-- Movies -- Vishnu V3.1 vs JB3

ducati955 · 07-23-2009, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

Rematch done! Thanks Big Tom had lots of fun !
Pity it was raining and traffic but we managed anyway hehe.
Amazing how our cars go exactly the same!
Videos will be posted soon!

idk if i missed something, but did u get it retuned or? to even out w him?

enrita · 07-23-2009, 06:21 PM

even out? i just improved my launching :-) always running map 7 .

enrita · 07-23-2009, 06:39 PM

no changes at all. no race gas . same boost

Big Tom · 07-23-2009, 06:47 PM

So now the re-race is done, and it's funny how even the cars are now when enrita changed to the new upgraded 1.4 map 7!

Here's from 50 km/h (Camera car is my car):

Another Re-Re-race will be done when I have removed my cats in the DP's...
So, stay tuned!

The summary is that JB3 and Vishnu are two VERY EVEN tuners (in performance), for those who might wonder.

enrita · 07-23-2009, 06:53 PM

looking forward to race when you remove your DPs cats to see the difference!

Terrance28 · 07-23-2009, 06:55 PM

Very very nice race.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-23-2009, 07:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

even out? i just improved my launching :-) always running map 7 .

Great runs guys and very close! Enrico, I told you the start was the problem all along!

Mike

jpsimon · 07-23-2009, 07:05 PM

Still catless dp's vs. catted. Big Tom, get rid of those things!!

enrita · 07-23-2009, 07:07 PM

we both have 1 set of cats so pretty much the same....

jpsimon · 07-23-2009, 07:10 PM

I think there would be a bigger difference than you think

enrita · 07-23-2009, 07:15 PM

yeah really big difference...

jpsimon · 07-23-2009, 07:17 PM

I'm not gonna argue with you, but I bet the outcome would be different if Big Tom had catless downpipes.

In other news, thanks both of you for the videos! They were some good runs indeed.

enrita · 07-23-2009, 07:23 PM

he is gonna put catless dps and it will be interesting to see the outcome . Big tom will be catless than so those 5hp more will do a big difference i guess.

dkvby · 07-23-2009, 07:35 PM

who cares what others say, just hv fun and be safe.

Mike@N54Tuning.com · 07-23-2009, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpsimon

I think there would be a bigger difference than you think

Not that it matters much but just as a fact Tom has 1 set high flow cats and Enrico has 1 set factory cats if I read correctly.

Mike

jpsimon · 07-23-2009, 07:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike@N54Tuning.com

Not that it matters much but just as a fact Tom has 1 set high flow cats and Enrico has 1 set factory cats if I read correctly.

Mike

Getting rid of the downpipe cats makes a bigger difference than taking out the 2nd set (especially at the boost levels they are running).

don't want to start an argument: you guys will most likely see a difference when he switches to catless downpipes. I'll just leave it at that.

dkvby · 07-23-2009, 07:40 PM

try run map8 too when he is on stg 3

enrita · 07-23-2009, 07:50 PM

he is already on Stage 3 and no it wont make any difference in my opinion. Boosting makes the difference. if you boost the same you will be running the same.

OpenFlash · 07-23-2009, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by enrita

he is already on Stage 3 and no it wont make any difference in my opinion. Boosting makes the difference. if you boost the same you will be running the same.

Not exactly true. Big Tom is running default ignition correction mapping (100%). To optimize his tune for max power (if he chooses to), he can reduce that value for more power without changing boost.

Shiv

enrita · 07-23-2009, 07:55 PM

ah ok so he would just burn me with the right settings LOL

Sparky66 · 07-23-2009, 07:57 PM

What it boils down to :

Big Tom = 100% ignition correction mapping + catted DP's

Enrita = 0% ignition correction mapping + catless DP's

yeah I'd say very even.........

enrita · 07-23-2009, 08:02 PM

is never going to be even in Shiv 's and fan boys perspectives ... thats the problem. we do this for fun and without tuning war but it always comes down to cheap excuses an the timinig marketing control which is getting really tiring lately...

07-23-2009, 06:21 PM	#134
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	even out? i just improved my launching :-) always running map 7 . __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	no changes at all. no race gas . same boost __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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07-23-2009, 06:47 PM	#136
Big Tom Banned 59 Rep 1,054 Posts Drives: 335i n54 e92 MT Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Västerås iTrader: (0)	So now the re-race is done, and it's funny how even the cars are now when enrita changed to the new upgraded 1.4 map 7! Here's from 50 km/h (Camera car is my car): Another Re-Re-race will be done when I have removed my cats in the DP's... So, stay tuned! The summary is that JB3 and Vishnu are two VERY EVEN tuners (in performance), for those who might wonder.
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enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	looking forward to race when you remove your DPs cats to see the difference! __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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Terrance28 Brigadier General 114 Rep 3,334 Posts Drives: Crimson Red E92 Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: Killeen, TX iTrader: (17)	Very very nice race. __________________ Mods list got too long, lets just say more than enough.
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07-23-2009, 07:05 PM	#140
jpsimon Team Zissou 3163 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	Still catless dp's vs. catted. Big Tom, get rid of those things!!
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07-23-2009, 07:07 PM	#141
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	we both have 1 set of cats so pretty much the same.... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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07-23-2009, 07:10 PM	#142
jpsimon Team Zissou 3163 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	I think there would be a bigger difference than you think
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07-23-2009, 07:15 PM	#143
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	yeah really big difference... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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07-23-2009, 07:17 PM	#144
jpsimon Team Zissou 3163 Rep 10,200 Posts Drives: 2022 AWD M3 Comp - SMB Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: CT iTrader: (7)	I'm not gonna argue with you, but I bet the outcome would be different if Big Tom had catless downpipes. In other news, thanks both of you for the videos! They were some good runs indeed.
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07-23-2009, 07:23 PM	#145
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	he is gonna put catless dps and it will be interesting to see the outcome . Big tom will be catless than so those 5hp more will do a big difference i guess. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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dkvby ☠☠☠☠☠ 21 Rep 684 Posts Drives: 07 Blk e92 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: HK iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	who cares what others say, just hv fun and be safe.
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dkvby ☠☠☠☠☠ 21 Rep 684 Posts Drives: 07 Blk e92 335i Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: HK iTrader: (3) Garage List 2007 335i Coupe [0.00]	try run map8 too when he is on stg 3
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07-23-2009, 07:50 PM	#150
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	he is already on Stage 3 and no it wont make any difference in my opinion. Boosting makes the difference. if you boost the same you will be running the same. __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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07-23-2009, 07:55 PM	#152
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	ah ok so he would just burn me with the right settings LOL __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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07-23-2009, 07:57 PM	#153
Sparky66 Major 60 Rep 1,230 Posts Drives: 335 E92 Coupe. Jet Black. Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	What it boils down to : Big Tom = 100% ignition correction mapping + catted DP's Enrita = 0% ignition correction mapping + catless DP's yeah I'd say very even.........
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07-23-2009, 08:02 PM	#154
enrita Major General 161 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	is never going to be even in Shiv 's and fan boys perspectives ... thats the problem. we do this for fun and without tuning war but it always comes down to cheap excuses an the timinig marketing control which is getting really tiring lately... __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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