[YianniM3]

whats up guys
so i have 35% tint on the sides and 20% on the back windshield i have been pulled over once just so the cop could check and he let me go but i wanted to get them darker or at least the back seats darker. If i do get them darker and i get ticketed for them does this show up on my insurance or is it just like a parking ticket i pay it and its over?

[Arustik1]

Shows up...

"Moving violation"

[Mr. BMW]

Originally Posted by nixta325

whats up guys
so i have 35% tint on the sides and 20% on the back windshield i have been pulled over once just so the cop could check and he let me go but i wanted to get them darker or at least the back seats darker. If i do get them darker and i get ticketed for them does this show up on my insurance or is it just like a parking ticket i pay it and its over?

Why do you want them darker?
Inspection stations are also cracking down on dark tint, so it would be harder to get an inspection sticker, unless you know of a place that would not give you a hard time.

[jpsum]

keep it the way it is and you'll be fine.

[YianniM3]

i dunno i just like the dark so that i cant be seen at all but im going to keep it as is, the cops in my town have pulled me over for the most useless things so might as well leave it

[TL]

i agree dark tint looks good but it's a hassle and easy target for cops to pull you over. my window tint is illegal according to several gas stations (registered at 28%) so now every time i see a cop i have to roll down my windows before passing them.

[GGreek5]

Originally Posted by TL

i agree dark tint looks good but it's a hassle and easy target for cops to pull you over. my window tint is illegal according to several gas stations (registered at 28%) so now every time i see a cop i have to roll down my windows before passing them.

I do the exact same thing!!

[Thunder Dump]

Not to mention it's a $250 fine. However, it is *not* a moving violation since it is an owner violation due to improper equipment on the vehicle.

[virtualbong]

Originally Posted by TL

i agree dark tint looks good but it's a hassle and easy target for cops to pull you over. my window tint is illegal according to several gas stations (registered at 28%) so now every time i see a cop i have to roll down my windows before passing them.

I had mine rolled down, but they stopped me for "Altered Exhaust" and then made me roll up my window for him to check the tint. I was wondering...did he have the right to check my window? I am appealing this ticket because I felt like he found my guilty on the spot since he should not of known I even had tinted windows. I also am questioning why he stopped me because I was not speeding nor was I disturbing the peace by excessive exhaust noise. You can barely hear my exhaust when cruising. So I was going to ask him if he was an exhaust expert to know by sight that my exhaust was altered.

btw. this was for my old G coupe.

[jopa489]

I'd keep it the way it is. Don't give them even more of an excuse to pull you over.

[cyphr]

Originally Posted by jopa489

I'd keep it the way it is. Don't give them even more of an excuse to pull you over.

I agree. Anything that avoids cop attention is a plus in my book. With dark tints, you'll be asking to be pulled over and they'll be looking for other modifications as well (exhaust).

[Arustik1]

Originally Posted by Thunder Dump

Not to mention it's a $250 fine. However, it is *not* a moving violation since it is an owner violation due to improper equipment on the vehicle.

I'm 95 percent sure it is a moving violation...my buddy who's my insurance provider told me.

[virtualbong]

Originally Posted by Arustik1

I'm 95 percent sure it is a moving violation...my buddy who's my insurance provider told me.

If they stop you because of your tints then it is a moving violation. If they ticket you while your car was parked...I don't think that is a moving violation.

Too bad we do not have someone local who is in law enforcement. In my old G forum, we had someone who was a cop and he helped answer a lot of our questions.

[Arustik1]

Originally Posted by virtualbong

If they stop you because of your tints then it is a moving violation. If they ticket you while your car was parked...I don't think that is a moving violation.

Too bad we do not have someone local who is in law enforcement. In my old G forum, we had someone who was a cop and he helped answer a lot of our questions.

They cannot write up a tint ticket without checking with their tool and if your windows are rolled up they cant check...am I right?

[cyphr]

Originally Posted by Arustik1

They cannot write up a tint ticket without checking with their tool and if your windows are rolled up they cant check...am I right?

Right. They need to check with their tint meter before writing anything that will stand up in court

[Thunder Dump]

Originally Posted by Arustik1

I'm 95 percent sure it is a moving violation...my buddy who's my insurance provider told me.

It's not a moving violation. It's an equipment violation.

[I335]

I thought only the back windows (back windshield and back sides) we impacted by the tinting laws. I think you can paint the back windshield black if you want. Check with the cops if you just want to do the backs - I think it's OK. I.e. no different than a van with no back windows at all, right?

[Thunder Dump]

Originally Posted by I335

I thought only the back windows (back windshield and back sides) we impacted by the tinting laws. I think you can paint the back windshield black if you want. Check with the cops if you just want to do the backs - I think it's OK. I.e. no different than a van with no back windows at all, right?

Nope, windows have to be no less than 35% all the way around, even though a van may not have a window back there.

Here is the law in MA on tint:

Chapter 90: Section 9D. Windshields and windows obscured by nontransparent materials

Section 9D. No person shall operate any motor vehicle upon any public way or upon any way to which the public shall have the right of access with any of the following affixed thereto:

(1) a sign, poster or sticker on the front windshield, the side windows immediately adjacent to the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat, the side windows immediately to the rear of the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat and the rear window in such a manner so as to obstruct, impede or distort the vision of the operator.

(2) nontransparent or sunscreen material, window application, reflective film or nonreflective film used in any way to cover or treat the front windshield, the side windows immediately adjacent to the right and left of the operator’s seat, the side windows immediately to the rear of the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat and the rear window, so as to make such windshield and said window glass areas in any way nontransparent or obscured from either the interior or exterior thereof.

This section shall not apply to:

(1) motor vehicles manufactured with windshields and window glass areas equipped in accordance with specifications of 49 Code of Federal Regulations 571.205 as authorized by 15 USC 1407.

(2) the use of draperies, louvers, or other special window treatments, except those specifically designated in this section, on the rear window, or a side window to the rear of the driver if the vehicle is equipped with two outside mirrors, one on each side, adjusted so that the driver has a clear view of the highway behind the vehicle.

(3) federal, state and local law enforcement agencies, watch guard or patrol agencies licensed under the provisions of section twenty-five of chapter one hundred and forty-seven and college, university and hospital police agencies appointed under the provisions of section sixty-three of chapter twenty-two C utilizing K-9 teams in a motor vehicle while in the regular performance of their duties provided said motor vehicle is equipped with two outside mirrors, one on each side, adjusted so that the driver has a clear view of the highway behind the vehicle.

(4) the use of nontransparent or sunscreen material or window application which has a total visible light reflectance of not more than thirty-five per cent or a visible light transmittance of not less than thirty-five per cent on the side windows immediately adjacent to the right and left of the operator’s seat, the side windows immediately to the rear of the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat or on the rear window if the vehicle is equipped with two outside mirrors, one on each side, adjusted so that the driver has a clear view of the highway behind the vehicle.

(5) the use of any transparent material limited to the uppermost 6″ along the top of the windshield, provided such strip does not encroach upon the driver’s direct forward viewing area as more particularly described and defined in applicable Federal Motor Vehicle Safety Standards.

(6) a vehicle registered in another state, territory or another country or province.

(7) the use of nontransparent or sunscreen material, window application, reflective film or nonreflective film used in any way to cover or treat the side windows immediately to the rear of the operator’s seat and the front passenger seat and the rear window so as to make such window glass areas in any way nontransparent or obscured from either the interior or exterior thereof of a private passenger motor vehicle registered under the provisions of this chapter for public livery and hired for that purpose for any period of time which exclusion shall not include a taxicab.

(8) special window treatment or application determined necessary by a licensed physician, for the protection of the owner or operator of a private passenger motor vehicle who is determined to be light or photosensitive. Applications for such exemption based upon such medical reason or reasons shall be made in writing to the medical advisory board established under section eight C. All applications must be supported by a written attestation of a physician licensed to practice in this commonwealth of the necessity thereof. Upon granting of such exemption by the board, the registrar shall issue a sufficiently noticeable sticker to the applicant which shall be affixed to the side window immediately adjacent to the operator. The registrar shall keep a record of all such exemption stickers so issued.

The registrar shall, in accordance with the provisions of section thirty-one, establish rules and regulations to provide standards to measure the aforementioned percentage of reflectance and transmittance of light, and shall provide for testing of any motor vehicle glazing alleged to be in violation of this section. A statement from the registrar attesting that such glazing treated or covered with nontransparent or sunscreen material window application or reflective film is in compliance with the provisions of this section shall be prima facie evidence of such compliance in any prosecution thereof.

No person shall manufacture, sell, offer for sale or trade, equip or operate a motor vehicle in the commonwealth in violation of the provisions of this section; provided, however, that nothing in this section shall be construed to prohibit the manufacture or sale of reflective or nonreflective film in the commonwealth.

Violations of any provisions of this section shall be punishable by a fine of not more than two hundred and fifty dollars. Upon a third or subsequent conviction of a violation of the provisions of this section, the registrar shall suspend the operator’s license of a person so convicted for a period not to exceed ninety days.

[I335]

I stand corrected - thanks for the info.

[virtualbong]

Originally Posted by Thunder Dump

It's not a moving violation. It's an equipment violation.

Where does it state that in the post above? I cannot find it.

[Thunder Dump]

Originally Posted by virtualbong

Where does it state that in the post above? I cannot find it.

It doesn't, since the law doesn't dictate what is a moving violation and what isn't (with some rare exceptions). In MA, it's up to the Insurance Commission to decide.

[Arustik1]

Originally Posted by Thunder Dump

It doesn't, since the law doesn't dictate what is a moving violation and what isn't (with some rare exceptions). In MA, it's up to the Insurance Commission to decide.

Oh well that changes everything I think...then my guy wasn't bs'ing me...