To BOV or not to BOV

bonsai · 11-02-2010, 02:03 PM

what do you guys think about BOV on our cars? i know the stock setup just recycles the air into the intake. is that an issue for tuned setups? does a BOV actually make any difference for tuned cars?

if it's just for the sounds, how do you all feel about the BOV sound?

i ask because i'm considering jumping on the JBSpeed deal the sponsored deals section of e90post.

1997gtx · 11-02-2010, 02:33 PM

A BOV vents air to the atmosphere, whereas a re-circulating valve re-circulates the air back into the system. The sound from the BOV comes from the air venting.

I can't speak to how the BMW's engine in setup, as I'm more familiar with the Audi. In the Audi, it's necessary to re-circulate the air.

Kroy · 11-02-2010, 02:49 PM

it's really just for the sound. it's your car, so you decide if you like the sound or not. performance-wise it's basically all the same.

16M4 · 11-02-2010, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Kroy

it's your car, so you decide if you like the sound or not. performance-wise it's basically all the same.

Performance is the same? Stock DV's vs aftermarket bov's or DV's?

1997gtx · 11-02-2010, 03:21 PM

Diverter Valves (DV) are NOT the same as a BOV.

If you buy a BOV and get a recirculating kit, then all you've done is make a DV.

JayKay335i · 11-02-2010, 03:22 PM

Its just for sound. People going towards stage 3 setups may choose to put one on because it will hold more boost than the diaphragm stock DVs. But, you could just buy upgraded DVs. Also, some dont replace them until their stock DVs leak which happens on some and not on others. Personally, I dont want to draw any unnecessary attention to my car. I'd go aftermarket DVs and recirculate them.

1997gtx · 11-02-2010, 03:33 PM

Doesn't the BMW computer throw an engine code if it doesn't get recirculated air back like it's expecting?

Tee212 · 11-02-2010, 03:35 PM

The sound is too ricey this day in age. Even non turbo cars find a way to achieve such rice melody.

CasperSYTFU · 11-02-2010, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by 1997gtx

Doesn't the BMW computer throw an engine code if it doesn't get recirculated air back like it's expecting?

No, as the N54 isn't a MAF based engine. The N55 will though (or just run like shit).

Personally I would go this route FTW:

Bimmer84 · 11-02-2010, 03:45 PM

LOL. EPIC! I want to do it now.

timmahh · 11-02-2010, 04:26 PM

E90 DUCK!

SV Concepts III · 11-02-2010, 06:31 PM

I love the sound, I miss my AA BOV- it was intoxicating.

forza1976 · 11-02-2010, 06:34 PM

don't do it... stick with DV's. That sound is not meant for german autos!

McMuffin · 11-02-2010, 06:39 PM

Do it!!

kanecvl · 11-02-2010, 06:43 PM

DV's. They still make a lil bit of noise. Ultimately whatever you like

Bakeme521 · 11-02-2010, 07:11 PM

I'm thinking about picking up the z shift bov kit. Pretty cheap so I i don't like it no biggie.

turb0mik3 · 11-02-2010, 07:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee212

The sound is too ricey this day in age. Even non turbo cars find a way to achieve such rice melody.

It really depends on which BOV you get and the design with the spring rate. You can't just throw out BOVs from watching the Fast and the Furious movies. Mine has a very short and distinct "psh" noise, not like these annoying HKS that seem to last forever and can be heard from 5 miles away. I believe the BOV is slightly more efficient and holds the boost better. Recirculating the air, although it seems in principle to be ok, just seems like extra work that has to be done.

Tee212 · 11-02-2010, 07:16 PM

lol sure, defend your bov to the death

its your life!!!

McMuffin · 11-02-2010, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Tee212

lol sure, defend your bov to the death

its your life!!!

Gavin@MMW · 11-02-2010, 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by CasperSYTFU

No, as the N54 isn't a MAF based engine. The N55 will though (or just run like shit).

Personally I would go this route FTW:

LMFAO! Ive never seen this.. but hilarious

Penn999 · 11-02-2010, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Mflowt5

It really depends on which BOV you get and the design with the spring rate. You can't just throw out BOVs from watching the Fast and the Furious movies. Mine has a very short and distinct "psh" noise, not like these annoying HKS that seem to last forever and can be heard from 5 miles away. I believe the BOV is slightly more efficient and holds the boost better. Recirculating the air, although it seems in principle to be ok, just seems like extra work that has to be done.

I agree, I have the AA bov and I have loved it from the day I put it in. You can really notice a difference in when the boost kicks in with a tune rather than running stock boost. It blows off (the woosh sound) a lot sooner and in lower rpms with the tune. I would say that its mostly about sound but I believe that if you plan on running much over 15psi I would get a BOV. If money isnt an issue for you call asr and get their intake and BOV package...thats what im doing in the next couple months.

BrianMN · 11-02-2010, 10:14 PM

The problem with the Stock DVs' isnt' that they can't hold high boost...on a single gear dyno pull or street pull, it will not fail. However, where the stock DV's fail is re-sealing in a timely manner upon releasing/shifting. So in that sense...aftermarket DV's or a BOV will yeild better driving performance.

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1997gtx Lieutenant 12 Rep 530 Posts Drives: 08 328xi \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	A BOV vents air to the atmosphere, whereas a re-circulating valve re-circulates the air back into the system. The sound from the BOV comes from the air venting. I can't speak to how the BMW's engine in setup, as I'm more familiar with the Audi. In the Audi, it's necessary to re-circulate the air. __________________ 08 328xi - SOLD \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4
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1997gtx Lieutenant 12 Rep 530 Posts Drives: 08 328xi \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Diverter Valves (DV) are NOT the same as a BOV. If you buy a BOV and get a recirculating kit, then all you've done is make a DV. __________________ 08 328xi - SOLD \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4
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JayKay335i Banned 198 Rep 5,046 Posts Drives: ///M323 DCT Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: North Dakota; its best DUHHHHHH iTrader: (1)	Its just for sound. People going towards stage 3 setups may choose to put one on because it will hold more boost than the diaphragm stock DVs. But, you could just buy upgraded DVs. Also, some dont replace them until their stock DVs leak which happens on some and not on others. Personally, I dont want to draw any unnecessary attention to my car. I'd go aftermarket DVs and recirculate them.
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1997gtx Lieutenant 12 Rep 530 Posts Drives: 08 328xi \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4 Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: CT iTrader: (0)	Doesn't the BMW computer throw an engine code if it doesn't get recirculated air back like it's expecting? __________________ 08 328xi - SOLD \| 08 S5 \| 02 S4
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