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      01-21-2008, 01:56 PM   #1
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Im Loving My V2 Dynos compared with M&M

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As we all know i had a mess with my install of DP and exhaust, thanks to Shiv for helping me out The installer fixed his mistakes today and myself and M&M went for a couple of dyno runs.

My car V2.0.2 96% Pump Fuel DP Exhaust K&N
Adding 10% for sea level conversion my numbers are
350 WHP
445 WTQ

As we know the intake is probably the restriction for me getting more power.
Ill post another dyno showing how much power M&M gained with his dual cone install, damn the induction is really constricting just like shiv has always said.

Those of you guys who are blaming the V2 should look at the proof at how much you gain from a proper induction, shiv is spot on when he said 350 WHP is the max without induction. Stop blaming the procede and listen to what shiv has said MANY times - Standard air box is a killer for our cars.

My Dyno after the installer fixed my o2 sensors

Couple of videos of my car on the dyno bad quality cause it was with my cell phone sorry wish you could hear how amazing the exhaust sounds in real life


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      01-21-2008, 02:00 PM   #2
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Now this shows how much M&M gained with dual cone filter intake his power is the same as mine with V2 at 96% come on this is proof how much the induction helps, im going to buy two cone filters and do the same install and dyno again and show everyone the difference and how it is restricting my car. Good numbers M&M your car sounds hot

Here is a link to a video of his induction.


M&M - Solid Line - V1.47, Dual Cone Induction, DP and Exhaust
My Car - Dotted Line - V2.0.2,K&N Drop In only , DP and Exhaust

M&M Gained 16 WHP from his last dyno just adding the dual cone induction
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your only getting 350 whp with the V2 at 96% with Down pipes and exhaust?? that doesnt sound too good.......
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Hey guys don't forget these are uncorrected numbers at 5500 feet elevation. And it was pretty warm today with very high humidity as we dyno'd while it was raining. But I asked the operator for no correction.

Thomas, your car sounds INSANE! And its fast as hell on the road as well.
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yea but these are still numbers that the original xede could of done,or even a procede.The v2 was supposed to break 400whp and now Shiv has a dyno of a car on 91 oct making 390whp.Why do I have the feeling that no regular customer will ever reproduce those numbers on his car?Its a hype dyno run just like the ones he did back in the day with the xede.He has made this power with the exede and with procede and v2 was supposed to break 400.

So with what you saying is that with an aa exede and and intake we can make 370whp?or even with a juice box?we already know the intakes make power up top,people bought the v2s to make that power with no other mods.
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your only getting 350 whp with the V2 at 96% with Down pipes and exhaust?? that doesnt sound too good.......


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Those of you guys who are blaming the V2 should look at the proof at how much you gain from a proper induction, shiv is spot on when he said 350 WHP is the max without induction. Stop blaming the procede and listen to what shiv has said MANY times - Standard air box is a killer for our cars.
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your only getting 350 whp with the V2 at 96% with Down pipes and exhaust?? that doesnt sound too good.......
Like Shiv has said a million times lol intake is the restriction at 350 WHP
Im positive if i see how much M&M gained with dual cones ill gain 20 - 25 WHP with the dual cone install. He gained 16 WHP with V1.47 and V2 is REALLY restricted by the intake. I will do the same induction as M&M and post the difference im positive it will be between 20 - 25 WHP
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yea but these are still numbers that the original xede could of done,or even a procede.The v2 was supposed to break 400whp and now Shiv has a dyno of a car on 91 oct making 390whp.Why do I have the feeling that no regular customer will ever reproduce those numbers on his car?Its a hype dyno run just like the ones he did back in the day with the xede.He has made this power with the exede and with procede and v2 was supposed to break 400.

So with what you saying is that with an aa exede and and intake we can make 370whp?or even with a juice box?we already know the intakes make power up top,people bought the v2s to make that power with no other mods.
Those tunes do not all work the same, listen to your tuner or continue to speculate and not get the hp you want... simple as that.
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Those of you guys who are blaming the V2 should look at the proof at how much you gain from a proper induction, shiv is spot on when he said 350 WHP is the max without induction. Stop blaming the procede and listen to what shiv has said MANY times - Standard air box is a killer for our cars.
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Here's my car with V1.47 on another dyno before and after the dual cone. The after run looks like it lost a lot of torque. I first thought that it was heat soak from the VERY SMALL dyno fan and the cones sucking hot air. I think think that has something to do with it, but then I realised it was also WHEELSPINNING on the dyno and maybe that's why we didn't get a proper reading low down. These are also uncorrected.

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yea but these are still numbers that the original xede could of done,or even a procede.The v2 was supposed to break 400whp and now Shiv has a dyno of a car on 91 oct making 390whp.Why do I have the feeling that no regular customer will ever reproduce those numbers on his car?Its a hype dyno run just like the ones he did back in the day with the xede.He has made this power with the exede and with procede and v2 was supposed to break 400.

So with what you saying is that with an aa exede and and intake we can make 370whp?or even with a juice box?we already know the intakes make power up top,people bought the v2s to make that power with no other mods.
Have you seen numbers of a xede at 5500ft or any other piggy back at this altitude?? NO lol im comparing apples with apples and V2 added a lot of power to my car just as promised
Im damn happy with the numbers im seeing at 5500ft uncorrected on a hot day while it was raining

Trust me M&M show them the graph of you dyno before you put the dual cones, damn those things made a HUGE difference and like shiv has said they help V2 even more, im expecting 375 WHP - 380WHP with the same induction as M&M thats damn damn good for this altitude and HIGH temperatures. Remember guys we live in sunny South Africa its damn hot here today needless to say i dont care if you turn this into a bashing match!!!

This post is to say THANK YOU SHIV YOUR PRODUCT IS GREAT AND FEELS AMAZING TO DRIVE, CANT WAIT FOR THE DP MAP IM SURE MY CAR WILL BE FLYING
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yea but these are still numbers that the original xede could of done,or even a procede.The v2 was supposed to break 400whp and now Shiv has a dyno of a car on 91 oct making 390whp.Why do I have the feeling that no regular customer will ever reproduce those numbers on his car?Its a hype dyno run just like the ones he did back in the day with the xede.He has made this power with the exede and with procede and v2 was supposed to break 400.
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FYI:

These are two different cars on the dyno, read more carefully... it was a 1.47 car that picked up 16hp.

The graph is a 1.47 car with intake vs. a 2.02 car w/ stock air box. Just further evidencing the fact that 2.02 requires very high flow in the top end as it is a powerful tune.
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Those are two different cars, read more carefully before you get sarcastic... it was a 1.47 car that picked up 16hp, that car ran 113.00 in the 1/4 on 1.47 by the way.

The graph is a 1.47 car with intake vs. a 2.02 car w/ stock air box. Just further evidencing the fact that 2.02 requires very high flow in the top end as it is a powerful tune.

+1000 Thats what im trying to show here!!! If V1.47 gained so much from dual cones i cant wait to install my induction. And trust me dont start comparing dynos of xede and the rest because you have no benchmark to compare at this altitude

Im comparing my dyno runs and my power has improved dramatically from V1 to V2 and im sure when i listen to shiv and replace the induction it will improve even more. If V1.47 gained 16 WHP i cant wait to see how much V2 will gain
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yea but these are still numbers that the original xede could of done,or even a procede.The v2 was supposed to break 400whp and now Shiv has a dyno of a car on 91 oct making 390whp.Why do I have the feeling that no regular customer will ever reproduce those numbers on his car?Its a hype dyno run just like the ones he did back in the day with the xede.He has made this power with the exede and with procede and v2 was supposed to break 400.
So with what you saying is that with an aa exede and and intake we can make 370whp?or even with a juice box?we already know the intakes make power up top,people bought the v2s to make that power with no other mods.
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Lol I delted it when I notived it was M&M and not the other guy, but that's not two different cars in that post.
ah ok i will delete mine~
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ah ok i will delete mine~
It was 2 different cars
Mine and M&M compared
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What was M&Ms baseline 1.47?
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Finally more people are seeing what Ihave seen for the past year.Shiv always posts a hype dyno right around when a new tuner comes in.He did it with AA,TT,SS and now right when jim c steped in Shiv busted out a 390whp dyno that no one will ever have.

I have just searced the xede archives and there plenty of cars making over 340-350whp...add an intake to those and you in the 360-370 ohh wait Shiv already broke 400whp with an xede lol buy his v3 for 370whp when his first piggy back could of made it.
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Come on guys if you want to compare other piggy back units show me one dyno done at high altitude so we can compare fairly

This is not a bashing post its to show how much WHP V1 gains from dual cone induction and that proves even MORE that V2 will gain 25 WHP!!!

You cant compare these numbers to other tuners because there isnt one dyno to compare them to!!!!!! Unfortunately the other tuners available have not gained enough popularity to find their way to South Africa, if i can find someone with anything but procede here ill pay for their dyno run and give you a fair comparison!!!!
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It was 2 different cars
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Yeah that's what I thought, I still edited mine because I'm just trying to get everyone polarized to the idea that we need intake if we expect to dyno how Shiv does... which wasn't 390 on this map, it was 390 on his new 2.1 map... it more like 370whp on this map with 93 octane which is possible for you with intake in my opinion.
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Finally more people are seeing what Ihave seen for the past year.Shiv always posts a hype dyno right around when a new tuner comes in.He did it with AA,TT,SS and now right when jim c steped in Shiv busted out a 390whp dyno that no one will ever have.

I have just searced the xede archives and there plenty of cars making over 340-350whp...add an intake to those and you in the 360-370 ohh wait Shiv already broke 400whp with an xede lol buy his v3 for 370whp when his first piggy back could of made it.
yay undermine the guy that has taken this community to this level and deny the difference between his car and the customer cars good job you are a true hero...
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