[dzenno]

Here's my situation. I've been on backorder with UUC for more than 3 weeks now and I cancelled the order as it seems like another 1-2 weeks at least until they have them back in stock (spoke to them, backorder is related to their machining process/shop/equipment)..

Now that I've cancelled the order I'm still looking at what I should get, none of the UUC vendors have the DSSR in stock and I've decided to either get both the SSK/DSSR or nothing from UUC for now.

What about Rogue's SSK? how does it compare? With a good heavy (weighted) knob, will there really be any noticeable difference? Anyone have any pros/cons of one over the other? Any constructive feedback appreciated..

[turbo8765]

Have you considered the factory SSK?

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by turbo8765

Have you considered the factory SSK?

i have but given it doesn't upgrade much over stock i'm not interested..

really, i'm trying to find out if members on this board have had a chance to run the Rogue SSK/WSR and see how it compares to UUC (ideal) or at least to see how it feels for them...UUC has huge issues with manufacturing it seems...

[GaryS]

I've heard that the UUC SSK is similar to the B&M that I hated.

The B&M requires very high effort, it clicks audibly in and out of gears, and it is very sticky shifting in and out of 2nd. I couldn't believe it was installed correctly, but when I called B&M, the tech said that what I described was normal. So I replaced it with the BMW Performance SSK, which is much smoother, and I am happy. But you'lll have to try them for yourself.

[Alan l.]

I haven't been following either companies ssk's for the 335 but based on my past experience with both...... Rogue > UUC by a landslide

Ben @ Rogue is extremely knowledgeable and doesn't sell BS products that i've seen from UUC through the years. Again i haven't been following their SSK's so i can't tell you which is better from that standpoint.

Alan

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by GaryS

I've heard that the UUC SSK is similar to the B&M that I hated.

The B&M requires very high effort, it clicks audibly in and out of gears, and it is very sticky shifting in and out of 2nd. I couldn't believe it was installed correctly, but when I called B&M, the tech said that what I described was normal. So I replaced it with the BMW Performance SSK, which is much smoother, and I am happy. But you'lll have to try them for yourself.

I am not sure who you heard that from but it is funny. The UUC shifting has no click whatsoever. The shifts are very precise and accurate. This is not just a different height shifter and it sits in the middle unlike the BMW SSK. Comparing the BMW SSK to the UUC is almost comical.

[dzenno]

FBIS any feedback on the Rogue SSK?

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by dzenno

FBIS any feedback on the Rogue SSK?

I really have never seen it or used one of their products.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by dzenno

i have but given it doesn't upgrade much over stock i'm not interested..

Where did you read that ? The SSK is not like a tune to have the manufacturer back down on how much it shortens the travel. The shifts are very short with the BMW SSK

[dzenno]

FBIS review/diy

[GaryS]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

This is not just a different height shifter and it sits in the middle unlike the BMW SSK.

On 135i, the BMW SSK sits at an angle if you only install the lever and omit the arm, but that doesn't happen if you install the whole kit. 335i might be different, I don't know.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by cstavaru

Where did you read that ? The SSK is not like a tune to have the manufacturer back down on how much it shortens the travel. The shifts are very short with the BMW SSK

Does the BMW shifter still use the plastic ball? The design just appears to be inferior to the UUC.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by dzenno

FBIS review/diy

LOL, I already have a great SSK and have no plans on changing it.

[dzenno]

Originally Posted by Former_Boosted_IS

LOL, I already have a great SSK and have no plans on changing it.

I know, these reviews have cost me quite a bit

I was just responding to a post above from cstavaru

BMW ssk still uses the plastic ball, so does Rogue..Rogue has some good sounding reasoning behind it though, if you get a chance to read it I wonder what your thoughts are

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by dzenno

I know, these reviews have cost me quite a bit

I was just responding to a post above from cstavaru

BMW ssk still uses the plastic ball, so does Rogue..Rogue has some good sounding reasoning behind it though, if you get a chance to read it I wonder what your thoughts are

If I respond then it will be an argument with Rogue vs. UUC. I think by my choice you can see which I think is superior. I have honestly never seen a more well constructed SSK than the UUC in all the years I have been modding.

At the same time, you situation is unique. I can see why you would prefer to do it all at once. I did the same.

[sashmanparker]

i have the rogue one w/the zhp weighted knob it feels great sits at the stock height level and makes the 1st to 2nd much better especially when coupled with the cdv.

[dzenno]

Fbis, so you have looked at rogue's ssk but decided uuc was better? I thought you didn't consider it when you chose to go with uuc..honestly, as I said I like uuc from what I've read but given their issues in manufacturing and backorder I'm just impatient I guess..

sashmanparker, thanks for your feedback..

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by dzenno

Fbis, so you have looked at rogue's ssk but decided uuc was better? I thought you didn't consider it when you chose to go with uuc..honestly, as I said I like uuc from what I've read but given their issues in manufacturing and backorder I'm just impatient I guess..

sashmanparker, thanks for your feedback..

To be honest, I research all items when making my decision. It is the product I wanted and the reason it is on my car. I also understand their backorder issues and why it would bother some. I knew about how long it would take when I ordered and planned the other items install around when it would arrive.

[dcorn]

What I don't understand about the Rogue shifter is that it still uses the stock plastic sleeve that goes around the ball on the shifter handle. Yeah, it raises up the shifter, but who cares? The B&M I just bought has a sealed spherical bearing where the shifter pivots so it should be very precise and last a long time.

Really these things are mainly about personal preference. It's just like suspension parts where someone will like a stiff suspension with no body roll and don't mind the harsh ride, and others want a soft cushy ride while maintaining decent handling. The past two Mustangs I owned had aftermarket shifters that had very short and precise throws, but the effort was much harder than stock. I didn't mind it at all because I knew the shifter was great quality and could handle hard shifting at high rpm. My B&M shifter feels similar with a little bit more effort than the stock shifter, and it audibly clicks into each gear so you know it's there. Doesn't bother me in the least.


Now that I think about it, I'm kind of amazed at how much these shifters cost. I guess it's the BMW tax...

$350 for this, plus an additional $129 for the DSSR to complete the whole package.



$179 for this made for the T-56 in a Mustang Cobra. Fully CNC'd, lifetime warranty on breakage, and comes with everything you need except a heavy-duty dust boot, which is an extra $8. Installs with 4 bolts on the transmission. Best shifter you can get on a Mustang and feels amazing. I had it on two cars. I even had a guy who owned a race spec Viper comment on how good the shifter felt.




I have absolutely nothing against UUC because I have never tried their shifter. In fact, I'm sure it feels amazing. Just commenting on price differences. The only BMW SSK experience I have is my B&M, so take this for what it's worth.

[cstavaru]

Originally Posted by dzenno

BMW ssk still uses the plastic ball, so does Rogue..Rogue has some good sounding reasoning behind it though, if you get a chance to read it I wonder what your thoughts are

Like I said in another thread, I think that the amount of research put in developing a part is worth way more than the difference in materials used. A modified shifting arm is worth way more than a metal ball to me. I think that if BMW thought a metal ball was necessary they would have done it, given the fact that they went to such great lengths like modifying the shifting arm to ensure the SSK is perfect.

[Former_Boosted_IS]

Originally Posted by cstavaru

Like I said in another thread, I think that the amount of research put in developing a part is worth way more than the difference in materials used. A modified shifting arm is worth way more than a metal ball to me. I think that if BMW thought a metal ball was necessary they would have done it, given the fact that they went to such great lengths like modifying the shifting arm to ensure the SSK is perfect.

Come on, BMW is concerned about cost too. If quality and performance was their #1 goal then we would have a fuel pump that worked and run flats that don't bubble when you hit a tiny bump. They went with the cheapest "good enough" option.