[scalbert]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Not if they dont know they are upgraded.. Most dealerships you can get away with basic bolt ons but turbo swaps will void your warranty for sure.. If they cant see you upgraded the turbos its 1 less headache when you for warranty..

I guess I am under the beleif that if you mod it, it is your responsibility regardless of being seen or not. Seems like the ethical thing to me.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Im used to it.. We are new.. Nobody knows who we are on here.. its ok.. Im straight forward & I stand behind what we build and i know what we offer works..

check out AWD Motorsports on Youtube.. We have quite a bit of experience with billet turbo setups..

http://www.youtube.com/user/awdmotorsports

Very nice, welcome! This setup looks promising and that powerband is sick!! Can't wait to read more customer reviews

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by scalbert

And congrats to Mike @ AWD Motorsports, looks like a nice option down the road.

I may need to stop by the shop the next time I am down that way on business. I have been doing some work over the last year at a company right next to the Executive Airport in northern Ft. Lauderdale and by the looks of it, your shop is right around the corner.

Stop by anytime.. We always have something interesting going on here from 900whp 8 sec evos, Fully Built Gt2 Porsches and 2 of our own 335i's we have now..

Mike

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by scalbert

I guess I am under the beleif that if you mod it, it is your responsibility regardless of being seen or not. Seems like the ethical thing to me.

I agree to the extent that when your AC goes out and they say you have upgraded turbos and have no warranty then i have an issue.. This gives them 1 less reason to make your life difficult thats all..

Mike

[BrianMN]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Stop by anytime.. We always have something interesting going on here from 900whp 8 sec evos, Fully Built Gt2 Porsches and 2 of our own 335i's we have now..

Mike

Awesome... welcome!

[AWD Motorsports]

Thanks guys for the welcome.. I like this forum.. Its right up my alley at a FAST PACE.. I like sites that people actually post and contribute their thoughts on whether good or bad.. Nothing worse than making a thread only to see 1000 views and 4 replies.. LOL

Mike

[orionredwing]

Exciting news! I'm in love w/ that torque curve

Do you have any testing done w/ 93oct? What's the est whp on 93oct no meth, for real world driving situations?

If I understand correctly, meth injection won't help (w/ 110oct) as you're already at the limits of the fuel system? Well...., lower IATs for a lil more HP, but not dramatic gains as you can't turn up the boost any further?

[Clap135]

Way to be way defensive over nothing.

Here are the facts:
You made 440whp when running it to 6k, at that boost level, that is not impressive at all, stockers hit that.

On the 7k run, you made what 422ish, better then stock, 2400dollars better though? some say yes, ill say no.

Push these turbos past the stock turbo limits and I will BET my ass you will not hold power to 7k, you arnt even doing it now on the 420 run, which wasnt till 7k to begin with.

Any estimates to how high these can be pushed to begin with?

You said positive and negative replies are welcome, don't take it personal.

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by orionredwing

Exciting news!

Do you have any testing done w/ 93oct? What's the est whp on 93oct no meth, for real world driving situations?

If I understand correctly, meth injection won't help (w/ 110oct) as you're already at the limits of the fuel system? Well...., lower IATs for a lil more HP, but not dramatic gains as you can't turn up the boost any further?

On Pump alone The car made ~410whp..

The METH does help with race gas because of the added fueling support for the Direct Injection Fuel system..

[Iwantm3]

Pm sent =]

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Clap135

Way to be way defensive over nothing.

Here are the facts:
You made 440whp when running it to 6k, at that boost level, that is not impressive at all, stockers hit that.

On the 7k run, you made what 422ish, better then stock, 2400dollars better though? some say yes, ill say no.

Push these turbos past the stock turbo limits and I will BET my ass you will not hold power to 7k, you arnt even doing it now on the 420 run, which wasnt till 7k to begin with.

Any estimates to how high these can be pushed to begin with?

You said positive and negative replies are welcome, don't take it personal.

I dont have a 450 Pull to redline because the plugs were misfiring as i said.. if you are skeptical look at the boost its holding to redline on this run.. It was holding 19psi of boost til redline.. While the peak HP # is not 450 because this as an earlier run before timing and fuel were set perfect it shows they can hold 19psi til redline.. I will get the car back on the dyno dont worry and show you 450+ and 19psi to 7k..

Remember something else.. There is more to an engine setup than just the turbo.. You cant expect stock cams to hold power til 8k rpm just because the turbos holds boost til 8k.. These turbos CLEARLY hold power much closer to redline than stockers and are a huge gain on top end.. Even if you shift the car at 6800 it stays on full power no problem..

[OpenFlash]

It's also worth noting that the dyno MAP sensor calibrations are approx .8psi higher than the Procede calibrations. So when the Procede was run at 18psi, the dyno logged almost 19psi.

And for the last several runs (17psi and up), methanol was inadvertently disabled. I really wish I had another day with the car. But I'm sure Mike will post up final results with everything working as it should.

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

I dont have a 450 Pull to redline because the plugs were misfiring as i said.. if you are skeptical look at the boost its holding to redline on this run.. It was holding 19psi of boost til redline.. While the peak HP # is not 450 because this as an earlier run before timing and fuel were set perfect it shows they can hold 19psi til redline.. I will get the car back on the dyno dont worry and show you 450+ and 19psi to 7k..

Remember something else.. There is more to an engine setup than just the turbo.. You cant expect stock cams to hold power til 8k rpm just because the turbos holds boost til 8k.. These turbos CLEARLY hold power much closer to redline than stockers and are a huge gain on top end.. Even if you shift the car at 6800 it stays on full power no problem..

There logs on here of stockers holding the same, maybe half a psi less to redline. Look up startupjunkie.

Boost and fuel wasnt set? Theres nothing to set, you were on race gas and meth, that power is REALLY low for that boost pressure on a fully bolted car. You need to do some reading on here and see what others have hit on stocker vs upgraded twins, your about 60-80 whp off.

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Clap135

There logs on here of stockers holding the same, maybe half a psi less to redline. Look up startupjunkie.

Boost and fuel wasnt set? Theres nothing to set, you were on race gas and meth, that power is REALLY low for that boost pressure on a fully bolted car. You need to do some reading on here and see what others have hit on stocker vs upgraded twins, your about 60-80 whp off.

So since you know more than I do explain why we made 450whp on less boost if all the tuning was done?? did it magically pickup 20whp on less boost?? feel free to PM me links of DYNOJET cars that make 430whp and hold the power to redline.. I havent seen any yet.. Thanks!!

Mike

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

So since you know more than I do explain why we made 450whp on less boost if all the tuning was done?? did it magically pickup 20whp on less boost??

Mike

lol, please stop before you look bad.
Research how timing works on this car, the research what fuel actually does to this car. It a closed loop system 100percent of the time, once you set it, its done. As for timing, once it sees racegas and meth, its maxed out as no tune actually advances timing as of yet.

I never said stockers hit 422whp at redline, but 20whp is not worth 2400 plus 1k to insall these thing. However people have different opinions, you just happen not to like mine.

Btw, did you ignore the part where i said you are about 60-80whp off from other upgraded set ups?

[AWD Motorsports]

So far 2 sets sold and we will wait to hear back with results when they are complete.. Ill keep everyone updated.. Both members agreed to do before and after dynos..

Mike

[Forcefed3]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

So far 2 sets sold and we will wait to hear back with results when they are complete.. Ill keep everyone updated.. Both members agreed to do before and after dynos..

Mike

Is the pricing going to be ridiculous?

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by Clap135

lol, please stop before you look bad.
Research how timing works on this car, the research what fuel actually does to this car. It a closed loop system 100percent of the time, once you set it, its done. As for timing, once it sees racegas and meth, its maxed out as no tune actually advances timing as of yet.

I never said stockers hit 422whp at redline, but 20whp is not worth 2400 plus 1k to insall these thing. However people have different opinions, you just happen not to like mine.

I wont look bad.. Settle down buddy.. Nobody is beating you over the head to buy a set.. LOL

These will make even more power.. This was just preliminary testing.. who is to say with the new plugs the car isnt make 465whp at 7k.. I havent had a chance to get the car back on the dyno..

[AWD Motorsports]

Originally Posted by gbreeE90

Is the pricing going to be ridiculous?

Pricing is posted already.. 2400.00/set + core..

Mike

[Forcefed3]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

Pricing is posted already.. 2400.00/set + core..

Mike

Oh, sorry, I didnt read all 5 pages. But that is a pretty good price, will these be continued or is there a limited quantity? Thanks.

[Clap135]

Originally Posted by AWD Motorsports

I wont look bad.. Settle down buddy.. Nobody is beating you over the head to buy a set.. LOL

These will make even more power.. This was just preliminary testing.. who is to say with the new plugs the car isnt make 465whp at 7k.. I havent had a chance to get the car back on the dyno..

465 is still about 60-80 off though....

[AWD Motorsports]

HEre is an example of a Race gas tune and similar power on Race gas..

PROcede v4 Autotuning
AMS Intercooler
AMS Catback Exhaust
VK Downpipes
CP-E Charge pipe/Tial BOV
DCI
100 octane
~19psi





From 5500 to 7000 its more like 60+hp and on 450hp car its like 90hp on top.. Do you know what that looks like in car lengths thru 4 gears or 5 or 6 gears on the highway.. I dont know about you but for 2400 Ill take 5-6 car lengths over a similar modded 335.. Depends on how hardcore you are about being FASTER than the guy next to you.. Even look at the TQ @ 6500rpm.. thats ours is still at 350 and the stockers at 300..