[Caster]

http://www.edmunds.com/insideline/do...cleId=126539#2

Its going to be a tough choice between the 335i Sedan LCI and this new A4. While I love the interior of the Audi, the performance is lacking.

Lets get some opinions...

[Year's_End]

Love the new A4, but I'd take a facelifted (...or LCI...whatever...) 335i over it.

[adrock]

As usual Audi is killing it with their interior and exterior designs and forgetting all about power, performance, handling and balance.
A4 Looks > 3x
328 Handling & Performance > A4

[SLV335I]

Originally Posted by adrock

As usual Audi is killing it with their interior and exterior designs and forgetting all about power, performance, handling and balance.
A4 Looks > 3x
328 Handling & Performance > A4

What are you talking about everything is great other than the power. The brakes, handling, and balance are great.

[adrock]

Originally Posted by SLV335I

What are you talking about everything is great other than the power. The brakes, handling, and balance are great.

I will give you breaks.. but the engine is too far up and the only option is FWD if you don't get Quattro, and come on Audi ...210 hp from a 2.0 engine? I know it's small, and it is a great engine but the Japanese are destroying you!

I am a HUGE Audi fan (see Fig. a). I came from a B7 A4 to my 335i and I will never look back until Audi gets their engine behind the front axle and starts offering RWD, no matter how dead sexy (Fat Bastard from Austin Powers voice) their cars are. Audi does a lot of things brilliantly and they know how to make an amazing car (R10, RS4, R8) but 30-40k segment has some heavy hitters in the performance arena 335i, G37, IS 350, etc. With 265 hp in a car that weighs 3,870 lb and costs $45,000 the new A4 is heavier and slower than it's competition. But you get some pretty sweet LED headlights so it will sell

Fig. a

[Caster]

You guys are quick.

The article did mention that the handling is great, but I'd still bet the E90 (328 and 335) could beat it around a corner. I'm going to reserve judgment for a test drive though, but I was just in an A4 2.0T AWD and it seemed sluggish and the handling didn't seem to impress me. Audi's Quattro doesn't impress me like the AWD system of the Evo and STi..

[ChaneRZ]

good for luxury drive.

[Tmac911]

Audi is good stuff man... i love the interior and sometimes i don't think a car is all about performance. I mean like as long as its decent then im fine with it

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by adrock

I will give you breaks.. but the engine is too far up and the only option is FWD if you don't get Quattro, and come on Audi ...210 hp from a 2.0 engine? I know it's small, and it is a great engine but the Japanese are destroying you!

Nothing wrong with the FWD for every-day driving...
And I am not sure about the 2.0L 210 Audi vs. Japanese engine comment...
I don't see any Japanese 2.0L engines making more than 200 HP (Honda, Toyota, Mitsu, Nissan, Acura). I hope you're not talking EVO and that other crap...
And who the hell needs more than 200 HP anyway?

[keanu1]

how can you like a car that has christmas tree lights in the headlamp!! This car is bought by gypsies in Romania!! It's blink blink!! That's show off!! Maybe they should put some shiny stars also on the hood!!

[RedGT3]

And then it hits us. That a-hole is right. Absolutely right. There is only one thing wrong with the 2009 Audi A4, and it's the simple fact that a BMW 335i can blow its doors off.

[albeik]

Originally Posted by dr325i

Nothing wrong with the FWD for every-day driving...
And I am not sure about the 2.0L 210 Audi vs. Japanese engine comment...
I don't see any Japanese 2.0L engines making more than 200 HP (Honda, Toyota, Mitsu, Nissan, Acura). I hope you're not talking EVO and that other crap...
And who the hell needs more than 200 HP anyway?

umm... Honda S2000?

[hks786]

To be fair the S4 is a rival for the 335i so lets not jump the gun here

[Icedog_16]

Originally Posted by albeik

umm... Honda S2000?

Except that you have to rev the piss out of it to get that power and torque is completely lacking. Same thing went for the 2ZZ in my Elise. Get caught with your pants down with either one and you might as well have a Snickers while you wait to get in the power.

[Icedog_16]

Originally Posted by adrock

I will give you breaks.. but the engine is too far up and the only option is FWD if you don't get Quattro, and come on Audi ...210 hp from a 2.0 engine? I know it's small, and it is a great engine but the Japanese are destroying you!

I am a HUGE Audi fan (see Fig. a). I came from a B7 A4 to my 335i and I will never look back until Audi gets their engine behind the front axle and starts offering RWD, no matter how dead sexy (Fat Bastard from Austin Powers voice) their cars are. Audi does a lot of things brilliantly and they know how to make an amazing car (R10, RS4, R8) but 30-40k segment has some heavy hitters in the performance arena 335i, G37, IS 350, etc. With 265 hp in a car that weighs 3,870 lb and costs $45,000 the new A4 is heavier and slower than it's competition. But you get some pretty sweet LED headlights so it will sell

Fig. a

With the B8, Audi moved the engine back farther in the chassis. But I agree, they could do with more power. That's why I got the 335i instead of the TT since the 3.2 was not fast enough for me. That said, it is pretty easy to get significantly more power out of the 2.0T, not 335i power, but enough for most.

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by albeik

umm... Honda S2000?

Are you really comparing it to A4?

[adrock]

Disregard my last comment :
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080529....fensive-leaked

[Caster]

Originally Posted by dr325i

Nothing wrong with the FWD for every-day driving...
And I am not sure about the 2.0L 210 Audi vs. Japanese engine comment...
I don't see any Japanese 2.0L engines making more than 200 HP (Honda, Toyota, Mitsu, Nissan, Acura). I hope you're not talking EVO and that other crap...
And who the hell needs more than 200 HP anyway?

Who needs more then 200HP? How about everyone driving a 335i, Evo, M3, S4, S5, etc, but I agree theres nothing wrong with FWD for everyday driving, although I like to enjoy backroads with my car and I hate the feel of FWD cars AND how can you call the Evo crap? Its nothing short of amazing, everything from the engine to the AWD system.

Originally Posted by adrock

Disregard my last comment :
http://www.worldcarfans.com/9080529....fensive-leaked

The new S4 seems like its going to be a good competitor for the 335i, but I still think its going to be out of the price range for the 335i sedan. Edmunds stated that their B8 A4 3.2 was ~$45,000, which is what nicely equipped 335i would cost you, while a base S4 now starts at $48,610.

Its nice that Audi is returning to turbo'd engines for their S cars. The S5 is a beautiful car, but a V8 and 14mpg (combined) is not that attractive with the prices of gas today..

[flyinb501]

Originally Posted by adrock

As usual Audi is killing it with their interior and exterior designs and forgetting all about power, performance, handling and balance.
A4 Looks > 3x
328 Handling & Performance > A4

I agree. Give me the A4 with a rear wheel drive option and more power. I'm sure it will be a great car though.

[jetblk328i]

i love the new A4, def. testing out the 2.0T quattro whenever it comes out!

[DFW_M]

Originally Posted by Caster

Who needs more then 200HP? How about everyone driving a 335i, Evo, M3, S4, S5, etc, but I agree theres nothing wrong with FWD for everyday driving, although I like to enjoy backroads with my car and I hate the feel of FWD cars AND how can you call the Evo crap? Its nothing short of amazing, everything from the engine to the AWD system.

..

I said who needs, not who wishes to have it...
THere is absolutely no need for EVO or 335 power...
It is only a misconseption in this country that bigger is actually better and more fun...

[Caster]

Originally Posted by dr325i

I said who needs, not who wishes to have it...
THere is absolutely no need for EVO or 335 power...
It is only a misconseption in this country that bigger is actually better and more fun...

Faster = more fun...

...on the track and when its safe