Back tires are rubbing. Please help!

beamin' · 11-05-2010, 10:06 PM

Hello,

I recently bought new wheels for my ride:

Car = '07 328i Sedan
Back wheels = BMW Style 220 19" (9.5)
Back tires = 265/35 ZR19 (staggered fitment)
(Note: these wheels are from an M3)

The problem is that the back tires are rubbing when going over dips or uneven surfaces. I've attached two pictures so you can better understand the issue. If you look closely at the pics, you'll see that the tires have rubbing marks on the outside area. It seems that the back tires are rubbing against the fender or the inside cover. I need help with finding a solution to this problem. Unfortunately, exchanging or returning the wheels is not an option.

Helpful suggestions are highly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your responses!

EDIT:
I'm now considering 3 possible solutions:

1st
Roll the fenders

2nd
Get new tires
ex: stretch a 255 on a 9.5 wheel
ex: get a skinnier tire - a 30 instead of 35

3rd
Install coil spring boosters or locks

1st option - I'm gonna go to some shops to see if they have experience with rolling fenders. I'm concerned that they won't be able to do a quality job.

2nd option - stretching a tire will reduce protection of the wheels when hitting sidewalks accidentally.
Do you think that a skinnier tire may give my car a somewhat lowrider look?

and will probably make the ride feel more rough?

3rd option - What do you guys think about installing coil spring boosters or locks?

I've attached sample pics of coil spring boosters. The last picture is an example of coil spring locks.

Once again, thank you very much in advance for your suggestions!

e90TiAg335i · 11-05-2010, 10:17 PM

time to roll some fenders

PeteW84 · 11-05-2010, 10:25 PM

^
What he said...

Chard · 11-05-2010, 10:40 PM

Do you have any profile shots of the wheels on the car? I'm interested to see how the offset works on the non-M body.

BTW: Solution to your problem is to roll your fenders so they don't rub. If that's not enough, you might need skinnier tires in the rear if the offset is too low.

pittyinSC · 11-05-2010, 10:49 PM

The solution is different tires. The PS2's on the M3 wheels will rub no matter what on a non-M E90/E92. You need to stretch the tires a little bit by stepping down to a 255/35 on what I believe is a 19x9.5? I forget the wheel sizes for style 220's are.

///M3NACE · 11-05-2010, 10:54 PM

roll your fenders. I have 20s with offset of 25 in the rear and all i did was roll my fenders... Rubs with full car a bit. But roll your fenders or go 255 on the 19s

Tallest · 11-06-2010, 05:09 AM

your WHEEL is bigger by almost 5% in diameter, of course it'll rub. Roll fenders if it helps, but you might as well put on a narrower and more stretched tyre if the fender rolling won't do.

Gary@TireRack · 11-06-2010, 01:04 PM

Your tires are too tall for a non M car. Next time use the correct 265/30R19 tire size.

BrianMN · 11-06-2010, 05:24 PM

FWIW, I'm running 285/35/18 with an offset of 30 on my nonM E90 with rolled fenders. You can pack a lot under once fenders are rolled

beamin' · 11-06-2010, 06:43 PM

Thank you all for your help!

I'm now considering 3 possible solutions:

1st
Roll the fenders

2nd
Get new tires
ex: stretch a 255 on a 9.5 wheel
ex: get a skinnier tire - a 30 instead of 35

3rd
Install coil spring boosters or locks

1st option - I'm gonna go to some shops to see if they have experience with rolling fenders. I'm concerned that they won't be able to do a quality job.

2nd option - stretching a tire will reduce protection of the wheels when hitting sidewalks accidentally.
Do you think that a skinnier tire may give my car a somewhat lowrider look? and will probably make the ride feel more rough?

3rd option - What do you guys think about installing coil spring boosters or locks?

I've attached sample pics of coil spring boosters. The last picture is an example of coil spring locks.

Once again, thank you very much in advance for your suggestions!

BrianMN · 11-06-2010, 08:07 PM

30 / 35 is the ratio, or height of the tire and the 2x5 is the actual width of the tire.

So swapping a 35 for a 30 will make it a little shorter, but will be pretty similar in width.

SaviorSelf · 11-06-2010, 08:16 PM

Just ROLL them..It's simple or get smaller tires (height)

remmib · 11-07-2010, 11:44 AM

Are you running the OEM 245/35/19 m3 sized tires in the front?

beamin' · 11-07-2010, 02:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remmib

Are you running the OEM 245/35/19 m3 sized tires in the front?

Yes

Thumperx · 11-07-2010, 08:41 PM

As mentioned, roll your rear fenders first. I too had this similar problem due to my wheels have aggressive M3 offsets (15 ft & 25 rr). Stepping down to 30 aspect ratio tires will definitely help. Use all solutions with a 265 width tire and you will be likely cure of the rubbing problem.

BOOSTED4DR · 11-08-2010, 07:55 PM

baically its the offsets but like everyone said try 30 series youll be better off.

knivez · 11-20-2010, 01:34 AM

Do you have the sport or non-sport package?

John_01 · 11-20-2010, 02:03 AM

Michelin PS2 are wide fitting tyres. Change to a 265/30/19 tyre of most other brands and the rub will be reduced. There will be a mis-match in diameter from the front 245/35/19, but I am not sure if it will be noticable.

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beamin' Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: '07 328i Sedan Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	Back tires are rubbing. Please help! Hello, I recently bought new wheels for my ride: Car = '07 328i Sedan Back wheels = BMW Style 220 19" (9.5) Back tires = 265/35 ZR19 (staggered fitment) (Note: these wheels are from an M3) The problem is that the back tires are rubbing when going over dips or uneven surfaces. I've attached two pictures so you can better understand the issue. If you look closely at the pics, you'll see that the tires have rubbing marks on the outside area. It seems that the back tires are rubbing against the fender or the inside cover. I need help with finding a solution to this problem. Unfortunately, exchanging or returning the wheels is not an option. Helpful suggestions are highly appreciated! Thanks in advance for your responses! EDIT: I'm now considering 3 possible solutions: 1st Roll the fenders 2nd Get new tires ex: stretch a 255 on a 9.5 wheel ex: get a skinnier tire - a 30 instead of 35 3rd Install coil spring boosters or locks 1st option - I'm gonna go to some shops to see if they have experience with rolling fenders. I'm concerned that they won't be able to do a quality job. 2nd option - stretching a tire will reduce protection of the wheels when hitting sidewalks accidentally. Do you think that a skinnier tire may give my car a somewhat lowrider look? and will probably make the ride feel more rough? 3rd option - What do you guys think about installing coil spring boosters or locks? I've attached sample pics of coil spring boosters. The last picture is an example of coil spring locks. Once again, thank you very much in advance for your suggestions! Attached Images Last edited by beamin'; 11-06-2010 at 08:54 PM..
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Chard Second Lieutenant 16 Rep 242 Posts Drives: E90 330i Join Date: Mar 2010 Location: Honolulu iTrader: (3)	Do you have any profile shots of the wheels on the car? I'm interested to see how the offset works on the non-M body. BTW: Solution to your problem is to roll your fenders so they don't rub. If that's not enough, you might need skinnier tires in the rear if the offset is too low.
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pittyinSC Drives Smart 54 Rep 2,393 Posts Drives: 1968 Austin Mini Cooper 1380cc Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Nashville, TN iTrader: (2) Garage List 2006 330i [0.00]	The solution is different tires. The PS2's on the M3 wheels will rub no matter what on a non-M E90/E92. You need to stretch the tires a little bit by stepping down to a 255/35 on what I believe is a 19x9.5? I forget the wheel sizes for style 220's are. __________________ 08 BMW ///M5 Space Gray/Black 6 speed Engine: RPi GTS exhaust, RPi Scoops, Carbon Filter Delete Exterior: Glossy Black Kidneys, LUX V3, OEM LED License Plate light, Bruce License Plate Adapter
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///M3NACE Banned 182 Rep 3,900 Posts Drives: E36 M3, E36 Vert , E90 N52 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Downers Grove, IL iTrader: (5)	roll your fenders. I have 20s with offset of 25 in the rear and all i did was roll my fenders... Rubs with full car a bit. But roll your fenders or go 255 on the 19s
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Gary@TireRack Moderator 372 Rep 4,742 Posts Drives: Formerly 1995 M3 Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: South Bend, IN, Tire Rack HQ iTrader: (2)	Your tires are too tall for a non M car. Next time use the correct 265/30R19 tire size. __________________ Gary. Tire and Wheel Forum Moderator. Tire Rack Sales Rep Gary@Tirerack.com http://www.tirerack.com/a.jsp?a=AH8&url=index.jsp Please refer to 'Gary/E90 Post' as your previous contact when you order online to help support this forum.
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BrianMN Banned 116 Rep 2,428 Posts Drives: 4 Door Family Sedan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (7)	FWIW, I'm running 285/35/18 with an offset of 30 on my nonM E90 with rolled fenders. You can pack a lot under once fenders are rolled
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beamin' Registered 0 Rep 3 Posts Drives: '07 328i Sedan Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: USA iTrader: (0)	3 options Thank you all for your help! I'm now considering 3 possible solutions: 1st Roll the fenders 2nd Get new tires ex: stretch a 255 on a 9.5 wheel ex: get a skinnier tire - a 30 instead of 35 3rd Install coil spring boosters or locks 1st option - I'm gonna go to some shops to see if they have experience with rolling fenders. I'm concerned that they won't be able to do a quality job. 2nd option - stretching a tire will reduce protection of the wheels when hitting sidewalks accidentally. Do you think that a skinnier tire may give my car a somewhat lowrider look? and will probably make the ride feel more rough? 3rd option - What do you guys think about installing coil spring boosters or locks? I've attached sample pics of coil spring boosters. The last picture is an example of coil spring locks. Once again, thank you very much in advance for your suggestions! Attached Images Last edited by beamin'; 11-06-2010 at 06:54 PM..
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BrianMN Banned 116 Rep 2,428 Posts Drives: 4 Door Family Sedan Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Minneapolis iTrader: (7)	30 / 35 is the ratio, or height of the tire and the 2x5 is the actual width of the tire. So swapping a 35 for a 30 will make it a little shorter, but will be pretty similar in width.
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SaviorSelf Private First Class 5 Rep 188 Posts Drives: 2007 BMW 335i Join Date: Oct 2010 Location: BC iTrader: (10)	Just ROLL them..It's simple or get smaller tires (height)
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Thumperx Major 88 Rep 1,404 Posts Drives: 335I coupe Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: SE Michigan iTrader: (77)	As mentioned, roll your rear fenders first. I too had this similar problem due to my wheels have aggressive M3 offsets (15 ft & 25 rr). Stepping down to 30 aspect ratio tires will definitely help. Use all solutions with a 265 width tire and you will be likely cure of the rubbing problem. __________________ Name: Blanca \| 07 E92 \| AW-Blk \| ZSP \| Alcon BBK \| M3 Bits \| VM RR Links \| Koni \| UUC Sways \| V5 \| Dinan CAI \| ETS IC \| Fge DV \| ER CP \| Cyba \| Raden. Exh \| Mod Step \| Trunk Drawer \| Perf LED Wheel \| Illum Dr Sills \| IS Shifter \| Parrot \| Philps D1S \| 6000k fog \| MTECH RR \| CSL Trunk \| Aero \| Roof Spoiler \| PSS on BBS RS-GT 19s
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BOOSTED4DR Captain 31 Rep 932 Posts Drives: 07 335i Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: BK,NYC iTrader: (6)	baically its the offsets but like everyone said try 30 series youll be better off. __________________
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knivez Private First Class 13 Rep 151 Posts Drives: 335i Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: texas iTrader: (1)	Do you have the sport or non-sport package?
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John_01 Colonel 237 Rep 2,643 Posts Drives: E90 325i, E82 135i Join Date: Mar 2009 Location: Sydney, Australia iTrader: (0)	Michelin PS2 are wide fitting tyres. Change to a 265/30/19 tyre of most other brands and the rub will be reduced. There will be a mis-match in diameter from the front 245/35/19, but I am not sure if it will be noticable.
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