**********s l PREVIEW l BSH Competition Oil Catch Can

ModBargains.com · 02-26-2010, 09:36 PM

Hey everyone,

I know that you've all been very interested in an oil catch can for the N54!

**********s.com has recently partnered up with BSH to bring a this brand new product to the community.

Pricing and availability will be released Monday 03/01/10!

Here's a sneak peek for you all to check out, ENJOY !!!

- Alan

AltecBX · 02-26-2010, 09:40 PM

Nice

Ilma · 02-26-2010, 10:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Nick.CBR

It's gotta dip stick. That's kinda cool.

Nick

Finally.....a dipstick for the N54 platform!

Ilma · 02-26-2010, 10:15 PM

But seriously......Phil @ BSH has made a lot of solid products for the VW/Audi scene.

He's been on the Vortex forum for years

JoeyFiasco · 02-26-2010, 10:25 PM

cool, what does the inside look like?

klipseracer · 02-26-2010, 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ilma

But seriously......Phil @ BSH has made a lot of solid products for the VW/Audi scene.

He's been on the Vortex forum for years

+1

marcel b · 02-27-2010, 02:32 AM

looks nice. Some more pics installed would be good so I can see if it fits with the BMW PPK installed.

Alan, can you PN me a price.

Spydeputy · 02-27-2010, 06:11 AM

Price please. what does it use as a filter?

whn · 02-27-2010, 07:01 AM

We need Group Buy for this!

Chefcg1 · 02-27-2010, 08:57 AM

looks really good, is the OCC baffled in any way?

645Nm · 02-27-2010, 12:34 PM

Look forward to this release

vasillalov · 02-27-2010, 12:40 PM

Yet another OCC that fails to deliver in my opinion. Why oh why do all catch cans are mounted so damn close to the exhaust (hot) side of the engine? In order for the hot oil vapors to condensate and drip down as liquid, the walls of the catch can must be colder than the oil vapors. Putting the oil catch can in the vicinity of the exhaust manifold pretty much guarantees that the OCC will get hot enough to where the oil vapors won't condensate completely.

Just my $0.02

Chefcg1 · 02-27-2010, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Yet another OCC that fails to deliver in my opinion. Why oh why do all catch cans are mounted so damn close to the exhaust (hot) side of the engine? In order for the hot oil vapors to condensate and drip down as liquid, the walls of the catch can must be colder than the oil vapors. Putting the oil catch can in the vicinity of the exhaust manifold pretty much guarantees that the OCC will get hot enough to where the oil vapors won't condensate completely.

Just my $0.02

I agree the location seems great from an asthetics point of view, but man it gets hot over there. I know when I started puting together my own DIY OCC I desided against that location and went towards the front of the passanger side to mount. ar designs OCC also went to the front on the driver side, but that location was not optimal because of my injen intake.

ModBargains.com · 02-27-2010, 09:37 PM

The BSH Copmeition Oil Catch can is designed with one goal in mind - Keep your engine clean and healthy!

The purpose of a catch can system is to collect/vent the blowby vapors inherent as part of the combustion process. The factory setup sucks these oily vapors directly back into the engine exposing them to everything in their path.

In the short term getting these vapors out of the combustion path reduces knock retard by not allowing oil vapor to mix with the air fuel mixture. In addition the more free flowing lines allow the engine to rev easily giving a more responsive feel to the engine as a whole.

Over the long haul these un tended to vapors will build up over the intake valves leading to a host of running issues and an expensive repair bill to fix. With a catch can installed you will save yourself from dealing with this hassle.

Sparky66 · 02-27-2010, 10:51 PM

**********s,

Thanks for the catch can lesson!!
We know you have committed to be a reseller for BSH and blindly profess to all of the positive features of their catch can but Vasillalov made a very valid point and you failed or ignored the target of his question.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Yet another OCC that fails to deliver in my opinion. Why oh why do all catch cans are mounted so damn close to the exhaust (hot) side of the engine? In order for the hot oil vapors to condensate and drip down as liquid, the walls of the catch can must be colder than the oil vapors. Putting the oil catch can in the vicinity of the exhaust manifold pretty much guarantees that the OCC will get hot enough to where the oil vapors won't condensate completely.

Just my $0.02

vase330 · 02-28-2010, 01:54 AM

With all the positives and not really expensive, can you tell us why BMW didn't bother do this? I hear they test their engines to 250K simulated miles, so if this was really such a big issue, a catch can would have been a reasonably cheap solution for BMW to implement no?

cstavaru · 02-28-2010, 04:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vase330

With all the positives and not really expensive, can you tell us why BMW didn't bother do this? I hear they test their engines to 250K simulated miles, so if this was really such a big issue, a catch can would have been a reasonably cheap solution for BMW to implement no?

Probably BMW reached the conclusion that such a device is not needed

klipseracer · 02-28-2010, 11:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vasillalov

Yet another OCC that fails to deliver in my opinion. Why oh why do all catch cans are mounted so damn close to the exhaust (hot) side of the engine? In order for the hot oil vapors to condensate and drip down as liquid, the walls of the catch can must be colder than the oil vapors. Putting the oil catch can in the vicinity of the exhaust manifold pretty much guarantees that the OCC will get hot enough to where the oil vapors won't condensate completely.

Just my $0.02

You realize that these vapors going through the can are traveling through there at fairly low speed and will have plenty of time to dissipate enough heat in order to condense. The tempuratures caused by the combustion process is much greater than that caused by the 'walls' of an OCC. I just got back from a drive and checked my OCC Dip stick and I never thought twice about the heat. This isn't like trying to condense air coming out of the compressor with an intercooler. The mesh inside of the CC along with the designed path the vapors must travel will do the collecting for you. If you are someone who must have a 'cold' catch can, I'd suggest getting an icebox and putting it in there because no matter where you place a OCC in this car, there simply isn't a 'cool' location no matter where you put it. The intake side of our engine bay is more than hot enough as it is to keep some of the vapors gaseous. There is no way to prevent it 100% on any car that I'm aware of. I have yet to find out, but by the looks of it, I doubt the blowby will be very significant and more than fulfill its job as an OCC and keep my AMS FMIC clean.

Quote:

Originally Posted by vase330

With all the positives and not really expensive, can you tell us why BMW didn't bother do this? I hear they test their engines to 250K simulated miles, so if this was really such a big issue, a catch can would have been a reasonably cheap solution for BMW to implement no?

Its the same reason they provide our vehicles with lifetime fluids... They figure the fluids will last long enough before the car explodes. For me personally, I don't like the idea of having oil running up and down my intake tract. Especially with an aftermarket FMIC.

EDIT: Revisions

Chefcg1 · 03-01-2010, 10:55 AM

it's the 1st, so what is the pricing?

BlueLion · 03-01-2010, 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

it's the 1st, so what is the pricing?

+1

Jeff@TopGearSolutions · 03-01-2010, 12:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by vase330

With all the positives and not really expensive, can you tell us why BMW didn't bother do this? I hear they test their engines to 250K simulated miles, so if this was really such a big issue, a catch can would have been a reasonably cheap solution for BMW to implement no?

The reason blow by is put back in the motor is for emissions purposes... instead of dumping blow by outside of the car into the environement. Not only would that be smelly, but it would be messy and considered harmful to the environement.

They dont design a catch can from the factory for obvious reasons, consumers would not want to empty this out and check it every XXXX miles.

So they route it back into the intake, a little oil never hurt anyone going back into the engine, however, BMW never said your power wont decrease over time either.

You guys need to realize what is practical for 99% of consumers (who we are not)... and what is.

A catch can is not practical for your grandmother driving around town is it? So its not a feasible option from the factory.

Bimmer335i07 · 03-01-2010, 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chefcg1

it's the 1st, so what is the pricing?

Quote:

Originally Posted by BlueLion

+1

+1

Pricing please.

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