Pure stage 2 Auto 135i vs Vargas stage 2+ 335is

Redbmwm33 · 06-21-2016, 12:10 PM

Had two really good runs with my buddy who has pretty much identical mods. First run was a 60 roll and second was a 40 where he used anti lag.

135i mods:
Auto
FBO+ inlets
JB4 BEF+antilag
Pure stage 2 turbos
Fuel it port injection with stage 3 LPFP running 100% e85

335is + passenger (camera car) mods:
DCT
FBO+ Inlets
BuraQ MHD tuned
Vargas Varga 2+ turbos
Fuel it port injection with stage 3 LPFP running 100% e85

Both cars at 25psi and on good tires.

335is-dct · 06-21-2016, 12:16 PM

dct strikes again. that vert really takes away whatever weight advantage he would have had.

Redbmwm33 · 06-21-2016, 12:57 PM

I had a passenger as wel. Yeah probably the same.

j_marinelli · 06-21-2016, 02:26 PM

Thanks for sharing!

Good to see some SA love on the forum

Chris@VargasTurboTech · 06-21-2016, 02:30 PM

Love it!

natedog7700 · 06-21-2016, 04:23 PM

those mods are good for how much hp? 650whp? 700whp? How are the transmission's not slipping in both cars?

BKBMW335I · 06-21-2016, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by 335is-dct

dct strikes again. that vert really takes away whatever weight advantage he would have had.

How so?? It isn't like that's a hardtop, it's a rag and they aren't that heavy and I understand that normally there is a lot of extra bracing and whatnot but I'm not sure how vast the difference is between a regular I35 and a convertible, let alone the difference between an I35 and a 335.

335s aren't exactly lightweight, so I'm sure having that convertible put them close in weight, even though he probably would've had a slight weight advantage if it wasn't a vert.

Redbmwm33 · 06-21-2016, 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by natedog7700

those mods are good for how much hp? 650whp? 700whp? How are the transmission's not slipping in both cars?

25 psi is not 650 WHP. This is probably 575 whp at the most.

Cory S · 06-22-2016, 12:31 AM

Video quality is awesome.

sirdaft1 · 06-22-2016, 12:40 AM

With all mods being nearly equal, I would attribute this to a tuning match. What's a JB4 BEF? At that level of modification I would think you'd go with a custom tune.

PR3CI5N · 06-22-2016, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by artsoasis

Quote:

Originally Posted by natedog7700

those mods are good for how much hp? 650whp? 700whp? How are the transmission's not slipping in both cars?

25 psi is not 650 WHP. This is probably 575 whp at the most.

No. I made 601 @23psi with Pure. Obviously each car is different but 575 @25 is very weak.

N54Society · 06-22-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

No. I made 601 @23psi with Pure. Obviously each car is different but 575 @25 is very weak.

On an auto transmission?

PR3CI5N · 06-22-2016, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vbp6us

On an auto transmission?

Yes

335is-dct · 06-22-2016, 03:07 AM

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Originally Posted by BKBMW335I

How so?? It isn't like that's a hardtop, it's a rag and they aren't that heavy and I understand that normally there is a lot of extra bracing and whatnot but I'm not sure how vast the difference is between a regular I35 and a convertible, let alone the difference between an I35 and a 335.

335s aren't exactly lightweight, so I'm sure having that convertible put them close in weight, even though he probably would've had a slight weight advantage if it wasn't a vert.

135 convertible is over 3600lbs according to Google. That is noticeably more then the coupe.

Redbmwm33 · 06-22-2016, 06:43 AM

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Originally Posted by 335is-dct

135 convertible is over 3600lbs according to Google. That is noticeably more then the coupe.

335is weighs 3600 lbs. I also had a passenger.

Redbmwm33 · 06-22-2016, 06:47 AM

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Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

No. I made 601 @23psi with Pure. Obviously each car is different but 575 @25 is very weak.

Probably on a very high reading dyno on a very cold day. This video was filmed on a humid Texas night at 90 degree + weather.

Redbmwm33 · 06-22-2016, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sirdaft1

With all mods being nearly equal, I would attribute this to a tuning match. What's a JB4 BEF? At that level of modification I would think you'd go with a custom tune.

JB4 with a custom back end flash.

PR3CI5N · 06-23-2016, 12:23 AM

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Originally Posted by artsoasis

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Originally Posted by PR3CI5N

No. I made 601 @23psi with Pure. Obviously each car is different but 575 @25 is very weak.

Probably on a very high reading dyno on a very cold day. This video was filmed on a humid Texas night at 90 degree + weather.

Lol it was a Dynojet in 80 degree weather, tuned by Terry himself.

NA55 · 06-23-2016, 01:06 AM

What inlets were these cars using?

PR3CI5N · 06-23-2016, 01:32 AM

^ good question. Upgraded inlets definitely help make more power but different versions make more than others.

Redbmwm33 · 06-23-2016, 11:34 AM

I'm using Vargas inlets and he is using some kind of custom screens on his turbos (inlet delete).

PR3CI5N · 06-23-2016, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by artsoasis

I'm using Vargas inlets and he is using some kind of custom screens on his turbos (inlet delete).

Interesting. Any pics of his setup?

06-21-2016, 12:10 PM	#1
Redbmwm33 Lieutenant 103 Rep 558 Posts Drives: Bmw m9 Join Date: Jul 2011 Location: London iTrader: (3)	Pure stage 2 Auto 135i vs Vargas stage 2+ 335is Had two really good runs with my buddy who has pretty much identical mods. First run was a 60 roll and second was a 40 where he used anti lag. 135i mods: Auto FBO+ inlets JB4 BEF+antilag Pure stage 2 turbos Fuel it port injection with stage 3 LPFP running 100% e85 335is + passenger (camera car) mods: DCT FBO+ Inlets BuraQ MHD tuned Vargas Varga 2+ turbos Fuel it port injection with stage 3 LPFP running 100% e85 Both cars at 25psi and on good tires.
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