a tune on it until it is tip top shape.

[FotiosF90M5]

Originally Posted by 5soko335i

Running a tune, you have to understand that some things might fail that is not a direct cause. Alot of people are having to change there plugs once they get into the mid 20k miles. Other things like fuel injectors and such are popping up all over the place aswell. IF the cars isnt running 100% stock, shitty idle and such, i wouldn't put a tune on it until it is tip top shape.

Im taking it out tomorrow and bringing it back in. hopefully they can actually fix it this time.

[NatesGr8]

Don't get a JB3 or your Turbo's will blow ahh just kidding. The review made sense to me, i don't see any reason for people to be getting bent out of shape over it. I clearly understood that he didn't blame it on either tune for the turbo failure.

I have a few questions though:
-How many miles were on your car when you first noticed smoke?
-Has the car ever been running low on oil?
-Has the car ever been low on coolant?
-Have you ever had any known instances of boost spiking?

All or any of the last 3 could lead to premature turbo failure and i'm just curious about some more of your car's history.

Nate

[Mike@N54Tuning.com]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

do you think I shouldnt be using a lagfix map on my pre 29.2? I wouldnt mind testing out the jbplus for the hell of it.

I would have to defer to BMS' technical support on that one. I have seen many pre 29.2 run the lagfix maps with no problem. If the car has an idle problem I am wondering if something else is going on that is causing problems with the mapping. I know with 1.22 they built in ~10 diagnostic maps to disable different things to help people in your situation. You really should contact them if you haven't already and see if they can help you figure it out.

Mike

[exidisjon]

Originally Posted by fotios335i

Its not every map just map 4 and 6. mostly map 6. It does it about 85% of the time even when the car has warmed up. as far as jb+ goes there's no guarantee it will be as trouble free as the sstt.

Try map 3 default. It should feel alot smoother and have the similar if not better feeling power compared to map 4 and 6 with just a tune and intake.

When i tried the new map 6/7 and 3/4 that was my similar expression. I only have a tune and DCI.
If you have excessive mods such as downpipes and exhaust and etc than i heard map 6/7 is no joke....And people loves it. Never experienced it tho.
And the lagfix map 4 compared to map 3 is a bit more "rough" feeling IMO and less smooth.
But map 3 which is the high boost normal default map was GREAT...Felt smooth and drove nicely.
Just my 2 cent.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

JB3 1.2 gives you the holy shit feeling from the moment you touch the pedal a little bit

This is the tune for me ! Huge torque down low is what I always wanted...