[shadowcoder]

Originally Posted by FKNBD808BMR

hey felix,

i'm still dissapointed on the way you treat your customers. is there any compromise where we can both be happy. i'm pretty sure on the deleted thread that you would cover half of the shipping to me in hawaii. and why would you cover the cali guys and not me, since you did benefit for shipping to ny rather than cali and ny. i swear i wouldnt have joined this gb if i knew first and foremost that it would be from ny, thats pretty much on the other side of the world..ha h ahaa. let me know.

I'm pretty sure the agreement was to cover your shipping to california which
is where the lips were gonna go in the first place.

[Felix@europassion]

Originally Posted by FKNBD808BMR

hey felix,

i'm still dissapointed on the way you treat your customers. is there any compromise where we can both be happy. i'm pretty sure on the deleted thread that you would cover half of the shipping to me in hawaii. and why would you cover the cali guys and not me, since you did benefit for shipping to ny rather than cali and ny. i swear i wouldnt have joined this gb if i knew first and foremost that it would be from ny, thats pretty much on the other side of the world..ha h ahaa. let me know.

the first group that Ive made.its totally succesfull.you can ask the buyers.

as I promised them before that Ill pay 2 buyers from san diego and matt.

Believe it or not..I dont take profits at all from the shipping.I will scan for you the original invoice from my agent

[Felix@europassion]

OK guys.


let me clear one more time..you guys are charging me back towards paypal.

Come one buddy! all kits are in vancouver and ny(alphonse)

I want to settle this problems asap too..

for those in vancouver and usa.please dont do this to me...

[jim808boy]

Originally Posted by Felix@europassion

the first group that Ive made.its totally succesfull.you can ask the buyers.

as I promised them before that Ill pay 2 buyers from san diego and matt.

Believe it or not..I dont take profits at all from the shipping.I will scan for you the original invoice from my agent

So the Hawaii guys have to pay double or triple the original shipping cost (since its in NY not Cali) and wait another week or two for our lips?

[Felix@europassion]

Please guys

lets work this together k...

[zzinco79]

Ok Felix.

I am not being an a$$ hole anymore.
Since you saved alot of my money from the lip, I want to give you another chance.
Cheappest replica Hamann lip I can get in the U.S is more than $400. Not joking. and its not painted and shipped.
So, you really saved alot of my money.

I'm unhappy with the delay. Not from the paint job or anything.
So, since you were saying that delay is caused by your painting agent and shipping agent, prove it.
I believe you are a good man. You are not a thief or a liar.

So, show me (or us) the paper works.

1. Paper works that shows the date (good to have time instead) of paint job finished.
2. Paper works that shows the date of your shipping agent picked up items from your factory.
3. Paper works that can prove you paid your own money for the shipping.
4. More paper works that can prove more things will be good.

I wish I can see you at this forum in the future and buy more stuffs from you.
So prove you are a good business man.


People who made paypal dispute, please cancel it.
The lips won't be shipped out until you guys cancel the dispute (Lucid already got all the lips).
I really want to see my lips and put it on my car.
However, obviously I won't say just cancel it.
I want you guys to give felix another chance to prove himself a good man and what was the real cause that delayed this GB.

I'm still unhappy about this GB. But felix, just do this then I won't be bitching anymore and will be happy.

Thanks for all members.

(sorry for poor english)

[FKNBD808BMR]

Originally Posted by shadowcoder

I'm pretty sure the agreement was to cover your shipping to california which
is where the lips were gonna go in the first place.

AMEN!!!

[FKNBD808BMR]

Originally Posted by Felix@europassion

Please guys

lets work this together k...

any compromise on shipping costs?

[Felix@europassion]

GUys,

I dont know if it works for you guys.
just want to show you guys that Iam paying the shippment to Nyc.

as you know how much each persons that I charged(2nd hartge,hamann,and acs and Mb buyers)

benz buyers USD$100.00 each bumpers
1 bumper free for my friend Ahmad aka Blackbenz


total shippment :USD$4754.00

and this is what my agent gave me:


Subject: shipment delay
From: all.jkt@oecgroup.com
Date: Sat, May 5, 2007 4:48 pm
To: felix@euro-passion.com
Cc: "PT. OEC FREIGHT INDONESIA" <oec@centrin.net.id>
Priority: Normal
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Dear Mr. Felix,

Pls find the attachment copy of invoice for your some shipments by our svc and hope
you can settle the payment until tommorow on Thursday May 07, 2007.
Apologize for delay your shipment to NYC until around two weeks due to your cargo
unbalance between weight and dimention so, much airlines refuse your cargo.

Best regards
Uung
PT. OEC FREIGHT INDONESIA
Hayam Wuruk Plaza Tower, 8th fl., suite J
Jl. Hayam Wuruk No. 108, Jakarta 11160, Indonesia
Tel : (62-21) 659 8838, Fax : (62-21) 659 8848
email : all.jkt@oecgroup.com
website : www.oecgroup.com

[Spazdoc]

does that mean Felix is getting reimbursed for shipping and thus we all will be reimbursed some protion (not including packaging)?

[montreal_bimmer]

i think we canadians should be treated the same way.... we should be reimbursed our shipping to vancouver....

[c1pinang]

I assume that the "tracking your ACS GB" was deleted by Felix to consolidate things here.

Anyways, I recently posted a thread requesting Lucid4000 to post the all the receipts and let us (ACS buyers) know how much we owe him for the customs, gas, tolls, trucks, etc.

Lucid has been great in taking care the shipping arrangement, and I thank him for that! He told me that he should be able to tell us how much $ we owe him by tomorrow.

This is a question for Felix:

"GUys, I dont know if it works for you guys.
just want to show you guys that Iam paying the shippment to Nyc"

What did you mean by this? Does it mean that you are going to reimburse/compensate us for the shipping charges to NYC because of the extensive delay?

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by Felix@europassion

as I promised them before that Ill pay 2 buyers from san diego and matt.

Just to clarify: Matt and Collanrf are in the SD area, who's the 3rd person? Is it BeeMdUbU?? Also, what about the San Jose buyers?? I also thought that you would cover half of shipping to the Hawaiian buyers

[Lucid4000]

ok guys I figured it all out. it comes out to $30 per kit. that's including all customs and other charges (truck, driver, gas, tolls). if you would like to private message me ill try and answer them asap. that price does not include shipping o you. if you have a single lip (hartge or acs) its $70 for ground ups. anyone with a full kit pm me and ill give you your shipping.

[dmm325]

is it normal for shipping to $70? i thought i remember lucid talking that i was only going to be around $30 or $40.

anyways, when do you want us to paypal you the money? Leave your paypal address and ill send you the money, cause i want my lip.

[Collanrf]

Originally Posted by BMWE90

Just to clarify: Matt and Collanrf are in the SD area, who's the 3rd person? Is it BeeMdUbU?? Also, what about the San Jose buyers?? I also thought that you would cover half of shipping to the Hawaiian buyers

I think the other member is Alx4n.

[shadowcoder]

Originally Posted by Lucid4000

ok guys I figured it all out. it comes out to $30 per kit. that's including all customs and other charges (truck, driver, gas, tolls). if you would like to private message me ill try and answer them asap. that price does not include shipping o you. if you have a single lip (hartge or acs) its $70 for ground ups. anyone with a full kit pm me and ill give you your shipping.

I don't understand how from $20 customs which you had said few days ago,
it went up to $30. What exactly are the "other" charges of truck, driver, gas,
tolls?

Can you please provide your customs invoice as well as the list of people
for who you got boxes for as I requested?

While Felix is supposed to be taking care of my shipping, the shipping using
a ground service can NOT be flat fee of $70. First of all it varies by weight,
dimensions and of course from where it is going to where. Given the size
of the boxes and their weight it can not cost more than $40-$50 to ship from
NY to CA. And for people closer like Florida, Illinois etc it can not be more
than $30-$40. But $70 for ground ups for a single lip? If ups is too expensive,
then you should be using Fedex.

[BMW F22]

Originally Posted by Collanrf

I think the other member is Alx4n.

So does that mean he's not paying for shipping to the buyers in San Jose??
Is this the case Felix???

[BeeEmDubU]

Originally Posted by shadowcoder

I don't understand how from $20 customs which you had said few days ago,
it went up to $30. What exactly are the "other" charges of truck, driver, gas,
tolls?

Can you please provide your customs invoice as well as the list of people
for who you got boxes for as I requested?

I wouldnt mind chipping in a little extra for Lucid for all his troubles. I dont think he got paid or anything to do this. Who cares what the "other" charges are? Is $10 that much to you?

Lucid, can you provide the list of names of all the lips and let us know who needs to pay extra for shipping? I took over BMWE90's order. Thanks!

[canucklion]

seriously, Lucid is taking the initiative in organizing this, you want to nickle and dime him?? how about him writing down how much time he's spent on organizing this and charging you guys for it? gas?

Originally Posted by BeeEmDubU

I wouldnt mind chipping in a little extra for Lucid for all his troubles. I dont think he got paid or anything to do this. Who cares what the "other" charges are? Is $10 that much to you?

Lucid, can you provide the list of names of all the lips and let us know who needs to pay extra for shipping? I took over BMWE90's order. Thanks!

[shadowcoder]

Originally Posted by BeeEmDubU

I wouldnt mind chipping in a little extra for Lucid for all his troubles. I dont think he got paid or anything to do this. Who cares what the "other" charges are? Is $10 that much to you?

Lucid, can you provide the list of names of all the lips and let us know who needs to pay extra for shipping? I took over BMWE90's order. Thanks!

First of all let me say that I am grateful to Lucid for doing all this. Like I
would have been if it was anyone else. And I trust everyone else would
have been to me if I were to handle this.

Now let me make some things clear since you took over someone else's order
and you don't know the history. BMWE90 and I volunteered to handle this
when the lips were supposed to reach CA. But then Felix changed the
location from CA to NY for everyone. Lucid, volunteered to handle this.
If he needed money to do this or he had costs other than the customs
fees, then I should know about it beforehand so that I can make a decision.

In addition, if there are other costs incurred because many GBs were
combined, and Felix took Lucid for a ride, then this is between Felix and
Lucid. None of my concern or my business. And neither I am in a position
to know what Felix and Lucid have agreed with each other. And neither
can anyone else for that matter.

Now, do I have a problem with giving more money? Well as I said, in a
previous post, if we are talking about $5 then I really don't care and we
can split this evenly. Now that it is $10 more instead of $5 more, I probably
don't have a problem either but I want to clearly know for WHAT I am
giving my money and I would like to see the customs invoice along with
the list of people for which he received boxes for.

Besides I wouldn't expect people to ask me anything less if I were to handle
this.

[Minipuck V 2.0]

wat a mess ...