[92-2T]

Hi All,

Not posted for a while, been busy at work.

Bexley Motor Works http://www.bmsport.com/ had an open house Dyno day on Tuesday (Dec 30) and so I thought I would see what numbers the car now has.

I picked up a PROcede V3 PnP when in the US a few months ago when the pound was still strong and so it cost about 600 pounds, including a small code reader/re-setter. I was busy and so only just got around to fitting it before Christmas. Dead simple to do, truly plug-and-play, it took about 2 hours from start to finish taking it very steady.

Everything else on the car is stock, no other modifications at all. The PROcede is as it came out of the box, starting up on "Map 1" with "Map 2" available with a remote key fob switch. There is a "valet" mode (more or less stock) that can be activated as the start up map which I have not yet done. The Dyno tests were run on "Map 2".

The Dyno at Bexley Motor Works is a computerized Sun machine that they use for developing BMW race cars. Obviously it reads the rear wheel horsepower, but it also goes through a run down cycle that measures driveline drag to give an accurate calculation of flywheel horse power for each individual car.

I had a baseline from the same Dyno done back in July 2007, when it gave very close to the factory numbers at 308.9 BHP and 296.1 lbft.

To stop wheel spin on the rollers they add 150kg of ballast in the boot and were a bit surprised when we needed the addition of two "passengers" in the back seats as extra ballast to keep the wheels from spinning.

Got some great results with the highest power of the day, ahead of various M5 and M3s (including an E92 M3, sorry!!).

Results =
340 BHP measured at rear wheels.
389.3 BHP and 334.3 lbft calculated at the flywheel
Gain of an impressive + 80 BHP and + 8 lbft.

[Finnie]

Thats a great result, I'm hoping to install a JB3 quite soon so hoping to get similar gains, a bit less expensive though. No dyno near me so won't be able to prove it.

Only got an SSTT at the moment but I can surprise quite a few other fast cars right now, I'm even think I could have the measure of an E46 M3 having driven them back to back, just think what 380 bhp must be like!

[dxb335d]

Finnie your hacing a larf aint you?

A stock 335i will run a E46 M3 close.

380bhp and you will lick it easy,

What 1/4mile did you do last time you went? I remeber you saying 13,2?

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Finnie your hacing a larf aint you?

A stock 335i will run a E46 M3 close.

380bhp and you will lick it easy,

In terms of engine performance, no contest ( ex E46 M3 owner myself ).

However, the 335i really needs an LSD as much of the power can be wasted in wheelspin or the ECU limiting power as it knows there is not enough traction to cope.

The JB3 really does make astonishing power, nearer to 400 flywheel bhp on V Power and bags of torque. The original 1.0 chip for us pre 29.2 Progman boys was just insane !

Yves

[Yahoo]

Originally Posted by YvesD

The original 1.0 chip for us pre 29.2 Progman boys was just insane !

Correct

[Finnie]

I ran a 13.22 with the SSTT (I'll say it was with unofficial timing gear though). Beat a prosche 993, a golf r32 with virtually a start in second gear as I sat there spinning the wheels in first so changed gear. But got beaten by two car lengths by an E39 M5.

Yves I'm sure the new JB3 will be rubbish so you should sell it to me!

Agree though that an LSD is needed. I'm getting really fed up at junctions pulling out and spinning the inside rear wheel. Once I build the garage i nmight go for it.

Had an E46 M3 before the 335i and didn't mind the change at all. Then had a go of my old M3 a few months ago so drove the SSTT and M3 within minutes and found the M3 so lacking in in gear acceleration. Gave the new owner of the M3 a go of the 335i two weeks ago and he was stunned by it, he agreed that the chipped 335i wouldn't be far off if not even ahead.

[dxb335d]

Acceleration a stock 335i will live with a E46 M3, a tuned one will leave it in its wake.

Amazed you got beaten by a E39 M5 mate. You should have blizted the R32 without question, unless it was a modified one.

[Finnie]

Yeah I got the M5 off the line but somehow he hooked up and pulled away then I stayed same distance all the way. Unfortunately we both had passengers as it was a charity event and two prizes were a ride in a race and we were the prizes. I nearly choked when a 20 stone bloke strolled up to the M5, thought I had it nailed, then his sister headed to my car, same weight! I nearly cried!

R32 was hilarious. Last race of my night so also had another passenger (10 stone chick this time). I got a bit excited and gave it too much so sat in a cloud of burning rubber watching the 4 wheel drive R32 leave me down the runway. Dumped clutch, grabbed second at about 10mph and then proceeded to sail past the R32 about 2/3 of the way down the track. It was an old mate from school - he was gutted!

Good night, also did the first "headline" race of the night. I got called and went to the line to wait for the second car to park up. Loads of shouts to me "nice car mate" etc etc, then a Porcshe 911 came along and all I heard was "oh you are f%&£d now, ha ha, you have no chance against that" Of course I won! Now I couldn't hear anything from the driving seat but my mates all told me it was brilliant. Some of the crowd were in silent awe and the rest were just screaming that they couldn't believe the boring black BMW (albeit lowered on BBS Lms and polished to a glowing shine and looking fantastic that night!) whipped the porsche.

I smiled! Now never been a celebrity but got an awful lot of attention that night as folks I had never ever met came up to look at the car, that night out I even had one shout of "Finnie - I love You and your car" from a girl I never met in my life before

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by Finnie

Yves I'm sure the new JB3 will be rubbish so you should sell it to me!

Will let you know just how 'rubbish' when it arrives in the post !!

If the US guys are telling the truth, we are talking 0-62mph in the mid 4's type of rubbish.

Yves

[dxb335d]

The US guys, time it with there speedo and and stopwatch so not an accurate 4.5 0-60 mate. Also different Elevation levels atmospheric pressures also. Most running DR's also.

[G33]

Yves, u finally gone and got the JB tuner?! Congrats let me know if it lives up to what ive said and Terry's customer service

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

The US guys, time it with there speedo and and stopwatch so not an accurate 4.5 0-60 mate. Also different Elevation levels atmospheric pressures also. Most running DR's also.

They are actually using Racelogic ( and other ) GPS timing equipment so it ought to be reliable...

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by G33

Yves, u finally gone and got the JB tuner?! Congrats let me know if it lives up to what ive said and Terry's customer service

Have been an adopter since Sept 08 !

It does exactly what it says on the tin and Terry is awesome on the service side as you said.

Have the BMS single intake too which is nice.

Yves

[Finnie]

But he hates it and is going to sell it to me

[dxb335d]

Originally Posted by YvesD

They are actually using Racelogic ( and other ) GPS timing equipment so it ought to be reliable...

Oh really, when ive spoke and seen the vids on the very same forum andf others its all with stop watches.
Still, cars run quicker in the US no matter how accurate thw equipment.

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by dxb335d

Oh really, when ive spoke and seen the vids on the very same forum andf others its all with stop watches.
Still, cars run quicker in the US no matter how accurate thw equipment.

Tis true, they do put on a good show dont they !

[Aurora Bearialis]

those results are tempting me to get a PROcede rather than a JB3

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by rameal999

those results are tempting me to get a PROcede rather than a JB3

Why good Sir ?

[G33]

think the below were stock. were debating milliseconds again here....

regardless its still fast for a rep. mobile. im pretty sure a tuned 335i can hit 60 in at least 4.5 secs. anyway food for thought:-

dazza posted this a while ago ( http://www.e90post.com/forums/showth...ight=0-60+335i )

http://videos.streetfire.net/video/2...0-60_84367.htm

http://forums.bimmerforums.com/forum...d.php?t=658693

[YvesD]

Originally Posted by Finnie

But he hates it and is going to sell it to me

Yeah, I particularly hate the way the front end goes light, the back end squirms for grip and the whole shebang rockets off up the road like it should have cost £50k more from the factory

And its all done in the best possible taste...

Yves

[dxb335d]

I timed that 4.8, but again not an accurate way of doing it...

No doubt a 400bhp 335i at the pod coudl acheive a 4.5-4.7 0-60....

But on the road i aint so sure, Cars do run quicker in the US Kin.

As proved by there quarters magazine tests compared with UK mag tests and quarter results.

All relative though. As its the same for most cars.

[gIzzE]

Tuned 335i is seriously quick, if you can get the traction off the line.

When I had the procede on mine I got a couple of 4.6 seconds, most were just under 5 seconds though as getting bite is a nightmare.
I think that an LSD would transform a 335i into something pretty special, without one it is just a very quick motorway mile muncher, nothing wrong with that, but a remap and an LSD would turn it into something else.