To those Autos with Dinan Stage 2 Rev2...

E90076 · 08-24-2008, 08:11 PM

I have asked this question in the past when I was stock but now that I have Stage 2 I would like to repost as a sanity check...

I had my torque converter replaced days after purchasing the car and therefore have no sense of reference. Not that I'm trying to create smokey burnout to showoff but from a technical standpoint (and to check that everything was done correctly with my torque converter), should those with Dinan Stage 2 be able to produce tire spin from a dead stop without power breaking? In other words, if you are stopped, in D1, and floor it, with or without DSC, does your car spin the tires from a stop?

(Note: While my tires don't spin from a dead stop, they do at about 3.5K after getting the Dinan tune.)

Any help would be much appreciated.

vase330 · 08-24-2008, 11:09 PM

My winters spun more than than my summers with the DTC (one quick jab at the DSC button). With DSC left on, I get power cut as soon as the dsc light starts to flash, so much so, I just get a smooth relentless acceleration. I think you are fine.

E90076 · 08-24-2008, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by vase330

My winters spun more than than my summers with the DTC (one quick jab at the DSC button). With DSC left on, I get power cut as soon as the dsc light starts to flash, so much so, I just get a smooth relentless acceleration. I think you are fine.

Thanks, I guess my question is then, does the dsc light flash as soon as you hit the gas or does it not come on until past 3K rpms?

NPDAN · 08-24-2008, 11:40 PM

What kind of tires?

vegasspeed · 08-25-2008, 12:44 AM

I finally got my Dinan tune and I can get wheelspin all day long in the first 3 gears. I have a manual though.

ybbiz34 · 08-25-2008, 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by vegasspeed

I finally got my Dinan tune and I can get wheelspin all day long in the first 3 gears. I have a manual though.

Nice, finally! Are you going to give us the full review?

vegasspeed · 08-25-2008, 12:58 AM

Well, I gave a review but it was brief. I am still breaking in the car a little.

vase330 · 08-25-2008, 01:57 AM

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Originally Posted by E90076

Thanks, I guess my question is then, does the dsc light flash as soon as you hit the gas or does it not come on until past 3K rpms?

You'll have a burnout all day long with DTC off on stock tires with steptronic in manual mode or DS. You can do a nice donut by cranking it right or left and flooring it. Waste of $$$ and damn expensive tires, so I did donut like twice for kicks, but have not done much wheel spinning so I don't know your answer. I just lift off as soon it starts spinning. No desire to burn well earned $$$. Maybe others can help out.

E90076 · 08-25-2008, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by NPDAN

What kind of tires?

Stock Bridgestone RFTs...

E90076 · 08-25-2008, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by vase330

You'll have a burnout all day long with DTC off on stock tires with steptronic in manual mode or DS. You can do a nice donut by cranking it right or left and flooring it. Waste of $$$ and damn expensive tires, so I did donut like twice for kicks, but have not done much wheel spinning so I don't know your answer. I just lift off as soon it starts spinning. No desire to burn well earned $$$. Maybe others can help out.

Couldnt agree more, and not that I would do burnouts all day long...my concern is, should I be able to? With the wheel turned I probably could too.

If I floor it off the line, in a straight line, without power breaking, my car will not spin the tires until about 3.5K rpm. Is that normal?

twin turbo · 08-25-2008, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by E90076

Couldnt agree more, and not that I would do burnouts all day long...my concern is, should I be able to? With the wheel turned I probably could too.

If I floor it off the line, in a straight line, without power breaking, my car will not spin the tires until about 3.5K rpm. Is that normal?

That is exactly how my car performs. I even replaced the run flats with Michelin PS2 non run flats, and they still spin hard at the top of first gear. I think your car is fine.

E90076 · 08-25-2008, 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by twin turbo

That is exactly how my car performs. I even replaced the run flats with Michelin PS2 non run flats, and they still spin hard at the top of first gear. I think your car is fine.

And I was hoping PS2s would help...

What about off the line though - your car spin them directly from idle if you mash on it without using the brake to rev up?

vase330 · 08-25-2008, 08:14 PM

Rest easy man, your converter is fine. The reason it wont spin directly is the converter doesn't start out locked and only locks later. Its not like a manual, it will allow some slip initially and absorb that eneregy that shocks the driveline in manuals. Its better for for car anyway.

sambonator · 08-25-2008, 08:31 PM

There isn't enough torque at low RPM's to break the tires loose on dry pavement. Only after boost and torque (and RPMs) builds, will you be able to break traction.

Gossamer · 08-25-2008, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by sambonator

There isn't enough torque at low RPM's to break the tires loose on dry pavement. Only after boost and torque (and RPMs) builds, will you be able to break traction.

I have no problem breaking the tires loose on dry pavement with the traction control on. But, my car is red so it's faster.

twin turbo · 08-25-2008, 09:58 PM

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Originally Posted by E90076

And I was hoping PS2s would help...

What about off the line though - your car spin them directly from idle if you mash on it without using the brake to rev up?

No, they don't spin until the top of first. I don't think my run flats spun off the line either.

E90076 · 08-25-2008, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by twin turbo

No, they don't spin until the top of first. I don't think my run flats spun off the line either.

Thanks man, I appreciate it.

08-24-2008, 08:11 PM	#1
E90076 Lieutenant 242 Rep 506 Posts Drives: X3M, M2CS, M5CS Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	To those Autos with Dinan Stage 2 Rev2... I have asked this question in the past when I was stock but now that I have Stage 2 I would like to repost as a sanity check... I had my torque converter replaced days after purchasing the car and therefore have no sense of reference. Not that I'm trying to create smokey burnout to showoff but from a technical standpoint (and to check that everything was done correctly with my torque converter), should those with Dinan Stage 2 be able to produce tire spin from a dead stop without power breaking? In other words, if you are stopped, in D1, and floor it, with or without DSC, does your car spin the tires from a stop? (Note: While my tires don't spin from a dead stop, they do at about 3.5K after getting the Dinan tune.) Any help would be much appreciated.
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vase330 Colonel 107 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	Depends a lot on tires you have. My winters spun more than than my summers with the DTC (one quick jab at the DSC button). With DSC left on, I get power cut as soon as the dsc light starts to flash, so much so, I just get a smooth relentless acceleration. I think you are fine. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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vegasspeed Captain 84 Rep 761 Posts Drives: 335i 6MT coupe Montego Blue Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (1)	I finally got my Dinan tune and I can get wheelspin all day long in the first 3 gears. I have a manual though. __________________ 335i coupe Montego Blue Dinan stage 3 tune, Advan RS wheels 350whp/365wtq 1994 Brooklands Green Acura NSX Comptech Supercharged 390whp/300wtq
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vegasspeed Captain 84 Rep 761 Posts Drives: 335i 6MT coupe Montego Blue Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (1)	Well, I gave a review but it was brief. I am still breaking in the car a little. __________________ 335i coupe Montego Blue Dinan stage 3 tune, Advan RS wheels 350whp/365wtq 1994 Brooklands Green Acura NSX Comptech Supercharged 390whp/300wtq
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vase330 Colonel 107 Rep 2,760 Posts Drives: 19 E63S; 15.5 RangeRover ATB Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Arlington, Va iTrader: (1)	My car does just like yours man, you are fine. Rest easy man, your converter is fine. The reason it wont spin directly is the converter doesn't start out locked and only locks later. Its not like a manual, it will allow some slip initially and absorb that eneregy that shocks the driveline in manuals. Its better for for car anyway. __________________ E92 335 \| Space Gray \| Saddle Brown Dakota \| Dark Burl Trim \| ZPP \| ZSP \| AT \| Idrive \| 6FL \| FBO \| Dinan CAI \| Quaife LSD \| STG3 PROCede.
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sambonator Samtaro! 130 Rep 2,609 Posts Drives: 2014 F32 N55 Alpinweiß Join Date: May 2007 Location: Newport Beach, CA, USA iTrader: (7)	There isn't enough torque at low RPM's to break the tires loose on dry pavement. Only after boost and torque (and RPMs) builds, will you be able to break traction. __________________
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