[luca335i]

What do u guys to do lambos specifically? Are u guys a perfoance shop?

[farbmw]

Originally Posted by luca335i

What do u guys to do lambos specifically? Are u guys a perfoance shop?

I spoke to them and they are a custom performance shop for any vehicle!

[Irishace]

Very interested in this, Far are you going to explore further?

[farbmw]

Originally Posted by Irishace

Very interested in this, Far are you going to explore further?

Yes, I talked to them today at lunch and I will be taking the turbos to him next week.

[mycoupe]

In for updates

[Belarus]

[SJL Custom]

We customize high end luxury and exotic cars. We are a one stop shop. Our biggest client is Lamborghini Canada. We upgrade and customize their cars for clients across the country. Anything that is not offered from the factory is done by us. This includes wheels & tires, suspension, exhaust, stereo systems, interiors, body kits and paint work, and performance upgrades etc. But we don't just do lambos. We do all makes and models but specialize in the high end market. Our website is down right now for updates but our temp facebook page gives you an idea.

[farbmw]

Some good news, SJL Custom is looking at the turbos and he knows his stuff!!

He explained a lot and now I understand how our turbos work!

So we will see what he comes up with.

[dzenno]

far, long time bro! ever get any of the mods installed? when are you hitting the track again?

[Irishace]

Hey Far, whats the good word. Keeping well?

[farbmw]

Originally Posted by dzenno

far, long time bro! ever get any of the mods installed? when are you hitting the track again?

LOL, just got back from the U.S. I had a personal emergency to attend too, and I may have to go back, so I am still collecting my mods I was hoping to go to the track soon but like I said I may have to go back too the U.S.

Originally Posted by Irishace

Hey Far, whats the good word. Keeping well?

The good word is I like SJL Customs they know what they are doing, I seen the Lambo and the GT-2 they are working on, I didn't see the GT-R but I did see the turbos that they are doing the custom work on and they are a little bit bigger then our twins.

I am OK for now.

[Irishace]

Originally Posted by farbmw

LOL, just got back from the U.S. I had a personal emergency to attend too, and I may have to go back, so I am still collecting my mods I was hoping to go to the track soon but like I said I may have to go back too the U.S.

Sorry to hear, keep your chin up and I wish you all the best. Be well man.

[SJL Custom]

Farley

I've had your turbos apart the last couple days and have started looking for possible ways to upgrade. Through my research I have found something that should be able to fit inside the stock housings with the potential to make approximately 550-600hp. This upgrade uses a journal bearing upgrade like all the others that offer upgraded hybrid turbos thus far. I am currently putting together the information to possibly try and fit a ball bearing chra into the stock housings. These will provide much better spool and service life than the journal bearing versions. There is also a possibility of using a titanium turbine section as well that will produce even greater spool than the ball bearing version. Something similar to what we are developing for the r35 gtr.

[Irishace]

Originally Posted by SJL Custom

Farley

I've had your turbos apart the last couple days and have started looking for possible ways to upgrade. Through my research I have found something that should be able to fit inside the stock housings with the potential to make approximately 550-600hp. This upgrade uses a journal bearing upgrade like all the others that offer upgraded hybrid turbos thus far. I am currently putting together the information to possibly try and fit a ball bearing chra into the stock housings. These will provide much better spool and service life than the journal bearing versions. There is also a possibility of using a titanium turbine section as well that will produce even greater spool than the ball bearing version. Something similar to what we are developing for the r35 gtr.

Ohh dear, I think I am in love. You may have a second customer in the GTA coming your way soon. Thanks for the information, much appreciated.

[farbmw]

Originally Posted by SJL Custom

Farley

I've had your turbos apart the last couple days and have started looking for possible ways to upgrade. Through my research I have found something that should be able to fit inside the stock housings with the potential to make approximately 550-600hp. This upgrade uses a journal bearing upgrade like all the others that offer upgraded hybrid turbos thus far. I am currently putting together the information to possibly try and fit a ball bearing chra into the stock housings. These will provide much better spool and service life than the journal bearing versions. There is also a possibility of using a titanium turbine section as well that will produce even greater spool than the ball bearing version. Something similar to what we are developing for the r35 gtr.

Nice!

[Tiago@VRSF]

Originally Posted by SJL Custom

Farley

I've had your turbos apart the last couple days and have started looking for possible ways to upgrade. Through my research I have found something that should be able to fit inside the stock housings with the potential to make approximately 550-600hp. This upgrade uses a journal bearing upgrade like all the others that offer upgraded hybrid turbos thus far. I am currently putting together the information to possibly try and fit a ball bearing chra into the stock housings. These will provide much better spool and service life than the journal bearing versions. There is also a possibility of using a titanium turbine section as well that will produce even greater spool than the ball bearing version. Something similar to what we are developing for the r35 gtr.

Keep in mind most of the guys on the board don't have Lambo/GTR money

[IlChengis]

Originally Posted by tvieira24

Keep in mind most of the guys on the board don't have Lambo/GTR money

+1
Thanks for the update, looks promising... but please don't price the upgraded snails like the other vendors. Be fair with your pricing and you'll have a serious edge over the other 'snail upgraders'.

Ciao,

-Walter

[SJL Custom]

The pricing will be as fair as possible. Just cause we do high end luxury and exotics doesnt mean that we are overly expensive. Most find us to be very competitive compaired to others of the same or less caliber. We are a small shop with no fancy showrooms or huge shiny buildings. This keeps our overhead as low as possible which relays back to our pricing for the customer.

There is quite a bit of machining work and setup involved in reworking these turbos. None of the flanges and machined surfaces are square which makes setting up the manifold in the machines difficult. Special fixtures will have to be constructed to get them to sit properly without deflection when machining so that tolerences are exact and correct.

As i mentioned in my last post. Im looking into three different possible options. Pricing will be reflected in these different options. The journal bearing setup will of course be the cheapest option. I personally am not a fan of journal bearing setups and such is why i have chosen to look further into better setup solutions. Ball bearing setups last longer, are more efficient and spool faster than journal bearings and have the potential to make more power on the top end allowing the setup to have more range. The third option with the titanium turbine/billet compressor wheel will be for those looking for the absolute most performance from a hybrid setup. it will spool even faster and allow for even more on the top end.

Our attitude when designing or reworking components is to get the most out of any given setup. But we also like to design on the facts that the components must form, fit and function like factory. This being said all three options will fit back on the vehicle using factory oil and cooling lines, making it hard for the dealer to even suspect there is anything bigger in there. We have done this with the 997 Turbo Farley mentioned he saw at our shop. The hybrid turbos on that vehicle look completely stock from the outside but are capable of 800+ hp. The same goes for our GTR setup we have been working on, capable of 1000+ hp.

We just dont settle for the obvious easy setup. All three setup will be outline interchangable as well, so if someone purchases the journal setup, they may be able to upgrade to the ball bearing or titanium versions at a later time as well.

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by SJL Custom

Farley

I've had your turbos apart the last couple days and have started looking for possible ways to upgrade. Through my research I have found something that should be able to fit inside the stock housings with the potential to make approximately 550-600hp. This upgrade uses a journal bearing upgrade like all the others that offer upgraded hybrid turbos thus far. I am currently putting together the information to possibly try and fit a ball bearing chra into the stock housings. These will provide much better spool and service life than the journal bearing versions. There is also a possibility of using a titanium turbine section as well that will produce even greater spool than the ball bearing version. Something similar to what we are developing for the r35 gtr.

How did you arrive at the 550-600hp figure and is this flywheel or rear wheel? Sounds promising but you have to be aware that a few companies have already been down this road and it took them a long time to only figure out in the end that the project wasn't feasible due to cost...how sure are you at this point that this project, given pricing, will be both affordable/competitively priced AND make you money as well?

EDIT: As far as I know and have read bearings themselves (ball vs journal) don't have a dramatic upgrade in power, if any, they impact spool time mostly... The reason for having journal bearings (like RB Turbos) instead of ball bearings on N54s, I believe, is the lack of BB in the correct size with water and oil cooling which you really want to preserve to minimize swap complexity. Even if BB were available, then there is the question if you want to pay for the difference considering the spool time is not really a problem as these spool up way below 2000rpm...i'd say stick with journal bearings here to keep cost down as there'd be minimal advantage from BB even if you got it to work...having said that, having this as an "option" is a great idea too...good luck!

P.S. Have you looked at the RB upgraded turbos?

[SJL Custom]

I have already priced out the journal bearing version in regards to what the parts will cost. The custom machining side of things is where the real cost will lay. There is also the wastegate side of things that needs to be addressed as well.

The hp figure comes from the compressor maps. It gives a rough idea of what targets should be. we use engine perametres to calculate points on the compressor map in order to come up with a rough figure for hp range

[Ilma]

Originally Posted by SJL Custom

I have already priced out the journal bearing version in regards to what the parts will cost. The custom machining side of things is where the real cost will lay. There is also the wastegate side of things that needs to be addressed as well.

The hp figure comes from the compressor maps. It gives a rough idea of what targets should be. we use engine perametres to calculate points on the compressor map in order to come up with a rough figure for hp range

Is your shop equipped to actually remove and re- install the turbos from our vehicles?

Would you be offering that sort of turnkey product if these turbos pan out for you?

[SJL Custom]

Yes. We are a full mechanical and customization shop. That type of job is nothing for us to handle.