6MT tranny question

gesswh0zbizak · 12-31-2008, 02:45 PM

i would like to know if this is common on new 09 e92 i still have under 1000k miles on the car and the clutch feels very nice and so does the gear box but from first to second its very notchly for some reason but all other gears its smooth

Sal@AUTOcouture · 12-31-2008, 03:07 PM

1,000,000 miles! Damn thats alot of miles.

On a serious note, it could just be the pesky symptoms of the stock CDV ur feeling

Alex@AKMotorwerk · 12-31-2008, 03:13 PM

+1... need to get the modified CDV

gesswh0zbizak · 12-31-2008, 03:19 PM

its like a nice feeling but weriod because before this car i had a r56 jcw and that stick was alot different this is more precise as if it locks into second gear

Jimmeh · 12-31-2008, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by gesswh0zbizak

i would like to know if this is common on new 09 e92 i still have under 1000k miles on the car and the clutch feels very nice and so does the gear box but from first to second its very notchly for some reason but all other gears its smooth

yeah I got the same thing....feels wierd

mmm def · 12-31-2008, 03:24 PM

2 things..get your cdv removed and when you shift into 2nd pull straight back not towards you..you are probably pulling it a little towards you which is natural.

Sal@AUTOcouture · 12-31-2008, 03:24 PM

PM HyperM3, get $30 ready and have him mod ur CDV. Weird feeling good-bye

e46charz · 12-31-2008, 03:59 PM

me too, i have a 09 with 1000 miles on it

CV335 · 12-31-2008, 04:33 PM

My 335 already has 1500 miles and I hate 1st to 2nd shifting. Will be getting a UUC short shifter very very soon. From what I read in this forum, the SSK shifter is not that much better with 1st/2nd shifting.

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Originally Posted by nj323ci

+1... need to get the modified CDV

What is the benefit of a modified CDV?

itsbrokeagain · 12-31-2008, 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by CV335

My 335 already has 1500 miles and I hate 1st to 2nd shifting. Will be getting a UUC short shifter very very soon. From what I read in this forum, the SSK shifter is not that much better with 1st/2nd shifting.

What is the benefit of a modified CDV?

i got one FS

Sal@AUTOcouture · 12-31-2008, 07:26 PM

ssk+ modified CDV= ftw

Dan335i · 01-01-2009, 03:50 PM

My 1st to 2nd is smooth as glass.Maybe because i,ve been driving a stick for 37 years.Every manual car i have ever had,which is 99% of all my cars in my 51 years i have broken in by double clutching and rev matching every gear.Even with cars notorious for having a 1st to 2nd notchy shift i can get to shift nice and smooth.

I335 · 01-01-2009, 04:00 PM

^ You double clutch every gear every time you shift? Sounds like a lot of unnecessary work. Or did you do this just during break in? If it's the latter, can you explain how that makes your gear changes smoother?

Dan335i · 01-01-2009, 05:05 PM

Just during break in.But i rev match almost 100% of the time,especially downshifting as it should be.

gesswh0zbizak · 01-01-2009, 11:50 PM

double clutch is so unnessarily im 43 and all my cars have been stick shift most i should say i used to double clutch on like my s2000 but thats pointless it doesnt effect the way u shift u just do more work for no reason u dont need double clutch a hydrolic clutch system maybe old stlye cable clutches yes but not hydrolic

CV335 · 01-02-2009, 12:16 AM

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Originally Posted by mmm def

you are probably pulling it a little towards you which is natural.

Pulling it straight back helps a little, but it is still notchy when compared to the other gears. I'm not very fond of the stock knob...I dont' know why they make it so huge...I prefer the smaller more, rounded knobs. With the UUC shifter, at the very least I expect it to be as smooth as my ex-TSX.

Alex@AKMotorwerk · 01-02-2009, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by CV335

What is the benefit of a modified CDV?

modified CDV allows the clutch fluid to flow smoothly without giving you that notchy feeling. I believe the stock CDV has a "tapered/restricted" insert inside it. Modifying it removes this restriction. Just go to Alex (HyperM3) great mod for the $30-$40 ur gonna spend

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Originally Posted by CV335

Pulling it straight back helps a little, but it is still notchy when compared to the other gears. I'm not very fond of the stock knob...I dont' know why they make it so huge...I prefer the smaller more, rounded knobs. With the UUC shifter, at the very least I expect it to be as smooth as my ex-TSX.

i got a weighted shift knob too... helped out a bit along with the CDV mod

CV335 · 01-02-2009, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by nj323ci

modified CDV allows the clutch fluid to flow smoothly without giving you that notchy feeling. I believe the stock CDV has a "tapered/restricted" insert inside it. Modifying it removes this restriction. Just go to Alex (HyperM3) great mod for the $30-$40 ur gonna spend

Is this something a local shop could do...I'm a little far from NJ

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Originally Posted by nj323ci

i got a weighted shift knob too... helped out a bit along with the CDV mod

Yes...I plan to buy one of this together with the shifter

Alex@AKMotorwerk · 01-02-2009, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CV335

Is this something a local shop could do...I'm a little far from NJ

OH, hahaha... didn't know that. I guess any reputable BMW shop could do this. Try asking in ur local forum. Usually there's a few people in the area that can do this mod for cheaper than any should could

Dan335i · 01-02-2009, 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by gesswh0zbizak

double clutch is so unnessarily im 43 and all my cars have been stick shift most i should say i used to double clutch on like my s2000 but thats pointless it doesnt effect the way u shift u just do more work for no reason u dont need double clutch a hydrolic clutch system maybe old stlye cable clutches yes but not hydrolic

i only double clutched 1st to 2nd,and only during break in.Like i said i did it with every stick car i have owned and never had a problem with 1st to 2nd gear notchiness.Thats just my way of doing things,and its always proved effective so i stuck with it.Is it neccesary? no but thats just my break in procedure with manual trans cars.

328i · 01-02-2009, 10:59 AM

I found my gearbox was notchy when new as well, after two years it's much better, but first to second are never as smooth as the other shifts. I never did the cdv mod, but got a zhp knob and it made it a bit better as well. Perhaps try changing the trans fluid with royal purple, I've read that makes a difference as well.

HyperM3 · 01-02-2009, 02:01 PM

Its the CDV ppl. Ive been driving stick for many years and when I got this car it made me feel like I had been driving improperly or had to relearn again.

After the CDV mod, the car is shifting precise and smooth. No hesitation and no slippage. Trust me, a weighted or SSK shifter is nice but wont fix what youre feeling entirely. Change out the CDV and youre good as gold.

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Sal@AUTOcouture 746 Rep 10,100 Posts Drives: E93 M3, E36 M3 Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Sofla iTrader: (30)	1,000,000 miles! Damn thats alot of miles. On a serious note, it could just be the pesky symptoms of the stock CDV ur feeling
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gesswh0zbizak Enlisted Member 2 Rep 30 Posts Drives: 328i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	its like a nice feeling but weriod because before this car i had a r56 jcw and that stick was alot different this is more precise as if it locks into second gear __________________ 2009 e92 SG/6Fl/6MT/ZCW/ZSP/ZPP-
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mmm def Colonel 147 Rep 2,611 Posts Drives: 21 330, 19 ND2 RF, 11 RX350 Join Date: Dec 2006 Location: NJ iTrader: (0)	2 things..get your cdv removed and when you shift into 2nd pull straight back not towards you..you are probably pulling it a little towards you which is natural.
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Dan335i Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,786 Posts Drives: 07 335i coupe 6MT,w/sp. pack. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: orange county NY iTrader: (2)	My 1st to 2nd is smooth as glass.Maybe because i,ve been driving a stick for 37 years.Every manual car i have ever had,which is 99% of all my cars in my 51 years i have broken in by double clutching and rev matching every gear.Even with cars notorious for having a 1st to 2nd notchy shift i can get to shift nice and smooth.
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I335 Brigadier General 126 Rep 4,248 Posts Drives: '08 335i Coupe Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: New England iTrader: (11)	^ You double clutch every gear every time you shift? Sounds like a lot of unnecessary work. Or did you do this just during break in? If it's the latter, can you explain how that makes your gear changes smoother?
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Dan335i Lieutenant Colonel 33 Rep 1,786 Posts Drives: 07 335i coupe 6MT,w/sp. pack. Join Date: Oct 2007 Location: orange county NY iTrader: (2)	Just during break in.But i rev match almost 100% of the time,especially downshifting as it should be.
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gesswh0zbizak Enlisted Member 2 Rep 30 Posts Drives: 328i coupe Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: ny iTrader: (0)	double clutch is so unnessarily im 43 and all my cars have been stick shift most i should say i used to double clutch on like my s2000 but thats pointless it doesnt effect the way u shift u just do more work for no reason u dont need double clutch a hydrolic clutch system maybe old stlye cable clutches yes but not hydrolic __________________ 2009 e92 SG/6Fl/6MT/ZCW/ZSP/ZPP-
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328i Colonel 151 Rep 2,934 Posts Drives: E46 ///M Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: central NJ iTrader: (15)	I found my gearbox was notchy when new as well, after two years it's much better, but first to second are never as smooth as the other shifts. I never did the cdv mod, but got a zhp knob and it made it a bit better as well. Perhaps try changing the trans fluid with royal purple, I've read that makes a difference as well. __________________
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HyperM3 Too many Alex's, from now on, call me Beaufort 359 Rep 6,188 Posts Drives: See Sig Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: Lawrenceville, NJ iTrader: (8)	Its the CDV ppl. Ive been driving stick for many years and when I got this car it made me feel like I had been driving improperly or had to relearn again. After the CDV mod, the car is shifting precise and smooth. No hesitation and no slippage. Trust me, a weighted or SSK shifter is nice but wont fix what youre feeling entirely. Change out the CDV and youre good as gold. __________________ 13 HD FatBob 17 A4 Glacier/Black 1st Edition/Pre+/Sport/EurocodeTMD/Racechip 16 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),14 S6 (gone),13 S6 (gone),10 S4 (gone) 07 335i(gone)
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