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02-20-2010, 06:45 PM | #1 |
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E90 8.56 second 60-130 time with VBOX
OK, so the title is "a bit misleading" as the car is my friend's E90 M3 with an ESS tuning supercharger kit.
Here are the vitals and VBOX read outs. Setup ESS Tuning VT2-575 S/C Kit ESS Tuning Stage 2 DCT Software DINAN Racing Mid-Pipe DINAN Exhaust DINAN 3.62 Diff 20" Wheels PS2 Tires 295/25 Rear Tires 91 Octane Outside Temp 72 Degrees DCT Mode S6 used See here for the whole story. http://www.m3post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=352132
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02-20-2010, 07:26 PM | #4 |
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I've been in this car, it's spinning at 60 MPH.
I'm fairly certain this car would walk Shiv's car from a roll. You might also note the altitude that this was tested at (1620') and the fact that he's running 91 octane with no methanol or other octane additive on conservative boost. 535 RWHP P.S.
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02-20-2010, 07:49 PM | #6 |
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It's a shame that the M3 has to be supercharged to achieve those kinds of 60-130 times. I know of one NA car with a few bolt-on mods that does better than that 8.56 second time.
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02-20-2010, 08:25 PM | #8 | |
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FYI: This morning my best 60-100 was 4.2 seconds. --------------------------LEFT: ZR1 times--------------Right: 911 TT times
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02-21-2010, 04:12 AM | #9 | |
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0-110 times for example are obviously wrong (above 16s...). BTW no surpise that the 911tt is faster in stand still acceleration. More weight on the rear, all wheel drive and (I think) double clutch automatic transmission. |
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02-21-2010, 04:23 AM | #10 | |
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02-21-2010, 04:26 AM | #11 | |
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Yeah they probably meant 8.x seconds 0-110. If the tests numbers are all derived from one run, there is absolutely nothing faulty with subtracting the differences between the MPH splits. The magazines don't test 0-30. Then test 0-60. Then stop, and test 0-100, etc. They are from one run. And if it takes x amount of time to hit 60, and y amount of time to hit 100mph. Then y-x would be an accurate 60-100mph time. Yes, you can optimize your 60-100 with a earlier/later shift etc, but you get my point. What is interesting is the between 60-100mph, the Porsche widens the gap. So the 2010 Porsche Turbo will walk the regular Z06??
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02-21-2010, 04:38 AM | #12 | |
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A Z06 has the same (claimed) power of the 911 but traction, torque delivery and transmission can not be compared at all. No surprise from my point of view if the Vette is quite slower overall. |
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02-21-2010, 11:08 AM | #13 | |
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But first, back to my original comparison. A Z06 vs 911TT on paper would be the better comparison. But this magazine test is of the ZR1 vs the 911TT. On paper with 138 less HP, you would think the Porsche would be thoroughly walked. Especially 60-100mph. And since when do you add 133hp to a similar car (ZR1 vs Z06) and only gain 4mph? The Ferrari 599B has 27 less HP, weighs 500lbs MORE, and runs neck and neck with the ZR1. Lets try a diffent publication than Car and Driver, Motortrend lists the Grandsport at 12.4 @ 116.5mph (reference mph) Motortrend lists the Z06 at 11.7 @ 123.7mph (+69hp: +7.2mph Motortrend lists the ZR1 at 11.4 @ 125.5mph (+133hp:+1.8mph!!) Does anyone else see something wrong with this? Even if the ZR1 does trap at 130mph, still doesn't add up.
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02-21-2010, 11:24 AM | #14 |
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Also, I ran my 60-130 time using JB3 2.0 this time around. 9.10 seconds, just waiting to get it verified by the moderator on 6Speedonline. These were back to back runs with no cool down. So I fully expect to better that time. But you can already see I am nipping at the heels of the 8.95 second E92 SC M3 listed. How anyone can get a sub 4 second run on a 335i still baffles me. Even on this run, my 60-100 was over 4 seconds. (4.10 sec)
Seriously, to even run close to the 8's on stock turbos shows how impressive our 335i BMWs are! 60 -130 mph (96.5-209.2 kph): Time – Username / Car / NA-TC-SC / # of shifts 5.61 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift 6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift 6.80 - TaZaM3 / E46 M3/ TC / 1 shift 6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift 7.86 - Maros / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 8.56 - biglare / E90 M3 DCT / SC / 2 shifts 8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 8.95 - sammyrusso / E92 M3 DCT / SC / 3 shifts 9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts 9.10 - Hotrod182 / 335i Coupe / 2 shifts 9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts 10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts 10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts 10.8 - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT/ Bolt-Ons 11.0 - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts 11.2 - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift 12.9 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 12.9 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe 13.7 - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift 14.3 - hiboostingm3 / Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift Lets see some other 335i 60-130 vbox times posted!!
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2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) Last edited by hotrod182; 02-21-2010 at 11:47 AM.. |
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02-21-2010, 12:14 PM | #15 |
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I agree that the 335i is a very impressive platform. However, I have a race being set up against a zr1 once the weather warms up with my 911 turbo. I am trapping in the 130 range and doing 60-100 in 3.2-3.4 sec. However I have seen him race a Z06 last fall and seen that from 0-125ish the two were pretty close but after that the zr1 started pulling pretty hard. My main point was that compairing the two cars have alot of factors that may give the 911 an unfair advantage when going from the dig. My second point was that I had a hard time seeing any stock turbo 335i keeping up with a zr1.
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02-21-2010, 12:36 PM | #16 | |
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The thing about the 335i, is originally people thought they were merely launch queens with no upper speed power. People are clearly seeing they can achieve some pretty respectable upper speed mph too!
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2019 i3s Terra, 2008 Black 335i Sedan. 11.11@ 129.47 mph 2008 Monaco Blue JB3 2.0 335i Coupe. 11.33 @ 132.77 mph, 60-130mph: 6.95 seconds 2023 i4 M50 11.48 @ 121.56mph, 3.43 0-60 (dragy) |
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02-21-2010, 12:47 PM | #17 | |
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I totally agree, I remember when I had my first 335i in 2007 and remember people making fun of it saying that if I wanted a sports car I should have just bought one, those people today don't seem to have much to say about the 335i these days. |
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02-21-2010, 01:48 PM | #18 |
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Sticky's Gintani SC M3 is going to murder this time. He is running way more boost and water/meth. Still on stock internals.
Better yet, there is a Gintani SC M3 being built with upgraded interals that will run with HPF stage 3+ e46 M3's. More to come.... |
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Thanks to Hotrod for posting this.....see the guy on top? Thats a HPF stage II car........ 5.61 - RaceMX-M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift 6.07 - M&M / E30 325is / TC / 1 shift 6.80 - TaZaM3 / E46 M3/ TC / 1 shift 6.86 - ST06M3 / E46 M3 / TC / 1 shift 7.86 - Maros / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 8.56 - biglare / E90 M3 DCT / SC / 2 shifts 8.59 – Dr Jitsu / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 8.67 - DLSJ5 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 8.95 - sammyrusso / E92 M3 DCT / SC / 3 shifts 9.08 - hiboostingm3 / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts 9.10 - hotrod182 / 335i Coupe / 2 shifts 9.66 - Fanatic7 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 9.87 - Mspired / E46 M3 / SC / 1 shift 10.3 - Stock M6 / 2 shifts 10.4 - RaceMX-M3 / Stock E60 M5 / 2 shifts 10.5 - fivaxis / E36 M3 / TC / 2 shifts 10.8 - DLSJ5 / E92 M3 DCT/ Bolt-Ons 11.0 - slcook54 / E36 M3 / TC / 3 shifts 11.2 - M&M / Chipped 335i / 1 shift 12.9 - 05SCM3 / E46 M3 / SC / 2 shifts 12.9 - Stock E92 M3 Coupe 13.7 - IDZ21 / Stock E46 M3 (freak car) / 1 shift 14.3 - hiboostingm3 / Stock E39 M5 / 1 shift Quote:
Multiple Zr1's have trapped over 132mph stock and are hitting 10.7's BONE STOCK ON STOCK TIRES. yeah the zr1's are slow........ Jamie's Zr1 (STOCK) : http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-19701.html Another (STOCK): http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-20097.html Jamie's video this is how you drive man....he's a machine. modded w stock S/C and internals: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-20041.html plain and simple, these mags cant drive these cars to their full potential. Not even close. and for another data point for you, I know you like data. Here is Jamie's Z06 BONE STOCK running 10.8x at 129mph: http://www.dragtimes.com/Chevrolet-C...lip-14084.html put the right driver in a Z06 or a ZR1 and it will embarass a lot of cars.
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The Zr1 kills on a real race course, as does Porsche's no doubt.
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That is stage 2.5 on race gas plus meth, a true beast. Trust me I am very familar with what HPF cars are capable of. Car is still under the knife. Sticky's stock internal SC will be on dyno soon and running some 60-130 times. It is still very early for e9x FI scene. ESS kits are just off the shelf kits, nothing custom.
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