E90Post
 


 
BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N54 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications - 335i > Replacement water pump longevity



Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      09-23-2018, 03:38 PM   #1
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Replacement water pump longevity

So unfortunately my water pump failed last night. 93xxx miles on it so I can't really complain. Was wondering how long people have had their replacements? I ordered the kit from FCP euro which comes with the Siemens pump so just wondering how often I should go about replacing them now that I have a free lifetime replacement warranty. Thanks for any responses!
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 02:03 PM   #2
Cabdriver
Private First Class
Cabdriver's Avatar
52
Rep
164
Posts

Drives: 2009 E90 335i
Join Date: Jun 2016
Location: NJ

iTrader: (0)

Got mine from FCP about 3k miles ago, all good for now.....
__________________
2009 e90 335i
6MT*Sport Package*Factory Location VRSF Inlets/Outlets*VRSF 7"HD IC & DCIs*FTP Low Temp Oil cooler Thermostat*VRSF DP & 335is Mufflers*Turbosmart Diverters*Custom Tune*550 Clutch & Delay Valve Removed*e93 M3 FSB*Custom Seeping Oil Pan
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 02:19 PM   #3
nissubaru
Lieutenant
233
Rep
566
Posts

Drives: 09 335i MSport + 1990 300ZX TT
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Philadelphia

iTrader: (0)

Unfortunately I didn't know about FCPEuro when I did my waterpump. I bought it from oembimmerparts. However I still am not anticipating needing to replace it again anytime soon.

The purpose of the FCP warranty is not exactly so you can go around replacing your water pump whenever you feel like its time, I mean you can but I'd probably watch out for water pump codes and replace as needed. That's how I knew mine was on the way out.

I have bought other parts from FCPEuro though like spark plugs, OFHG, tensioner pulley, alternator and most recently the clutch master cylinder. None of these are things I plan to replace just because I have the FCPEuro warranty. If something fails, great, I'll get a replacement part for free...but I wouldn't go out of your way fixing things that don't need to be fixed.

I do like the FCPEuro warranty on consumables though. Eventually I'll probably get a new tensioner pulley and belt because they take 10 minutes to replace.
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 02:36 PM   #4
catcher22
Captain
296
Rep
922
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (2)

The waterpump is not really a preventative maintenance item. You replace it when it goes bad.

The problem is, when it goes bad, it usually leaves you in limp mode and stranded. So some people like to pretend it's a preventative maintenance item. But you never really know when it's gonna crap out.

Funny, I have 93,xxx miles and am on my 3RD waterpump and tstat! First died at 59,xxx, then second died at 74,xxx when my radiator developed a pinhole leak and my expansion tank blew up. That took out the water pump and tstat in the process of it all. Going strong since then though.
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 02:55 PM   #5
FCobra94
Guest
0
Rep
n/a
Posts

Drives:


Quote:
Originally Posted by catcher22 View Post
The waterpump is not really a preventative maintenance item. You replace it when it goes bad. But you never really know when it's gonna crap out.
...which is why peeps suggest replacing it at the ~60K mark.

Quote:
Originally Posted by catcher22 View Post
First died at 59,xxx
Exactly.
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 03:04 PM   #6
catcher22
Captain
296
Rep
922
Posts

Drives: 2008 335xi Coupe
Join Date: May 2008
Location: Virginia

iTrader: (2)

Quote:
Originally Posted by FCobra94 View Post
...which is why peeps suggest replacing it at the ~60K mark.


Exactly.
I dunno man, I'd be pissed if I were OP and changed it at 60k. He got 93k out of it.....but to each their own.
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 03:15 PM   #7
FCobra94
Guest
0
Rep
n/a
Posts

Drives:


Appreciate 2
catcher22295.50
Jklad422.00
      09-24-2018, 03:24 PM   #8
malgyver
Private
17
Rep
72
Posts

Drives: 2008 335i Sedan
Join Date: Feb 2015
Location: SF Bay Area, California

iTrader: (0)

My replacement has about 70K on it. Car currently has 150K. Poor baby.
__________________
JB4, DPs, Style 313 wheels, M-Sport front bumper, Inlets, DCI
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 09:30 PM   #9
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by catcher22 View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by FCobra94 View Post
...which is why peeps suggest replacing it at the ~60K mark.


Exactly.
I dunno man, I'd be pissed if I were OP and changed it at 60k. He got 93k out of it.....but to each their own.
I definitely understand the not replacing it unless you need it philosophy but for some things that often fail, like the water pump, and leave you stranded it's good to have a bit of peace of mind by doing a routine change. Not saying I'd do it every year or anything but maybe 60k or something like that. Especially since I was just stranded in the middle of the night and had to wait 3 hours after AAA didn't send a flat bad to pick me up the first time...

Now for things like spark plugs and ignition coils I prefer to replace every 25k or so since I'm running stage 2+ mhd now. The minor work required for some of the replacements is worth it to me for a little extra protection
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 09:33 PM   #10
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by nissubaru View Post
Unfortunately I didn't know about FCPEuro when I did my waterpump. I bought it from oembimmerparts. However I still am not anticipating needing to replace it again anytime soon.

The purpose of the FCP warranty is not exactly so you can go around replacing your water pump whenever you feel like its time, I mean you can but I'd probably watch out for water pump codes and replace as needed. That's how I knew mine was on the way out.

I have bought other parts from FCPEuro though like spark plugs, OFHG, tensioner pulley, alternator and most recently the clutch master cylinder. None of these are things I plan to replace just because I have the FCPEuro warranty. If something fails, great, I'll get a replacement part for free...but I wouldn't go out of your way fixing things that don't need to be fixed.

I do like the FCPEuro warranty on consumables though. Eventually I'll probably get a new tensioner pulley and belt because they take 10 minutes to replace.
I won't necessarily go out of my way but definitely like to be a bit proactive. Right now the car is still my only mode of transportation so I like to take care of it the best I can. The extra elbow grease for the knowledge that I will most likely not be stranded is nice to have even if it means I theoretically replaced the water pump 10K miles before it might have actually died
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 09:57 PM   #11
nissubaru
Lieutenant
233
Rep
566
Posts

Drives: 09 335i MSport + 1990 300ZX TT
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Philadelphia

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by allcaps55 View Post
I won't necessarily go out of my way but definitely like to be a bit proactive. Right now the car is still my only mode of transportation so I like to take care of it the best I can. The extra elbow grease for the knowledge that I will most likely not be stranded is nice to have even if it means I theoretically replaced the water pump 10K miles before it might have actually died
Understood. In that case I would agree with the others who said every 60k is a good number if you want to be proactive. Depending on how much you drive per year this will give you plenty of time in between swaps to the point it's not an awful thing to do. Maybe every 3-5 years?

My pump started going out at 76k btw, 2009 replaced in 2017.
Appreciate 1
      09-24-2018, 10:15 PM   #12
feuer
Major General
feuer's Avatar
United_States
4289
Rep
9,226
Posts

Drives: wife crazy!
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

4/2008. My first pump failed at 36-38k. The impeller broke of from the shaft. Replacement fauled at 68-70k. The plastic housing cracked and started leaking. I'm at 100k now. Hopefully it won't fail this year. I have more than enough problems as is.
Appreciate 2
      09-24-2018, 10:20 PM   #13
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by nissubaru View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by allcaps55 View Post
I won't necessarily go out of my way but definitely like to be a bit proactive. Right now the car is still my only mode of transportation so I like to take care of it the best I can. The extra elbow grease for the knowledge that I will most likely not be stranded is nice to have even if it means I theoretically replaced the water pump 10K miles before it might have actually died
Understood. In that case I would agree with the others who said every 60k is a good number if you want to be proactive. Depending on how much you drive per year this will give you plenty of time in between swaps to the point it's not an awful thing to do. Maybe every 3-5 years?

My pump started going out at 76k btw, 2009 replaced in 2017.
Thanks for the input! Yeah probably around 5 years which by that time maybe someone will have figured out a performance upgrade that last forever... or at least we can be hopeful
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 10:21 PM   #14
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by feuer View Post
4/2008. My first pump failed at 36-38k. The impeller broke of from the shaft. Replacement fauled at 68-70k. The plastic housing cracked and started leaking. I'm at 100k now. Hopefully it won't fail this year. I have more than enough problems as is.
Jeez that does not sound promising. I've definitely been hear more of the crack and leak issues with the new ones. Did you use the Siemens replacement or the continental or neither?
Appreciate 0
      09-24-2018, 10:28 PM   #15
feuer
Major General
feuer's Avatar
United_States
4289
Rep
9,226
Posts

Drives: wife crazy!
Join Date: Apr 2015
Location: Chicago, IL

iTrader: (5)

Quote:
Originally Posted by allcaps55 View Post
Jeez that does not sound promising. I've definitely been hear more of the crack and leak issues with the new ones. Did you use the Siemens replacement or the continental or neither?
There is only one 335i pump: Seimens=Continental=VDO. Depends how vehicle is driven and the driving condition. Stop and go traffic and season changing won't be easy on the pump. Have that in mind. Results would vary.
Appreciate 1
whyzee1252009.50
      09-24-2018, 11:12 PM   #16
whyzee125
Brigadier General
2010
Rep
4,038
Posts

Drives: Dinan stage 2 335i
Join Date: Jul 2014
Location: Chattanooga Tn

iTrader: (0)

Mine's on the third pump at 165k. Replaced at 92k and 162k
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2018, 07:06 AM   #17
lightmanek
Private First Class
lightmanek's Avatar
United Kingdom
117
Rep
143
Posts

Drives: BMW E92 335i N54 MT ST PI FF
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Torquay

iTrader: (0)

My first pump died at 87k miles.
OEM replacement fitted by BMW was still working at 173k miles but was making noises, so I changed it proactively.
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2018, 08:59 AM   #18
Jklad
Lieutenant Colonel
Jklad's Avatar
United_States
422
Rep
1,643
Posts

Drives: 2007 335i Coupe
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Palatine, IL

iTrader: (0)

My first pump failed at 89k miles. Replaced with Bmw branded part. Second pump still fine at 145k miles. I plan to replace it proactively when I do new turbos, hopefully next summer.
__________________
2007 E92 335i MT
Appreciate 0
      09-25-2018, 04:43 PM   #19
allcaps55
Private
United_States
13
Rep
83
Posts

Drives: 2009 335i Coupe
Join Date: Jun 2017
Location: Denver, CO

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2009 335i  [0.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by feuer View Post
Quote:
Originally Posted by allcaps55 View Post
Jeez that does not sound promising. I've definitely been hear more of the crack and leak issues with the new ones. Did you use the Siemens replacement or the continental or neither?
There is only one 335i pump: Seimens=Continental=VDO. Depends how vehicle is driven and the driving condition. Stop and go traffic and season changing won't be easy on the pump. Have that in mind. Results would vary.
Did not know that. thanks for the info
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2018, 08:07 AM   #20
roadkillrob
Major General
892
Rep
5,475
Posts

Drives: 08 335i,22 X3M, 2012 C63 Black
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: NH

iTrader: (15)

Hopefully the redesigned ones last a bit longer than the early versions - I don't drive my car much, mine lasted like 7 years but only 18k miles.
__________________
2025 X5 Msport
2008 E93 335i FBO
2012 Mercedes C63 Black Series Alanite Grey
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2018, 11:01 AM   #21
b92
Major
b92's Avatar
United_States
542
Rep
1,038
Posts

Drives: E92 335is, 6MT
Join Date: Feb 2016
Location: Rhode Island

iTrader: (2)

I replaced mine preemptively since I was going to be under there installing downpipes anyway. This was at ~54k miles, the waterpump on my last N54 went at 52k so it was a good time to do it.

I purchased from FCP so I wouldn't preemptively replace it again until it throws codes or dies on me. My car sees less than 4k miles per year so I'm hopeful my current water pump will last me decade.
__________________
2011 E92 335is, Space Grey/Coral Red, 6MT.
RB 2+, Wedge tuned. E85 PI coming soon.
Appreciate 0
      09-26-2018, 11:19 AM   #22
TheeGovernor
Life is better with burnouts
TheeGovernor's Avatar
101
Rep
611
Posts

Drives: BMW
Join Date: Dec 2011
Location: Mile High

iTrader: (4)

Garage List
at least 97k miles on my second pump
Appreciate 0
Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 01:34 PM.




e90post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST