[JackSpadesSI]

Hello,

I'm looking to buy a new 2011 335i Sedan. I'll equip it as follows:

Base 2011 335i Sedan (manual, RWD) = $37,530
Destination = $875
Jet Black/black leatherette/aluminum trim = $0
Cold Weather Package = $1,045
SIRIUS Satellite Radio = $320
iPod & USB Adapter = $365
BMW Assist w/Bluetooth = $685
Harman Kardon Surround Sound System = $795
Navigation System = $1,910

Total invoice (source is AOL Autos) = $43,525

I live in Michigan. How close to invoice should I reasonably hope to get?

I plan to order in June - UNLESS anyone knows of any upcoming incentives that I should wait for (a great price is more important to me than getting the car ASAP).

Thanks for your input!

[JackSpadesSI]

Is invoice price a possibility? What about $44,000 ($475 over invoice)?

[bmrowe]

Originally Posted by JackSpadesSI

Is invoice price a possibility? What about $44,000 ($475 over invoice)?

On my 2011 335i deal, I was able to get:

Invoice of $50765 + $350 dealer profit + $195 doc fee (varies by dealer) + $725 acquisition (can't avoid this) fee + $200 training fee (can't avoid this) - $1305 automatic transmission incentive
Totals: $50930

Combine all that with the base rate and no other dealer fees.


Therefore, $475 dealer profit + $725 acquisition fee + $200 training fee + possible $200-$400 MACO fee along subtracting any applicable incentives and with the base rates should be what you are shooting for.

[JackSpadesSI]

Thanks for the response, bmrowe!

What is an acquisition fee? Is that the destination fee ($875) that I already listed above?

Also, could you explain what the rest of those fees are? You mentioned a "MACO" fee in your last paragraph, but not that you paid it. Is that something I can get out of, also?

[Ali.K_BMW]

Originally Posted by JackSpadesSI

Thanks for the response, bmrowe!

What is an acquisition fee? Is that the destination fee ($875) that I already listed above?

Also, could you explain what the rest of those fees are? You mentioned a "MACO" fee in your last paragraph, but not that you paid it. Is that something I can get out of, also?

MACO is charged to the dealer. Acquisition fee is charged with every lease deal.


On a 2011 335i, it's safe to say that some are paying 500$-1200$ over. There are no incentives besides the 2.9% which was downgraded from 3.9% + and the Automatic rebate. If you have any other questions, feel free.

[bmrowe]

Originally Posted by JackSpadesSI

Thanks for the response, bmrowe!

What is an acquisition fee? Is that the destination fee ($875) that I already listed above?

Also, could you explain what the rest of those fees are? You mentioned a "MACO" fee in your last paragraph, but not that you paid it. Is that something I can get out of, also?

Acquisition Fee is a fee to BMW Financial Services and is mandatory on every lease. Some dealers can try and mark it up to $925 if you don't call them on it.

MACO is a fee that a lot of dealers have to pay on a per car basis. The money goes back to BMW and from what I understand, it goes towards the marketing budget -- and is very common for dealerships in larger cities. The BMW dealership that I purchased from is located in a smaller area and they do not participate in whatever it is that MACO would get them -- hence saving me $200-$400

[JackSpadesSI]

Is the acquisition fee only associated with leases? I will be buying the car, but I will be financing. I hope that fee isn't for all financing - it's HUGE!

I really wasn't accounting for a fee that large. Outside banks haven't charged me any such fee for my previous car loans. Is it a BMW thing?

I would hate to pass up the available 2.9% because of a greedy fee!

[serg1282]

As far as I know acquisition fees don't apply to financed cars.