[Patton250]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

huh, so you just ignore the actual facts and studies posted on here about carbon emissions and its impact on climate changes and how its been proven by actual data collected by NASA, MIT, EPA and all sorts of other non biased agencies and scientist and go with what some dude said on Joe Rogan podcast or Youtube said about it being some sort of hoax ? or that we shouldn't even try to slow it down cuz your freedom of choice is in jeopardy ?

Yeah, because the people you trust have never been wrong before on massively important worldwide things right? Never?

K

We should just stop man. However, I appreciate you proving my point. Thank you.

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by Patton250

Yeah, because the people you trust have never been wrong before on massively important worldwide things right? Never?

K

We should just stop man. However, I appreciate you proving my point. Thank you.

and what would those things be and who are these people?

yeah you should just stop..the only thing you have proven is your ignorance when it comes to EV's and the effects carbon emissions have on the planet.


god forbid you actually look into it

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

and what would those things be and who are these people?

yeah you should just stop..the only thing you have proven is your ignorance when it comes to EV's and the effects carbon emissions have on the planet.


god forbid you actually look into it

I have a feeling that everyone one the planet that disagrees with you or holds a different opinion is ignorant in your eyes.

Keep in mind those same people that you seem to look up to absolutely insisted we were going to go through another Ice Age not too long ago. There are many articles from them in the late 1970s and early 1980s. So there’s that.

[Socal_R8]

Originally Posted by gonzo

Scientists you say...
Trust and obey.


•Transmission of the disease—wrong
• Asymptomatic spread—wrong
• PCR testing—wrong
• Fatality rate—wrong
• Lockdowns—wrong
• Community triggers—wrong
• Business closures—wrong
• School closures—wrong
• Quarantining healthy people—wrong
• Impact on youth—wrong
• Hospital overload—wrong
• Plexiglass barriers—wrong
• Social distancing—wrong
• Outdoor spread—wrong
• Masks—wrong
• Variant impact—wrong
• Natural immunity—wrong
• Vaccine efficacy—wrong
• Vaccine injury—wrong


I aM tHe $ciEncE!!!

keep watching that Fox News my friend...you can see it has done you wonders so far....

btw, were talking about climate change and carbon emissions, not some sort of anti-vaxxer's go to list of covid denial

lets try to stay on track ...

[chad86tsi]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

So who is forcing you to buy an EV TODAY??? No one...

A take it you aren't following my point, so I'll repost it:

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

Worrying about any of it in 2023 is a waste of time

Originally Posted by chad86tsi

People care because this 12 year goal is already impacting them.

It's like telling a child in first grade they don't need to worry about doing well in school or even pay attention to what those adults in charge are doing because they won't graduate for 12 years.

It's short sighted and misses the fact that it's a continuum of change, it has already begun, and some of these adults in charge are morons.

You will be able to drive your school bus until the wheels fall off....and then buy another one after that in 2034 and drive that until what 2050, 2060? you still alive then?

You have that in writing? I'll surely be alive in 2060.

Do you really think we should just ignore studies by NASA, MIT, EPA, etc just so you can keep buying what you want for the rest of your life? Should we just ignore speed limits and drive as fast as we want also?
Or should we try to what is truly best for this planet ?

Don't be hyperbolic please. I'm not ignoring it. I'm studying it, and all the proposed solutions. EV's aren't the best answer to the problem, but it's the one that's getting the most effort, laws, and taxpayer funds. What is truly best for our planet is a whole slew of other things we aren't doing or spending money/effort on.

It is still a long long way away before you won't be able to still enjoy a gas powered car....trust me, they will outlive you and me

They might.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Ahhhh gonna be a great morning commute in an awesome ev.

I love you 2035

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by SoCal_NSX

In what ways?

How is Chevy announcing that they will be full electric by 2035 impacting you?

Or some states announcing they won't sell new ICE vehicles starting in 2035?


This isn't some sort of conspiracy by Bill Gates to reduce the population, this is about taking steps in the right direction to help preserve our planet for our great grandchildren and beyond ....you should have seen what the air looked like in LA in the 70's and 80's before we finally started taking steps in the right direction

https://climate.nasa.gov/news/3134/r...efits-by-2030/

https://www.epa.gov/greenvehicles/el...-vehicle-myths

https://content.sierraclub.org/evguide/myths-vs-reality

I guess the children and grandchildren mining cobalt don't matter...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...esla-more.html

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...balt&FORM=VDRE

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...greener-future

You should see what life looks like for these kids.

[chris719]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

I guess the children and grandchildren mining cobalt don't matter...

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...esla-more.html

https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q...balt&FORM=VDRE

https://www.theguardian.com/environm...greener-future

You should see what life looks like for these kids.

Cobalt is being phased out of battery chemistries anyway.

If cobalt mining is the worst thing you can pull out here, then it seems like a clear winner. The global impact of climate change is going to be destructive to far more people. I never heard a peep about cobalt, tantalum, and other conflict mineral mining (both widely used in electronics for 40+ years) from this crowd until EVs became a political item.

[Tejas1836]

Just keep your head in the sand and keep pretending it doesn't exist. Not your kids, so what.
First time I've heard child slave labor "a clear winner".
Lithium mining is raping the earth.
Windmills are killing whales and endangered birds.
Over 20 million American families are behind on their electricity bills.
Utility companies will need almost $6,000 per EV to upgrade the infrastructure.
Damn sure it is a political, social fight.

[M5Rick]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Ahhhh gonna be a great morning commute in an awesome ev.

I love you 2035

You'll be older and wiser to stick with the M3 and dump the EV before it becomes worthless and pollutes the planet with dead batteries that can't be re-cycled

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by M5Rick

You'll be older and wiser to stick with the M3 and dump the EV before it becomes worthless and pollutes the planet with dead batteries that can't be re-cycled

I don't give a fucking shit about the planet. You guys are probably right about EV's being worse for the environment. That's not why i got one.

It's happening and there's nothing we can do about it. Might as well just try to find one you like and accept it

[KRS_SN]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I do give a fucking shit about the planet. You guys are probably right about EV's being worse for the environment. That's one of the reasons why i aint got one.

It's happening and it is not like there's nothing we can do about it. Might as well just try to hold up a middle finger to it till you absolutely have to.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

I don't give a fucking shit about the planet. You guys are probably right about EV's being worse for the environment. That's not why i got one.

It's happening and there's nothing we can do about it. Might as well just try to find one you like and accept it

Wow, how sad

[M5Rick]

Very good differences of opinion from everyone, we're getting into every nook and cranny about the pros and cons of EV's and from my perspective there are far more cons.
To recap, the biggest con with me is the way the EV programmes were brought in with many underlying issues being steamrollered over and blatantly ignored.
Keep them coming guys

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

Wow, how sad

Why is it sad?

We’ll all be dead by the time you see any effects from the “ev world”.

I don’t have kids so I couldn’t give a shit less. Even if I did I’ll be long gone before anything worse happens to this world.

What’s worse is what’s going on in the world with wars and all that shit not fucking electric cars wtf lol

[Burrcold]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Why is it sad?

We’ll all be dead by the time you see any effects from the “ev world”.

I don’t have kids so I couldn’t give a shit less. Even if I did I’ll be long gone before anything worse happens to this world.

What’s worse is what’s going on in the world with wars and all that shit not fucking electric cars wtf lol

You've got a serious screw loose.

[Tejas1836]

Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

Why is it sad?

We’ll all be dead by the time you see any effects from the “ev world”.

I don’t have kids so I couldn’t give a shit less. Even if I did I’ll be long gone before anything worse happens to this world.

What’s worse is what’s going on in the world with wars and all that shit not fucking electric cars wtf lol

There you go. Having children or not but not caring about the well being of others, especially children, is very self centered, narcissistic and one of the reasons things seem to be pretty screwed up right now.

[G35POPPEDMYCHERRY]

you know even after me attacking BGM which is probably deserved. I think he's probably a chill guy. He's doing all this because yall are getting so triggered by it. feeding the troll. hes got plenty of different cars in his stable so clearly he likes both types of car. alas I tip my hat to you BGM, epic level trolling.

[Murf the Surf]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

you know even after me attacking BGM which is probably deserved. I think he's probably a chill guy. He's doing all this because yall are getting so triggered by it. feeding the troll. hes got plenty of different cars in his stable so clearly he likes both types of car. alas I tip my hat to you BGM, epic level trolling.

Maybe, but is this the forum to be trolling?

[lens]

Originally Posted by Tejas1836

There you go. Having children or not but not caring about the well being of others, especially children, is very self centered, narcissistic and one of the reasons things seem to be pretty screwed up right now.

Well, I mean you're not wrong.

Caring about people doesn't pay the bills nor make you money.

There's a reason why you have millionaires/billionaires. You start caring about people and their wellbeing, and you're no longer a millionaire/billionaire

This is how the world currently operates, you gotta backstab people to move further up the chain.

The people who has some sense of morals or any care, aren't super rich.

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by G35POPPEDMYCHERRY

you know even after me attacking BGM which is probably deserved. I think he's probably a chill guy. He's doing all this because yall are getting so triggered by it. feeding the troll. hes got plenty of different cars in his stable so clearly he likes both types of car. alas I tip my hat to you BGM, epic level trolling.

Although most of the stuff I say I mean. Like what I said above about the planet. Like who the fuck cares in 50 years? I’ll be 90. I hope to be dead by then. I couldn’t care less if aliens came and destroyed every human they saw the first 24 hours lmaooooo

Good luck to everyone’s children children lol

[BGM-M3COMP]

Originally Posted by Murf the Surf

Maybe, but is this the forum to be trolling?

And making fun of ev isn’t trolling?

You’re trolling a subject you have NO CONTROL over.

So you’re basically posting in these threads to whine and complain .

That’s amusing lmaooo