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      04-28-2009, 07:16 PM   #1
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my dyno results!!! Help want more power!!

i want to squeeze more power out of my car. i have everything listed at the bottom. Any advice or tips??

this was my first dyno run. i ran the car with Race gas.

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      04-28-2009, 07:17 PM   #2
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yeah get a V3 or JB3
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      04-28-2009, 07:19 PM   #3
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Sir, please set the crack pipe on the ground and step back from it.

Seriously, though, you won't get much more power without Meth injection or upgraded turbos.

Take solace from the fact the we here in California make less power with the same mods since we're stuck with 91 octane gas.
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yeah get a V3 or JB3
you really think the v3 is worth it??

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Sir, please set the crack pipe on the ground and step back from it.

Seriously, though, you won't get much more power without Meth injection or upgraded turbos.

Take solace from the fact the we here in California make less power with the same mods since we're stuck with 91 octane gas.
i want the bigger turbos but Asr hasn't released them yet. the meth injection no a big fan, but i do want to use nitrous to freeze my intercooler but dont know of any kits.
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      04-28-2009, 07:34 PM   #5
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382 is not bad with that ancient AA processor
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Sir, please set the crack pipe on the ground and step back from it.

Seriously, though, you won't get much more power without Meth injection or upgraded turbos.

Take solace from the fact the we here in California make less power with the same mods since we're stuck with 91 octane gas.
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382??!?! Thats alot of power on AA Processor. But yeah , what everyone else said, Meth or turbos
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shiv should jump in and convince me to buy his procede lol

im not a fan of meth, but what really annoys me about meth is that i dnt have much of a trunk and if i was going to do meth then i would have to do a special box and AA told me i have to be careful with the pump and everything. i really would like a bottle of nitrous or cryogen and spray it infront of the intercooler. its basically the same as meth from what i understand about it.
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meth injection and JB3 will get you over 400
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shiv should jump in and convince me to buy his procede lol
Don't buy the PROcede if you want 'more' power, because you've already got just about all the peak power you can get with your mods. Get the PROcede for smoother power delivery, code clearing, and more area under the curve so you have more power not just up top.
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get a procede v3 and meth injection lamia... u'll pickup more power easily

http://www.holley.com/16034NOS.asp < here's the intercooler sprayer

meth injection will make more power than that though
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get a procede v3 and meth injection lamia... u'll pickup more power easily

http://www.holley.com/16034NOS.asp < here's the intercooler sprayer

meth injection will make more power than that though
idk how the meth will work because i dont have a trunk. look at my album. i dont really have a place to put a small tank of meth. a bottle yes because i will just mount it on top of the amp.

also im a little lost when it comes to installing that new V3 especially since i have to switch mine out
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well do you want power or trunk space? from the looks of your first post, you want power.

ASR or AA can do your meth kit. Besides. why are you running race gas everyday when you can get a meth kit with the same results? or do you like emptying cans of race gas in your driveway? its a hassle. I dynod the same numbers on the same dyno with V3 with 93.

and you cant compare the V3 installation to the AA. I can help if you pull the trigger, i uninstalled and installed 2 tunes while i was strapped to that dyno @ Machines Gone Wild.
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i wouldn't recommend installing a bottle of nitrous on top of an amp... if it gets too hot (especially playing music and driving in florida heat) u could be asking for trouble.

The trunk poses a problem, but i guess thats the price you pay for having a custom trunk.


yea the chip install is a joke, it takes about 15-20 minutes at most to install a procede.
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well do you want power or trunk space? from the looks of your first post, you want power.

ASR or AA can do your meth kit. Besides. why are you running race gas everyday when you can get a meth kit with the same results? or do you like emptying cans of race gas in your driveway? its a hassle. I dynod the same numbers on the same dyno with V3 with 93.

and you cant compare the V3 installation to the AA. I can help if you pull the trigger, i uninstalled and installed 2 tunes while i was strapped to that dyno @ Machines Gone Wild.
your all right! i think what im going to do is removing one of my batteries and replace it with the meth kit and buy the V3, but this will be after the meet on Saturday.

Quick Question does the meth kit always work or do you have to hit a switch like nitrous?? if it always works what happens if i run out of meth??
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i wouldn't recommend installing a bottle of nitrous on top of an amp... if it gets too hot (especially playing music and driving in florida heat) u could be asking for trouble.

The trunk poses a problem, but i guess thats the price you pay for having a custom trunk.


yea the chip install is a joke, it takes about 15-20 minutes at most to install a procede.
nitrous shouldnt be a problem and they have pressure released on them anyways in case

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the meth kits come with electronic controllers usually that inject based on intake air volume/speed

snow motorsports makes some nice kits from my experiences

and as for your space problem you can by underhood tanks that actually tie into your washer resovior and then you just put meth in the tank since its basically the same as washer fluid minus the color, this also keeps them out of the way and keeps form makeing you run long lines or wires

the low washer light then also functions as a low meth light

if you have meth and arent tuned for it, its basically like running a higher octance fuel so if you run out nothing

if you are tuned for it and run out, there could be issues since the tune would be for the specific energy levels contained in the fuel/meth


this is what i have taken form my experiences hope it helps
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God I hate how lean these cars run...I just got my 335 this past weekend and every graph I have seen is lean...can a tuner chime in and answer why? From one source, they run lean from the factory, but with a tune, why wouldn't a tuner/processor make the AFRs safer, say in the 11.8 range?
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God I hate how lean these cars run...I just got my 335 this past weekend and every graph I have seen is lean...can a tuner chime in and answer why? From one source, they run lean from the factory, but with a tune, why wouldn't a tuner/processor make the AFRs safer, say in the 11.8 range?
the car is direct injected. you can afford to run them that way. it is completely different than "normal" fuel injected cars.

do a google/wiki search for "direct injection". it is completely safe for the car to be that lean.
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God I hate how lean these cars run...I just got my 335 this past weekend and every graph I have seen is lean...can a tuner chime in and answer why? From one source, they run lean from the factory, but with a tune, why wouldn't a tuner/processor make the AFRs safer, say in the 11.8 range?
because this car has high pressure direct injection
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A JB3 has been proven to give you more power. And Terry can always make you a custom map.
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A JB3 has been proven to give you more power. And Terry can always make you a custom map.
idk man I'm falling towards the V3
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Wow! nice numbers... I think you are doing pretty good for what you have.
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