Vin # for the N54

AltecBX · 07-19-2010, 02:03 PM

Don't want to go off-topic on another tread so started this one instead. Want to get info on cars with N54 engines.

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmurray14

The problem is it's not easy to decode what model the car is based upon the VIN (the last 7, really). You'd have to store a table of the models and I don't think that would be efficient.

So you're saying that a 3 series could have the same sequence as a 1 series with just the last 3 numbers different? Wouldn't BMW have a range for each model they assemble?

dmurray14 · 07-19-2010, 02:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltecBX

Don't want to go off-topic on another tread so started this one instead. Want to get info on cars with N54 engines.

So you're saying that a 3 series could have the same sequence as a 1 series with just the last 3 numbers different? Wouldn't BMW have a range for each model they assemble?

I'm not positive, but I believe the serial number doesn't necessarily have a specific identifier or range for a given vehicle....I.E., I don't believe P10000 - P20000 identifies one model of car, for instance. I could certainly be wrong, but that was my understanding.

AltecBX · 07-19-2010, 02:31 PM

But car manf. usually recall cars with specific vin number ranges. So therefor, they can distinguish what model car from the assembly and built date.

shifterboy45 · 07-19-2010, 02:48 PM

the fourth and fifth digits in the VIN are the platform identifier..
as follows

WB = 3series coupe
WL= 3series convertible

two additional digits on the AG code identify the type within the series
73 = 335
33 = 328

but since the full VIN sometimes follows the above convention, the sixth and seventh digits dont alway correlate -- sometimes yes, sometimes no.. .

such as WBA*WB73*
the manufacturer will base there information on the fully decoded VIN not just the last seven ..

cheers

dmurray14 · 07-19-2010, 02:51 PM

Then see if you can find some data to describe the ranges for BMWs...I haven't looked. You may be right.

Still, for the purpose you're considering this for, the main issue will be whether or not it is worth it to store a lookup table if the serial numbers are spread apart.

dmurray14 · 07-19-2010, 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

the fourth and fifth digits in the VIN are the platform identifier..
as follows

WB = 3series coupe
WL= 3series convertible

two additional digits on the AG code identify the type within the series
73 = 335
33 = 328

but since the full VIN sometimes follows the above convention, the sixth and seventh digits dont alway correlate -- sometimes yes, sometimes no.. .

such as WBA*WB73*
the manufacturer will base there information on the fully decoded VIN not just the last seven ..

cheers

Very nice, thanks

AltecBX · 07-19-2010, 02:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dmurray14

Then see if you can find some data to describe the ranges for BMWs...I haven't looked. You may be right.

Still, for the purpose you're considering this for, the main issue will be whether or not it is worth it to store a lookup table if the serial numbers are spread apart.

No need for serial # apart on a lookup table. All you need is set ranges for each model.

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

the fourth and fifth digits in the VIN are the platform identifier..
as follows

WB = 3series coupe
WL= 3series convertible

two additional digits on the AG code identify the type within the series
73 = 335
33 = 328

but since the full VIN sometimes follows the above convention, the sixth and seventh digits dont alway correlate -- sometimes yes, sometimes no.. .

such as WBA*WB73*
the manufacturer will base there information on the fully decoded VIN not just the last seven ..

cheers

Perfect. Thanks
Where did you get this info?

shifterboy45 · 07-19-2010, 03:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltecBX

No need for serial # apart on a lookup table. All you need is set ranges for each model.

Perfect. Thanks
Where did you get this info?

if you need any further help with vin stuff.. id be glad to help out...

AltecBX · 07-19-2010, 07:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by shifterboy45

if you need any further help with vin stuff.. id be glad to help out...

Thanks, will do.
Very informative.

skiernan36 · 07-19-2010, 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltecBX

No need for serial # apart on a lookup table. All you need is set ranges for each model.

Perfect. Thanks
Where did you get this info?

Bentley Manual, they're $80 on Amazon

AltecBX · 07-20-2010, 03:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skiernan36

Bentley Manual, they're $80 on Amazon

Does this come in PDF format? If so, anyone knows where to download it from?

enrita · 07-20-2010, 04:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AltecBX

Does this come in PDF format? If so, anyone knows where to download it from?

you have to buy it. i already tried to find a torrent some time ago but did not succeed

skiernan36 · 07-20-2010, 09:42 AM

it's definately worth the money, especially if you plan on installing mods or doing maintenance yourself

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shifterboy45 Major 23 Rep 1,179 Posts Drives: 2009 335i Coupe Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: North by Northwest iTrader: (0)	quick breakdown the fourth and fifth digits in the VIN are the platform identifier.. as follows WB = 3series coupe WL= 3series convertible two additional digits on the AG code identify the type within the series 73 = 335 33 = 328 but since the full VIN sometimes follows the above convention, the sixth and seventh digits dont alway correlate -- sometimes yes, sometimes no.. . such as WBAWB73 the manufacturer will base there information on the fully decoded VIN not just the last seven .. cheers
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