Michelin Alpine PA3s

BDMBimmer · 02-03-2009, 03:44 PM

I'm running 225/18/40 on all four corners and was wondering what other people thought of them. I hardly drive this car so I went with these because I thought ride quality and noise would be better. But man I don't feel very safe with these when there is snow on the ground. Dry weather these tires are amazing but with snow and ice I find them horrible.

E30M3Driver · 02-03-2009, 08:52 PM

PA3s are definately biased toward the dry, however, they are still a snow tire, so compared to other tires, they stick pretty well, but you will still get lots of wheel spin in the dry, so "amazing" doesn't come to mind, but rather "pretty good for a snow tire" does.

In the snow and slick conditions, similar thing, "Ok" comes to mind rather than "horrible".

So this tire is a good all-around winter tire IMO, and is what I use for the conditions I face - mostly cold and dry with a handful of 0.5-4" snows, and for the worst conditions, I have a Jeep to drive.

For stronger snow performance you would want to select something like Dunlop Wintersport M3's, but dry performance will be less, though nothing like the old Blizzak W50s.

Sounds like you prefer the confidence of a tire biased toward snow.

Gary@TireRack · 02-04-2009, 09:32 AM

Well stated!

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BDMBimmer · 02-04-2009, 09:32 AM

Most of the reviews I have read said they were great in deeper snow, I was just wondering if it was just me. I have a XI and like I said above I really have no confidence in them especially on snowy highways. Next year I will be changing to something "biased towards snow".

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BDMBimmer First Lieutenant 18 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 2008 3 series Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (1)	Michelin Alpine PA3s I'm running 225/18/40 on all four corners and was wondering what other people thought of them. I hardly drive this car so I went with these because I thought ride quality and noise would be better. But man I don't feel very safe with these when there is snow on the ground. Dry weather these tires are amazing but with snow and ice I find them horrible.
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E30M3Driver Captain 37 Rep 794 Posts Drives: 2021 M2C, 97 M3 Join Date: Jan 2006 Location: Here, there iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW 335i [8.00] 1989 BMW M3 [8.20]	PA3s are definately biased toward the dry, however, they are still a snow tire, so compared to other tires, they stick pretty well, but you will still get lots of wheel spin in the dry, so "amazing" doesn't come to mind, but rather "pretty good for a snow tire" does. In the snow and slick conditions, similar thing, "Ok" comes to mind rather than "horrible". So this tire is a good all-around winter tire IMO, and is what I use for the conditions I face - mostly cold and dry with a handful of 0.5-4" snows, and for the worst conditions, I have a Jeep to drive. For stronger snow performance you would want to select something like Dunlop Wintersport M3's, but dry performance will be less, though nothing like the old Blizzak W50s. Sounds like you prefer the confidence of a tire biased toward snow. __________________ Performance Center Delivery, June 21, 2013: 2013 E92 335is \| Le Mans Blue \| Gray Leather with Black \| 6MT \| 19" Style 313's \| Michelin Pilot Super Sports \| BMW Carbon Fiber Rear Spoiler \|
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 372 Rep 4,742 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Well stated! Winter http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=BH8&...nter/index.jsp __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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BDMBimmer First Lieutenant 18 Rep 319 Posts Drives: 2008 3 series Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Ontario, Canada iTrader: (1)	Most of the reviews I have read said they were great in deeper snow, I was just wondering if it was just me. I have a XI and like I said above I really have no confidence in them especially on snowy highways. Next year I will be changing to something "biased towards snow".
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