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      04-10-2016, 09:47 PM   #1
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Bad FRM module?

Im getting various errors which i believe are linked to the FRM. The codes are:
CDA7
CDAB
D374
All those codes have something to do with the FRM in the description. Does it need to be recoded or is it shot?
Also my bmw is throwing this code: 2D1B. My code reader says its the accelerator pedal module (pedal position sensor signal 1). I have a half engine light and reduced power. Can the throttle body also be toast?
Can the FRM also affect the throttle issue?
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      04-10-2016, 11:03 PM   #2
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if an frm is.bad non of your light n windows will work. now as dar as the errors. you cam clear them out

the frm hasnt have to anything do wit the trhotle
Aside from those errors, the windows and turn signals dont work, should i look into getting a new module? will a dealer program a used module for me?
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does the rest of the ligjts work?

n no dealer wont program used frm. but theres lot of members who can help yo proggram remotely . here on forum
Im not sure, car is still in the shop. But i have no 4 ways, no windows, door chime doesnt register and trunk doesnt open, and no blower motor. So everything linked to the FRM module is dead. Also do you know what i would need to code my module?
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      04-11-2016, 10:16 AM   #4
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if an frm is.bad non of your light n windows will work. now as dar as the errors. you cam clear them out

the frm hasnt have to anything do wit the trhotle
What I highlighted is bold is not true.

There are many ways an FRM can fail and often times, the brake lights at the very least work to some degree.
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      04-11-2016, 10:17 AM   #5
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Im not sure, car is still in the shop. But i have no 4 ways, no windows, door chime doesnt register and trunk doesnt open, and no blower motor. So everything linked to the FRM module is dead. Also do you know what i would need to code my module?
The frm only controls windows and lighting.

The HVAC blower motor is controlled via the HVAC panel.

The trunk release is handled by CAS I believe.

Sounds like your JBE module may be bad.
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The frm only controls windows and lighting.

The HVAC blower motor is controlled via the HVAC panel.

The trunk release is handled by CAS I believe.

Sounds like your JBE module may be bad.
Could be as the trunk worked not too long ago and only stopped working when i tried to lock and unlock the car to see if the locks work. Would the crash sensor have anything to do with this as well?
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Is your valet switch on?

Crash sensor will not disable electronics unless the airbag system deployed airbags and the BST was set off. If the BST was set off, the car would not start.
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Is your valet switch on?

Crash sensor will not disable electronics unless the airbag system deployed airbags and the BST was set off. If the BST was set off, the car would not start.
The BST was replaced, car starts now but still no blower motor or FRM functions. will have more info on the car tomorrow. And as far as the trunk lock, i hope its in valet mode haha
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So the car was in an accident?

Where was the impact? Did you check the harnesses for shorts?
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Accident was in the front, which harness do I look at for shorts? Also, does the airbag module(the one in the centre console) have to be sent out for repairs or need to be re coded?
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Just got back from my mechanics place and there doesn't seem to be any shorts in any of the harnesses. Does the 2010 e92 use an FRM3 or an FRM2?

Also does anyone know if the throttle pedal and throttle body is controlled by vacuum? Could a small vacuum leak be causing my bad pedal and reduced power?
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Just got back from my mechanics place and there doesn't seem to be any shorts in any of the harnesses. Does the 2010 e92 use an FRM3 or an FRM2?

Also does anyone know if the throttle pedal and throttle body is controlled by vacuum? Could a small vacuum leak be causing my bad pedal and reduced power?
What was the fix for your problem ?
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For the pedal issue i replaced the gas pedal. Half engine light went away and no vacuum leak to be found!

As far as the FRM module goes, i replaced it with a used module and had it programmed and it also fixed the issues.
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For the pedal issue i replaced the gas pedal. Half engine light went away and no vacuum leak to be found!

As far as the FRM module goes, i replaced it with a used module and had it programmed and it also fixed the issues.
I went from frm2 to frm3 now my driver window won't go down getting a message saying anti trap function but window won't move at all. When I put frm2 back in window goes down without any issues
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I went from frm2 to frm3 now my driver window won't go down getting a message saying anti trap function but window won't move at all. When I put frm2 back in window goes down without any issues
Did you default code the FRM3? There are a couple of jobs in INPA so the windows re-learn the specs.
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I went from frm2 to frm3 now my driver window won't go down getting a message saying anti trap function but window won't move at all. When I put frm2 back in window goes down without any issues
Did you default code the FRM3? There are a couple of jobs in INPA so the windows re-learn the specs.
I believe he did do it but once the frm went into the car the driver window never went down in the first place I even tried holding it down for 30 seconds and it does nothing just get message anti trap function
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I believe he did do it but once the frm went into the car the driver window never went down in the first place I even tried holding it down for 30 seconds and it does nothing just get message anti trap function
I would flash with WinKFP. Then, make sure to do a FA_WRITE using the VO from CAS. Do a re-learn using INPA, then default code FRM3 with NCS using Expert Mode.
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I believe he did do it but once the frm went into the car the driver window never went down in the first place I even tried holding it down for 30 seconds and it does nothing just get message anti trap function
I would flash with WinKFP. Then, make sure to do a FA_WRITE using the VO from CAS. Do a re-learn using INPA, then default code FRM3 with NCS using Expert Mode.
How to find correct zusb number ?
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How to find correct zusb number ?
Comfort mode... it will find the number itself.
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I believe he did do it but once the frm went into the car the driver window never went down in the first place I even tried holding it down for 30 seconds and it does nothing just get message anti trap function
I would flash with WinKFP. Then, make sure to do a FA_WRITE using the VO from CAS. Do a re-learn using INPA, then default code FRM3 with NCS using Expert Mode.
How to find correct zusb number ?
This is the message we were getting when clicking on zusb number tired 4 out of 15 none worked. Kept getting this error
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This is the message we were getting when clicking on zusb number tired 4 out of 15 none worked. Kept getting this error
INPA
1. Start INPA and select E90 and Functional Jobs
2. Select UIF
3. Write down the ZB# for the FRM
4. Close INPA

WinKFP
1. Start WinKFP and select F3:- Update ZUSB
2. Select ECU from above and the ECU will appear along with a list of part numbers.
3. Select ok and the main menu will re-appear
4. Select VIN and enter the cars VIN # and select OK.
5. Select Done
6. Select Prog. ZB_update, you will be asked to confirm the update, Winkfp will state the number of times the module can be re-programmed.
7. Click ok and wait.
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This is the message we were getting when clicking on zusb number tired 4 out of 15 none worked. Kept getting this error
INPA
1. Start INPA and select E90 and Functional Jobs
2. Select UIF
3. Write down the ZB# for the FRM
4. Close INPA

WinKFP
1. Start WinKFP and select F3:- Update ZUSB
2. Select ECU from above and the ECU will appear along with a list of part numbers.
3. Select ok and the main menu will re-appear
4. Select VIN and enter the cars VIN # and select OK.
5. Select Done
6. Select Prog. ZB_update, you will be asked to confirm the update, Winkfp will state the number of times the module can be re-programmed.
7. Click ok and wait.
I forgot to mention, when you start WinKFP, select enter ZUSB and that's when you notice which ECU family that shows up. If it can't find the ZUSB, then go to C:\EC-APPS\NFS\DATA and open the FRM3 folder. Inside there, there is a *.his file, open it with notepad and do a search for the ZB that INPA showed. Once you find it, there should be another ZB listed next to it, with a higher number. Copy that number and do a search. Repeat this process until it runs out of updates.

But, once you confirm which ECU family the
ZB from INPA belongs to, you can essentially stop there and run the process I described in the previous post.
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