[OBI_agent]

http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flas...c66f5e230f78f2

Good looking station wagon

[Year's_End]

oh my goddd it's so UGRY.

[OBI_agent]

Yo bimmer,
help me embedd this

rc='http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flash/NFPlayer.swf?vid=1F3B9D35316437145BF0C5CBDC0A302AD 3B4&outKey=V12566770ddcb7afd2c20fac66f5e230f78f215 f5e0c954d8d2fdfac66f5e230f78f2' wmode='transparent' width='500' height='408' allowScriptAccess='always' name='NFPlayer32581' id='NFPlayer32581' allowFullScreen='true' type='application/x-shockwave-flash'

[Crimson92]

nasty

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

Yo bimmer,
help me embedd this

[u2b]rc='http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flash/NFPlayer.swf?vid=1F3B9D35316437145BF0C5CBDC0A302AD 3B4&outKey=V12566770ddcb7afd2c20fac66f5e230f78f215 f5e0c954d8d2fdfac66f5e230f78f2' wmode='transparent' width='500' height='408' allowScriptAccess='always' name='NFPlayer32581' id='NFPlayer32581' allowFullScreen='true' type='application/x-shockwave-flash'[/u2b]

is it a youtube vid? if not sorry man I can't help you with it.

[lyndon_h]

That thing is boody (with no liciousness).

[OBI_agent]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

is it a youtube vid? if not sorry man I can't help you with it.

It's not a youtube video....if it was a youtube video, I would have embedded it but it's from some different site.....I edited that post again to show the actual code....sorry for that blank screen....i was trying different codes

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

Yo bimmer,
help me embedd this

rc='http://serviceapi.nmv.naver.com/flash/NFPlayer.swf?vid=1F3B9D35316437145BF0C5CBDC0A302AD 3B4&outKey=V12566770ddcb7afd2c20fac66f5e230f78f215 f5e0c954d8d2fdfac66f5e230f78f2' wmode='transparent' width='500' height='408' allowScriptAccess='always' name='NFPlayer32581' id='NFPlayer32581' allowFullScreen='true' type='application/x-shockwave-flash'

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by OBI_agent

It's not a youtube video....if it was a youtube video, I would have embedded it but it's from some different site.....I edited that post again to show the actual code....sorry for that blank screen....i was trying different codes

yeah I have no idea...

[rzm3]

wow looks like a wagon...

[Deda]

hmm,lets wait and see in metal.

[nmulax]

It's definitely a Porsche, no denying that.
Can't say I hate it. And although not as nice as the Aston Martin Rapide... it's tons better then the Lamborghini sedan.

[OBI_agent]

Originally Posted by nmulax

It's definitely a Porsche, no denying that.
Can't say I hate it. And although not as nice as the Aston Martin Rapide... it's tons better then the Lamborghini sedan.

I like the Lambo saloon better....I have never seen a meaner sedan then that.

[AtoB]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

oh my goddd it's so UGRY.

x2

[TK-421]

Aston Martin Rapide > Panamera

[MMMazing07]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

That is a true disaster and honestly, Porsche has lost its way like so many others. The only think Porsche has that's worth bowing too is the GT2 and GT3. Outside of that... ah... no comment.

so the Carrera GT.....993 TT....996 TT.......997 TT.....cayman are are worthless cars eh

[Year's_End]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Those are old school-Porsche... pre-sell-out. Carrera GT (got a ride in one of those by my boss, sick car!)

996 TT and 997 TT are shit

993, 964 and 911 RULE.

Cayman, you must be joking!

what's wrong with the cayman.

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by Bimmer Loyalist

what's wrong with the cayman.

Nothing.

Cayman's regularly keep up with stock Carrera's on the track. Just check out Caymanclub.net for some proof. It's a perfectly balanced car, but a lot of 911 snobs don't consider the Cayman a "real" Porsche.

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Nothing is wrong with the Cayman, other than it's underpowered. A wonderful car for handling... but looks goofy and couldn't be positioned correctly becaust it would have ended up outperforming the 996/7. Somewhat of a flop from a product perspective. Will admit, it's a good machine. But Porsche has got to stop positioning cars for the mum's and dad's of the world to make up margin. It's pathetic. Sell-out if you ask me. I'm a diehard Porsche fan... big time, but this latest makes me sick.

Sell out because it's $15,000 less than the Carrera yet matches it in track performance?

The Cayman S also has almost as much HP as a 335i, but weighs 500-600 pounds less. How is it underpowered?

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Compare Porsche to Porsche, not Porsche to BMW. Point is that the Cayman had outperformed the 996/997 before Porsche "tuned" it down... my point is that this the Cayman "should have been the 911 replacement" but instead it ended up as a dead product because of inception/positioning. From a corporate view, the Cayman is a product failure, unfortunately. And you can thank Porsche for that... They continue to add "fat" and "slop" to the base 997. This latest incarnation is an insult.

I'm not a big fan of the 997 *ducks to avoid 997 fanboys*, but I am a big fan of the Cayman. I actually agree with you, the mid-engined Cayman should be the top dog when it comes to Porsche's lineup. It handles better, has the potential to blow by cars twice its price (as proven when TechArt tuned the engine to 380HP), but to call it a flop is pretty premature.

The Cayman S is the third highest selling car of the Porsche lineup behind the Cayenne, and the Carrera Carbriolet (as of June 2007).

[NewSong]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Yeah, but look at the resale value... it's pathetic. The Cayman (with a design revision) should have been the replacement for the very old-and-outdated 911 concept. The 911 days are over... but Porsche positioned this car poorly, should have given it the top spot as replacement. But then again, you wouldn't have the GT3... which in my opinion is the best car on the planet regardless if it is not the fastest on the planet. The Cayman was unfortunately positioned incorrectly.

True true.

But the Cayman S for 2010 might be Porsche's way of correcting this, so it at least shows that Porsche is interested in improving the platform.

From MotorTrend November 2008, the Cayman S for 2010 is going to have PDK, LSD, and DFI. Also the HP will be bumped to 325HP which would put it on the same level as a stock Carrera. Also there will be some slight exterior changes (the front looks like it's taking some inspiration from the GT3 body kit).

So it's definitely something to look out for. I am tempted to buy one next year.

[footie]

The first still shot of the unmasked car finished in red actually look lovely from that view angle. Though from all of the other view it's an ugly brute.

[MMMazing07]

Originally Posted by Laszlo

Those are old school-Porsche... pre-sell-out. Carrera GT (got a ride in one of those by my boss, sick car!)

996 TT and 997 TT are shit

993, 964 and 911 RULE.

Cayman, you must be joking!

looks are subjective for one so dont say its "ugly". from a marketing perspective you can say the cayman is a failure but i wouldnt mind a used one for under 65k over my car. fantastic car for the money.

how are turbos "shit"