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Why aren't small luxury hatchbacks sold in the US?
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07-31-2019, 11:03 PM | #1 |
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Why aren't small luxury hatchbacks sold in the US?
I really like the Mercedes A Class hatchback and the BMW 1 Series hatchback but they've never come to the US.
Also, although they are not luxury vehicles, Subaru stopped selling the WRX and WRX STi hatchbacks here as well. Is the US not hatchback ready? |
08-01-2019, 12:01 AM | #2 |
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Probably had sales taken away by CUV's and SAV's. I loved the STi hatchback.
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08-01-2019, 03:20 AM | #3 |
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Europeans prefer hatches. Americans prefer coupes and trucks.
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08-01-2019, 07:38 AM | #5 |
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Very simple, Americans don't buy hatches (other than Hatch green chili!)
I certainly like them, but I am very much in the minority.
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08-01-2019, 11:26 AM | #8 |
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As others have said, hatchbacks don't sell well in the USA. Same for station wagons.
I just bought my daughter a VW Golf Alltrack. Gets great reviews from Consumer Reports (which tends to focus on utility and safety) and from Car & Driver (which tends to focus on performance). But I never see any on the road (a true Unicorn) and VW is going to stop selling it in the US as of next year. Americans want their hatchbacks raised. Some of the small SUVs are really hatch backs with a tiny height increase. But Americans buy them because they are called SUVs or crossovers. |
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08-01-2019, 11:39 AM | #9 |
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I'm doing my part. Owned a CRX, a Z3 M Coupe, two Mazda 3 hatches, and two GTI's. Greatly prefer a hatch to a sedan or coupe. All but the GTI's have had roof racks too.
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08-01-2019, 08:55 PM | #10 |
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Americans aren't concerned with being space conscious.
Why spend $35K on a MINI Hardtop when I could get a Accord, a RAV4, or Ranger for the same price? ![]() Did I mention people hate them? I think many Boomers associate hatchbacks with cars like the Pinto and Colt and that hasn't gone away. |
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08-02-2019, 12:07 AM | #12 |
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I love seeing little hot hatches and A1 Audis in Europe. And while not "luxury," the Renault Megane, Peugeot 308, etc. look cool.
In America everything's gotta be supersized. The only sustainable hatch here has been the Golf.
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Agree that the budget/compact SUVs are all actually lifted hatchbacks or wagons though.
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The Mazda 3 and Subaru Impreza hatchbacks have maintained momentum for a few generations as well. Also, both Toyota and Honda have multiple successful small hatchback models (including the Prius). The Koreans seem to be have carved out their niche too, at least for the time being.
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08-02-2019, 09:24 AM | #16 |
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No one buys them, Audi had the A3 hatch and couldn't move them so brought the Q3 in instead and whalla ... sales.
For the most part roads here are arrow straight, most cities are a grid, the trade off of handling for useability doesn't work here, the little bit of a rasied height means more tyre, more ride comfort for crappy roads and not worried about whacking things like parking bollards. |
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08-02-2019, 10:01 AM | #19 |
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SUVs aside. Cars offered in sedan and wagon trim always carry additional cost for a wagon that many people don't see worth while for a little bit more additional vertical cargo space.
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08-02-2019, 10:14 AM | #21 |
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Well, unless it has an LS1 and a manual transmission in it...
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08-02-2019, 10:18 AM | #22 |
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I think it's really that the USA has been there and done that. The 1960's had wagons out the wazoo, every suburban family had a Big-3 wagon of some sort. In the 1970's almost every small and midsized car had a hatchback variant; there were tons of hatchbacks back then.
The mid-sized SUV/CUV has just taken their place.
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