[Bubbles]

Get ready to whip out that gas card. I can't get more that 8mpg out of that car.

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

Good point.

Although, while Rev. 2 is probably the better overall setup for the Step., I do miss being blind-sided by that tidwave of torque.

Wouldn't it be a better overall scientific evaluation of the differences between the two versions to test out Rev. 1 again after a lengthy stint with Rev. 2?

Part of me doesn't want to hassle with the ECU removal and such at this point, with the C63 arriving in March.

[CFM3]

that C63 is going to be a lot of fun. I was just about to get one this summer when I was car shopping as the dealer here. The 40 mile commute doesn't really lend itself to that mpg though . The car is a beast.

[Kelvin1000]

Let's just hope that they don't or have not already altered the boost in the original version. Let's remember that it is less boost / different timing that we are all concerned about not the throttle response issue.

Either way, it can't hurt to do it because we ca always go back to revision 2 if both versions are now retuned.

I think in a clue might be to figure out if the decision 1 is still not compliant in all 50 states.

If anyone at Dinan is reading... PLEASE don't change anything about the original!!!

[canesr1]

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Let's just hope that they don't or have not already altered the boost in the original version. Let's remember that it is less boost / different timing that we are all concerned about not the throttle response issue.

Either way, it can't hurt to do it because we ca always go back to revision 2 if both versions are now retuned.

I think in a clue might be to figure out if the decision 1 is still not compliant in all 50 states.

If anyone at Dinan is reading... PLEASE don't change anything about the original!!!

I really want to do this but don't want to screw around with the ecu for nothing.
If any of you guys go back to the original Rev1(let's hope it really is REV1) PLEASE post your reviews.
I have a feeling that rev1 is detuned as well, since dinan is saying only throttle response is affected by rev2 and no changes were made otherwise....

[ybbiz34]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Get ready to whip out that gas card. I can't get more that 8mpg out of that car.

What do you mean? Do you have one?

Originally Posted by CFM3

that C63 is going to be a lot of fun. I was just about to get one this summer when I was car shopping as the dealer here. The 40 mile commute doesn't really lend itself to that mpg though . The car is a beast.

Indeed it is.

[dlbrooks18]

Originally Posted by Orb

I just came back from a presentation by Steve Dinan and I spoke with one on one for 15 minutes. The original post is nonsense and BMW doesn’t tell Dinan what to do in anyway. He explained Dinan relationship with BMW and there is no agreement of any sort but they do work together at warranty claims as it benefits them both. He mentioned the relationship between Dinan varies at time and depends on who is BMW NA president at the time. There is a new president at BMW NA as of two months ago. Steve is very much aware of these rumours like the one in this post and seemed to find them comical.

I did find out stage III peaks at 14.5 PSI and stronger throughout the whole range than stage II. The strut bar and air intake will be released next year.

Orb

Hmmm, peak boost of 14.5 psi and stronger throughout the whole range, so that's a pretty big difference from Stage II Rev II with a reported detuned peak of 12.8 psi.. so who out there has stage III and how do you like it? And it would be interesting to know if anyone with Stage III had Stage I or II before getting the III and how big a difference is the feel of the power increase?

[Kelvin1000]

Are there any stage 3 dynos out there?

[thekurgan]

Originally Posted by canesr1

Lucky? Come on dude. We payed GOOD money for this tune with a warranty. That's why most everyone goes with Dinan. If there was no warranty then I'm sure most of us would be with JB3 or vishnu.
Now take your ridiculous post somewhere else.
overpowered idiot.

You should have just gone with JB3 or Vishnu ...


"You are right. I would rather have the power too! I don't want a refund at all. I will keep this tune and enjoy it and hopefully just forget how much better rev1 was
I guess the best case scenario would be that my fuel pump will fail and be replaced under warranty by BMW and all my power will be back with the new pump
Until then, I'll just enjoy my REV2 POWER"

[canesr1]

[QUOTE=thekurgan;3756495]You should have just gone with JB3 or Vishnu ...


Yeah sure... vishnu/ jb3 then I would be left with limp modes and blown turbos...
Stay out of threads that you don't have anything useful to contribute to

[thekurgan]

[QUOTE=canesr1;3756615]

Originally Posted by thekurgan

You should have just gone with JB3 or Vishnu ...

Yeah sure... vishnu/ jb3 then I would be left with limp modes and blown turbos...
Stay out of threads that you don't have anything useful to contribute to

Well, Dinan keeps the tune so you car doesn't blow turbos and go into limp... pull your head out, stop whining and I will stick around this thread as long as I like as some of the posts are interesting, most, if not all, of yours are whiny.

[ybbiz34]

I've cleaned things up some, but this just serves as a friendly reminder to exclude personal attacks and name-calling from your posts.

Thanks.

[Kelvin1000]

Anyone send out for the "retro" flash yet???

[S4to335]

Originally Posted by ybbiz34

I've cleaned things up some, but this just serves as a friendly reminder to exclude personal attacks and name-calling from your posts.

Thanks.

What..it was just getting fun. BTW, I am a moderator at another car forum (Audiworld)...I fully understand.

[Kelvin1000]

Guys,

I just spoke with Chris over at Dinan to try to get the first revision back and he said that the don't want a bunch of people just sending in their computers so they will be posting a procedure shortly.

It's nice to see that the post actually got something accomplished.

Thanks to all who contributed. We still have a ways to go but we are making progress!!!

[sambonator]

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Guys,

I just spoke with Chris over at Dinan to try to get the first revision back and he said that the don't want a bunch of people just sending in their computers so they will be posting a procedure shortly.

It's nice to see that the post actually got something accomplished.

Thanks to all who contributed. We still have a ways to go but we are making progress!!!

So you confirmed with Dinan that they detuned their Stage 2 Performance Engine Software?

[Kelvin1000]

no, they keep telling me it's only a throttle response difference but I guess they will be offering the original for those who want it...

[Bubbles]

Well, I suspect there won't be a lot customers electing to go this route.

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Guys,

I just spoke with Chris over at Dinan to try to get the first revision back and he said that the don't want a bunch of people just sending in their computers so they will be posting a procedure shortly.

It's nice to see that the post actually got something accomplished.

Thanks to all who contributed. We still have a ways to go but we are making progress!!!

[canesr1]

Originally Posted by Bubbles

Well, I suspect there won't be a lot customers electing to go this route.

I will do it, I just don't want to be the guinea pig.
Hopefully someone gets it done and reports back here about whether it really is the ORIGINAL REV1.
Kelvin- You sending out your ecu?

[Bubbles]

Originally Posted by canesr1

I will do it, I just don't want to be the guinea pig.
Hopefully someone gets it done and reports back here about whether it really is the ORIGINAL REV1.
Kelvin- You sending out your ecu?

I'm your huckleberry, but it may take me some time.

[Kelvin1000]

Originally Posted by canesr1

I will do it, I just don't want to be the guinea pig.
Hopefully someone gets it done and reports back here about whether it really is the ORIGINAL REV1.
Kelvin- You sending out your ecu?

Yes, it's no big deal.

For some reason, the field tool can never communicate with my edu so I always had to send in my edu. This would be my third time but the Shop takes care of the process.

It does suck to be without the car for three days...

Besides that, what do we have to loose?

[canesr1]

Originally Posted by Kelvin1000

Yes, it's no big deal.

For some reason, the field tool can never communicate with my edu so I always had to send in my edu. This would be my third time but the Shop takes care of the process.

It does suck to be without the car for three days...
Besides that, what do we have to loose?

That won't bother me at all. being in PA it's getting cold/snowy/icy soon and my car will be garaged.
What is holding me up is messing with the ecu. I don't want to F anything up and knowing me, I will.

//going to search for a DIY on ecu removal now

[Kelvin1000]

Originally Posted by canesr1

That won't bother me at all. being in PA it's getting cold/snowy/icy soon and my car will be garaged.
What is holding me up is messing with the ecu. I don't want to F anything up and knowing me, I will.

//going to search for a DIY on ecu removal now

I am sure a Dinan dealer would do this for you...