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05-25-2015, 07:05 PM | #1 |
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WG Rattle on cold start-Vacuum leak?
On cold starts, with the new firmware set to FUD-98, and even when it's not using the FUD settings (although not as bad), I have terrible rattle for about 15-20 seconds, then as it idles down, it goes away. Tapping the gas to high idle doesn't cause it to come back either when I'm just in neutral.
Would this be an indication of a vacuum leak? Maybe it rattles until vacuum has a chance to build up? I bought a vacuum gauge so I'll know soon enough if it's not holding vacuum, but thought I'd ask for some opinions.
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05-25-2015, 07:51 PM | #2 |
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So I hooked a T into the right vacuum canister, brought the vacuum to "normal at idle" and shut the car off. After 10-15 minutes, the reading has dropped 1.5 in/hg. From 28in/hg to 26.5in/hg.
Indication of a vacuum leak it appears. |
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I thought idle vacuum at the canisters was supposed to be between 22-25in/hg? ![]()
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05-25-2015, 08:13 PM | #5 |
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You seem fine. 28 is great. Think it drops to 25 or so after a minute or more of idle. Mine pulls 25 at idle. They are supposed to be 22-25.and hissing sound is good.
Even after 15mins its 26.5? Wow
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![]() Well, this is all coming up because of how bad my WG rattle is on startup for about 15-25 seconds. Which makes me think that once vacuum builds back up, the WG works normally, but until then, it has inconsistent vacuum. Thanks for checking that for me by the way!
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05-25-2015, 08:26 PM | #8 | |
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I really hope they test bad honestly, because i'd gladly slap new ones in to resolve some of the goofy issues I have at low throttle and rattle at idle like stated above, and on acceleration. Edit: I know how to do the solenoid test now. But it's dark outside so I'll test them suckers tomorrow!
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05-25-2015, 08:53 PM | #10 |
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My car has a wg rattle upon start up the same way u described. I always thought it was normal
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![]() I really hope they're bad, this might help explain the inconsistent boost at WOT, it'll fluctuate +/- 1-2psi, the rattle on acceleration, etc. I bought all new Verocious Motorsports silicone vacuum line (13ft) to replace them all anyway, so hopefully this all gets sorted. The line I bought is rated for high temp too so it's a nice replacement for the old lines there now.
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05-25-2015, 09:02 PM | #12 | |
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05-25-2015, 09:09 PM | #13 |
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Did you use BMW original? Or the other brand from ECS?
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05-25-2015, 09:22 PM | #14 |
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I got oem locally from getbmwparts. Its the same as Piersburg, which is cheaper and way to go.
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05-26-2015, 07:22 PM | #15 |
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Ok so I tested the firewall side solenoid. With menu 10 set to 5000RPM (full vacuum) I get 24in/hg. It should be ~30in/hg I believe is that correct?
Actually it looks like I'm only about 2in/hg under the example in the video on N54Tech. Not sure that it's enough to be concerned about. Last edited by 335NJ; 05-26-2015 at 07:48 PM.. |
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![]() Take a look at this, if you havent and let me know. This is how i checked. At idle, at 3k etc.
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05-26-2015, 08:32 PM | #17 | |
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Video at the top, and yeah that's the chart I was basing my 30in/hg comment from. |
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05-26-2015, 08:45 PM | #18 |
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Its cool you can adjust the sloenoid vacuum. Video shows 25 or so max, so seems you are ok. How about the other one?
Mine are about 17, stock (also seen in the document). Firewall was pulling 5in less so replaced it. 30 is not at the solenoid.
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Thanks again! I'm going to replace all of the vacuum lines this weekend if I don't get time this week, but figured I'd try to get a good baseline. |
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