335d Engine Compartment

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 12:43 AM

Some pics. Wonder how this puppy will respond to tuning?

Bimmer Nerd · 02-21-2009, 12:44 AM

what kind of tunning ?? there are mods out already for 335d ??

vgame64 · 02-21-2009, 12:53 AM

The 335d should respond very favorably to tunes. Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque.

Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".

shaddai · 02-21-2009, 02:05 AM

is that... a dipstick?

ar design · 02-21-2009, 02:23 AM

We already have flash tuning available

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 02:41 AM

It will be a fun day when the 335d is gunning for our 1/4 mile records

sd390r · 02-21-2009, 04:51 AM

you think theyll be able to make it faster than the 35i? dont know shit about diesel engines

edo · 02-21-2009, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by vgame64

Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque.

Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".

I'd say 350-380whp. ESS reflash makes 335hp and 630Nm (335d). Keeping in mind that 335i with ESS reflash (stage 3) makes almost the same power as Vishnu or JB3, a well tuned 335d shouldn't exceed 370-380whp, imo. Nevertheless, performance would be impressive.

Dave_3 · 02-21-2009, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by godora

what kind of tunning ?? there are mods out already for 335d ??

Go to the UK section - There has already been well over 2 years of development on these engines.

No need to speculate.

D.

hotrod182 · 02-21-2009, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Dave_3

Go to the UK section - There has already been well over 2 years of development on these engines.

No need to speculate.

D.

I was looking at the times of this chipped 335d. Mid 13's at 105mph, right about the same as a stock 335i. But with great traction, (1.80 sec 60') high 12's are there. Not bad. How much faster will they go is the question.

http://www.dragtimes.com/BMW--335d-Drag-Racing.html

brianhn1 · 02-21-2009, 10:33 AM

I think the 335d will always need more peak power than the 335i to get similar times just because the torque curve peaks/plateaus at a much smaller RPM range. It only has a redline of 5000 RPM, compared to our 7000 RPM.

cn555ic · 02-21-2009, 12:15 PM

Wow thats nice...That engine cover is HUGE!

Insider · 02-21-2009, 02:14 PM

A tuned 335d runs 106mph in the 1/4 mile, no match for a tuned 335i.

Forrest Gump 9 · 02-22-2009, 10:04 AM

Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??

hotrod182 · 02-22-2009, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Forrest Gump 9

Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??

I'm pretty sure the turbo set up is totally different. Someone had even said they were sequential. I haven't had the time to read up on it though. I am really interested in the torque capacity of the transmission though. As these engines put out around 400lbs of torque stock!

stressdoc · 02-22-2009, 12:43 PM

Sequential bi-turbo. Little one for low rpm, quick spooling; big one for serious power.

Septro · 02-22-2009, 12:50 PM

Someone said 30psi.. Sounds like a stretch but it's obvious the Tranny already can take an enormous amount of stock torque, but anything in the close to 500 torque range would be brutal on traction and without the topend HP - I can't imagine beating 335i drag records.

trixman · 02-22-2009, 02:02 PM

as Dave_3 said, there's already been 2 years of development in the UK for the 335d. There have been plenty of back to back tests on road and track. The latest one had standard, press cars and tuned versions of 335i and 335d, and around the track the tuned ones were identical in lap times. So no, nothing in it at all reallly, although there's not as much tuning products available (exhausts etc)

nicklockard · 05-15-2018, 06:22 PM

It's pretty cool to read this time capsule thread. The 335d's are now hitting the 11's and 385-395 hp is easily obtainable with about $3,000 of goodies (turbo-back 304SS exhaust, intercooler and intake tubing upgrades, new tune) or for another $1000(upgraded fuel pump and airbox) 410+ hp achievable. Torque is limited to what the transmissions can take. Lots of guys at 625 ft-lbs now.

When they figure out how to increase RPM's (it will happen), you gassers better watch out

Bang for the buck can't be beat, is all I'm saying. I think gas version cars will always be faster ultimately, but with diesel we can have our cake and eat it too. Nice to have mountains of torque for passing power, and not rev the shit out of the motor. I call it stealth power--I pass people before they even suspect I'm trying to.

Edit: and we're waaay past 30psi tunes, lol. Stock is 28.5, mild tune is 33-35. Hot tunes can go higher, but not much point since we're more fuel-limited.

GLU_WEIN · 05-16-2018, 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by nicklockard

It's pretty cool to read this time capsule thread. The 335d's are now hitting the 11's and 385-395 hp is easily obtainable with about $3,000 of goodies (turbo-back 304SS exhaust, intercooler and intake tubing upgrades, new tune) or for another $1000(upgraded fuel pump and airbox) 410+ hp achievable. Torque is limited to what the transmissions can take. Lots of guys at 625 ft-lbs now.

When they figure out how to increase RPM's (it will happen), you gassers better watch out

Bang for the buck can't be beat, is all I'm saying. I think gas version cars will always be faster ultimately, but with diesel we can have our cake and eat it too. Nice to have mountains of torque for passing power, and not rev the shit out of the motor. I call it stealth power--I pass people before they even suspect I'm trying to.

Edit: and we're waaay past 30psi tunes, lol. Stock is 28.5, mild tune is 33-35. Hot tunes can go higher, but not much point since we're more fuel-limited.

Love it.. hey gassers.. surprise!!

nicklockard · 05-16-2018, 11:27 AM

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Originally Posted by DieselDemonDM

Love it.. hey gassers.. surprise!!

LOL. Yeah I was doing a google search for something else and this thread popped up and made me laugh. Cutting edge on the 335d's is 465-480 hp with custom turbos and custom injectors. But then that's a $6500 rabbit hole I don't want to go down.

Surprise suckas! LOL.

dmanb2b · 05-16-2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by nicklockard

LOL. Yeah I was doing a google search for something else and this thread popped up and made me laugh. Cutting edge on the 335d's is 465-480 hp with custom turbos and custom injectors. But then that's a $6500 rabbit hole I don't want to go down.

Surprise suckas! LOL.

No need for custom injectors to get to 480hp...hybrids and meth should get you there. Although the stuff whitbread and a few others are working on right now is next turn of crank

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vgame64 Colonel 143 Rep 2,479 Posts Drives: BMW 335i Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: USA iTrader: (9)	The 335d should respond very favorably to tunes. Once the restrictive exhaust is removed, I anticipate 400-450whp and oodles of torque. Of course this is all just fact-less speculation on my part on what "feels right".
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brianhn1 Slow Mo 15 Rep 534 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: US iTrader: (0)	I think the 335d will always need more peak power than the 335i to get similar times just because the torque curve peaks/plateaus at a much smaller RPM range. It only has a redline of 5000 RPM, compared to our 7000 RPM.
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Forrest Gump 9 New Member 1 Rep 22 Posts Drives: 07 white 335i sedan Join Date: Jan 2009 Location: ohio iTrader: (0)	Just wondering if the 335d used the same turbo as the 335i? Anyway, the diesel engine can withstand alot more abuse than the gasoline. So 30 psi tune anyone??
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Septro Banned 78 Rep 1,649 Posts Drives: '08 e90 335xi Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: C-Bus, OH iTrader: (1)	Someone said 30psi.. Sounds like a stretch but it's obvious the Tranny already can take an enormous amount of stock torque, but anything in the close to 500 torque range would be brutal on traction and without the topend HP - I can't imagine beating 335i drag records.
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trixman Major 38 Rep 1,269 Posts Drives: A Rental Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Creepy Crawley iTrader: (1) Garage List 2007 BMW E92 335d [0.00] 2003 M3 CSL [0.00] 2007 E92 335i [0.00]	as Dave_3 said, there's already been 2 years of development in the UK for the 335d. There have been plenty of back to back tests on road and track. The latest one had standard, press cars and tuned versions of 335i and 335d, and around the track the tuned ones were identical in lap times. So no, nothing in it at all reallly, although there's not as much tuning products available (exhausts etc)
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nicklockard Second Lieutenant 46 Rep 281 Posts Drives: 2009 w/Nav; paddleshifters Join Date: Aug 2016 Location: Phoenix iTrader: (0)	It's pretty cool to read this time capsule thread. The 335d's are now hitting the 11's and 385-395 hp is easily obtainable with about $3,000 of goodies (turbo-back 304SS exhaust, intercooler and intake tubing upgrades, new tune) or for another $1000(upgraded fuel pump and airbox) 410+ hp achievable. Torque is limited to what the transmissions can take. Lots of guys at 625 ft-lbs now. When they figure out how to increase RPM's (it will happen), you gassers better watch out Bang for the buck can't be beat, is all I'm saying. I think gas version cars will always be faster ultimately, but with diesel we can have our cake and eat it too. Nice to have mountains of torque for passing power, and not rev the shit out of the motor. I call it stealth power--I pass people before they even suspect I'm trying to. Edit: and we're waaay past 30psi tunes, lol. Stock is 28.5, mild tune is 33-35. Hot tunes can go higher, but not much point since we're more fuel-limited. __________________ SLOW & SMOKEY. My car loses to every Chevy Malibu unless I mash the throttle. Mods: ATM 304SS Turbo-back exhaust, w/ ox-cat ATM stepped intercooler ATM silicone tubing kits (hot & cold sides) JR 2.8 tune Whitbread CP3R90 HPFP AArod EGR racepipeExecuhitch hidden hitch *Stage 3 transmission tune
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