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07-24-2012, 12:52 PM | #89 |
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Comparing those results, if they were in your favor, would pretty much silence the naysayers. That's a keynote if, and do enjoy the innuendos
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07-25-2012, 04:11 AM | #93 |
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07-25-2012, 04:32 PM | #94 |
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Will there be a big difference btw 5' and 7' performance wise?
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The gains will mostly be experienced on someone maxing out the stock turbos (pushing them out of their efficiency range) or on upgraded turbo/turbos. Otherwise you won't really notice much of a difference.
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07-25-2012, 04:45 PM | #96 |
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So how about that group buy?
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07-25-2012, 04:48 PM | #97 |
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Just waiting to take some pics of the intercooler to make an official post & we'll be ready to go! We've been incredibly busy lately with record sales so it's hard to find time for the little things!
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07-25-2012, 05:25 PM | #99 |
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OP, so no logs?
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07-27-2012, 07:58 AM | #101 |
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Any Logs Yet????
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As a casual observer with no skin in the game (still running stock IC but will be in the market soon for an upgrade and I am ALL FOR supporting new vendors and creating competition) but I'm disappointed that VRSF isn't taking a more data-driven approach here to marketing their new product.
Seems to me they're hiding behind the "all logs are different" defense. Step up to the plate, spend some R&D money to buy competitor FMICs, do a head-to-head comparo, then post the results. It's kind of funny that you scoff at doing that. . Hell, even if the more expensive options beat you out you can still justify it by saying how much cheaper your product is and making the case that the extra $400+ isn't justified by the incremental improvement in performance. Instead, by dodging the data collection, you've made me very skeptical of your product and given me the impression you're just targeting the "anything is better than stock" crowd...a bucket I certainly don't put myself into and not a sustainable business strategy IMO. Until I see some data, I'll be saving my pennies for a Helix unit.
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^ agree. If they are a "so called" company that does R&D then what's spending a couple thousand and buying up some competitors Intercoolers and testing them on the same car in the same conditions. That alone will boost your sales, speak for your work and pay for itself.
But that is just using Their logic of testing. lol |
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Sure, it would be nice to see but shitting all over VRSF for not doing something that no one else has done either is BS. Helix offered to do an "independent" test if other companies lent out their ICs and no other company jumped in. If anything, people should be calling for this comparison and not for one company to shell out thousands to to run one themselves. VRSF has a good rep elsewhere for their products and FMICs. Go do a Google search if you want to see some data, plenty of forums with happy customers. If you can't, or won't, do that then shut up and wait till the FMIC hits the market. There will be plenty of people who will provide logs, good or bad. |
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the difference here is that Helix, et. al. are already industry incumbents with tons of data out there to support their products so they don't have to do their own testing...they already have a reputation with their intercooler. That is part of the cost of doing business of being "fast" follow-on like VRSF...much of the actual R&D has been done for you by those established in that space-your challenge is breaking into market and making a reputation for yourself. Marketing 101 lesson over.
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