[HeavyMetalRocker]

Two are always better than one! let's examine this shall we... I'd rather have two balls than one (twice as much fun and twice the speed of recovery rate in bed), two boobs on my girlfriend (because a cyclops boob would be scary and weird), two beers instead of one (because double fisting is cooler than fist pumping with your spare hand), two eyes (see cyclops boob for explanation), two bass drums (see my screen name)... I think I've made my point very clear! :-D

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by Dave W.

Yes indeed, being held accountable is very important. Here's your statement;

You have quicker hands than I

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by Vargasturbotech

Shiv, please bring to light this erroneous post I made claiming the twins spooled as quickly as your single. It would have been on either forum, so a copy and paste is an easy one. Its about time you are held responsible for what you write as far as spinning facts, as you have not been for a very long time. Make sure I said what you are claiming I said, and not something along the lines of they spool similar, except our turbos flow quite a bit more, etc. You just said I made the claim that our stage 3 spools as fast as your single. I will anxiously await seeing where I said that. Thanks..

I'm not trying to be a jerk but how can you not remember typing this:

You wrote (on this forum):
"Here is an overlay of the (Vishnu/FFtec) ST 58 which is the smaller turbo which is going to spool faster then there (sic) 62 meaning more torque earlier. As you can see the torque curves are near identical until 4250 where our turbos just pull away. Keep in mind, this single is maxed out between 620-640 HP where our turbos are rated for 425 each so 850 worth of flow potential. Yet they spool as fast as the 58"

Thanks Dave W

[805beemer]

Originally Posted by skinrock

You have quicker hands than I

Still trying to sell that Vishnu single turbo kit I see. Going to be an even harder sell now that vargas released pricing on their stage 3's. If I were you I'd hold on to it, might be worth something someday

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by 805beemer

Still trying to sell that Vishnu single turbo kit I see. Going to be an even harder sell now that vargas released pricing on their stage 3's.

Why am I worried about a $7000 kit that doesn't include all the hardware, and is only good till Friday? My kit includes Procede, meth, intercooler, chargepipe and Forge DVs, but hey - thanks for the plug.

[Dave W.]

Originally Posted by skinrock

You have quicker hands than I

haha, and I had time to edit the post for grammar!

[guru_method]

There no more room for discussion, only one way to settle this...






TO THE DRAG STRIP!!!

[CBR335]

Originally Posted by Crazylegs

Yes I have. Just still after years on this forum every thread is an argument never an actual discussion. An I find it funny, but it's these threads that push this platform forward so I'm all for it.

Just Keeping the punch bowl full

Ahhh, after a year away from this board, it is good to know nothing has changed.

[Sick335]

I live one broken half shaft at a time...

[Tony@vargasturbotech]

Originally Posted by jippii ensio

Air enters from the front of the car but the rear turbo inlet points to the rear, i.e. the opposite direction. Air has made a full 180 degrees turn when it enters the rear turbo.

Bahahaha. Ok

[Dave W.]

Have datalogs been posted anywhere yet?

[AltecBX]

I'm making a comparison to the turbo's in this market. This is just getting crazy in the forums.
Tuners, send me info on them. (Price, kit, size, power,etc)

[New JerZ]

tony, dont post shit else until you have your glory runs on full race gas and meth so the power curves, afr, timing, ect is dead on perfect. Thats how the single kit was marketed when it was developed so fair is fair. You have nothing to prove here IMO, 99 percent of these people posting didnt buy a single turbo solution and likely the same amount are not in the market for a stage 3 solution so dont let them piss on your parade. This kit is a tremendous achievement and will be the main choice for people looking to push this platform to the limits. I would be curious to see dyno results from the first week of tuning on the singles (pre production vs pre production) and I think the results speak for themselves. Also keep in mind that the tuning is being done remotely with limited time on the dyno. Tony keep up the great work, when your done with this end of the project and have time to look into the 135i fitment I am greatly interested.

[skinrock]

Originally Posted by Vargasturbotech

Man the logic on this site sometimes is mind blowing.

I was comparing to my personal sale, which 805beemer was targeting, if that wasn't clear.

edit: Sorry for going off-topic. This thread is about spool-up. I only entered because Dave W. found exactly what I was going to post (which hasn't been responded to). It doesn't even make sense to be comparing intro pricing.

[themyst]

Originally Posted by New JerZ

tony, dont post shit else until you have your glory runs on full race gas and meth so the power curves, afr, timing, ect is dead on perfect. Thats how the single kit was marketed when it was developed so fair is fair. You have nothing to prove here IMO, 99 percent of these people posting didnt buy a single turbo solution and likely the same amount are not in the market for a stage 3 solution so dont let them piss on your parade. This kit is a tremendous achievement and will be the main choice for people looking to push this platform to the limits. I would be curious to see dyno results from the first week of tuning on the singles (pre production vs pre production) and I think the results speak for themselves. Also keep in mind that the tuning is being done remotely with limited time on the dyno. Tony keep up the great work, when your done with this end of the project and have time to look into the 135i fitment I am greatly interested.

Well said

[yandy]

Originally Posted by New JerZ

tony, dont post shit else until you have your glory runs on full race gas and meth so the power curves, afr, timing, ect is dead on perfect. Thats how the single kit was marketed when it was developed so fair is fair. You have nothing to prove here IMO, 99 percent of these people posting didnt buy a single turbo solution and likely the same amount are not in the market for a stage 3 solution so dont let them piss on your parade. This kit is a tremendous achievement and will be the main choice for people looking to push this platform to the limits. I would be curious to see dyno results from the first week of tuning on the singles (pre production vs pre production) and I think the results speak for themselves. Also keep in mind that the tuning is being done remotely with limited time on the dyno. Tony keep up the great work, when your done with this end of the project and have time to look into the 135i fitment I am greatly interested.

This

[BoostedE90]

Originally Posted by New JerZ

tony, dont post shit else until you have your glory runs on full race gas and meth so the power curves, afr, timing, ect is dead on perfect. Thats how the single kit was marketed when it was developed so fair is fair. You have nothing to prove here IMO, 99 percent of these people posting didnt buy a single turbo solution and likely the same amount are not in the market for a stage 3 solution so dont let them piss on your parade. This kit is a tremendous achievement and will be the main choice for people looking to push this platform to the limits. I would be curious to see dyno results from the first week of tuning on the singles (pre production vs pre production) and I think the results speak for themselves. Also keep in mind that the tuning is being done remotely with limited time on the dyno. Tony keep up the great work, when your done with this end of the project and have time to look into the 135i fitment I am greatly interested.

Originally Posted by themyst

Well said

Originally Posted by yandy

This

[Jeff@TopGearSolutions]

I dont know why everyone is out to get these cars on the dyno? What is it going to prove? They both have a handful of turbo options and it's just a different way to kill a chicken like anything else. There will always be something to bicker about. The wheels arent the same. The tires arent the same. The car has more mileage... blah blah. The injectors were recently recalled. The fuel pump is on the fritz.....

You either want a single turbo setup or a twin turbo setup.....

Only on e90 post....

[Dmacc]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I dont know why everyone is out to get these cars on the dyno? What is it going to prove? They both have a handful of turbo options and it's just a different way to kill a chicken like anything else. There will always be something to bicker about. The wheels arent the same. The tires arent the same. The car has more mileage... blah blah. The injectors were recently recalled. The fuel pump is on the fritz.....

You either want a single turbo setup or a twin turbo setup.....

Only on e90 post....

+1 to that

[AK 335i]

Originally Posted by Jeff@TopGearSolutions

I dont know why everyone is out to get these cars on the dyno? What is it going to prove? They both have a handful of turbo options and it's just a different way to kill a chicken like anything else. There will always be something to bicker about. The wheels arent the same. The tires arent the same. The car has more mileage... blah blah. The injectors were recently recalled. The fuel pump is on the fritz.....

You either want a single turbo setup or a twin turbo setup.....

Only on e90 post....

+2

[jippii ensio]

Originally Posted by New JerZ

tony, dont post shit else until you have your glory runs on full race gas and meth so the power curves, afr, timing, ect is dead on perfect. Thats how the single kit was marketed when it was developed so fair is fair. You have nothing to prove here IMO, 99 percent of these people posting didnt buy a single turbo solution and likely the same amount are not in the market for a stage 3 solution so dont let them piss on your parade. This kit is a tremendous achievement and will be the main choice for people looking to push this platform to the limits. I would be curious to see dyno results from the first week of tuning on the singles (pre production vs pre production) and I think the results speak for themselves. Also keep in mind that the tuning is being done remotely with limited time on the dyno. Tony keep up the great work, when your done with this end of the project and have time to look into the 135i fitment I am greatly interested.

Tony has a business to run and because he posted the results proving that his concept works he is now getting cash flow in. Not releasing the info would have delayed the project by three weeks until Jake flies in and more people would have ended up with an alternative upgrade since its spring already and sales are picking up. So in short, what you are saying does not make sense at all. What did he lose? Nothing. Quite the opposite. He won a lot.