Waste gates problem

mohawk335i · 12-07-2010, 04:41 AM

Hi I'm looking to purchase a 335i convertible 2007 with about 45 k miles. I took it to a specialist and he said the waste gates need to be replaced. Is this a big concern and can it cause future concerns if it's not attended too.

Ghines1279 · 12-07-2010, 06:53 AM

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Originally Posted by mohawk335i

Hi I'm looking to purchase a 335i convertible 2007 with about 45 k miles. I took it to a specialist and he said the waste gates need to be replaced. Is this a big concern and can it cause future concerns if it's not attended too.

a procede will take care of this.

vasillalov · 12-07-2010, 08:21 AM

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a procede will take care of this.

A procede will NOT take care of this. It will only mask the symptoms.

enrita · 12-07-2010, 11:09 AM

Depends if the problem is hardware or software related. Do you have rattling? Engine Cold, warm or both?
You cannot replace the wastegates, you need to change both turbos if the wastegates are not sealing.
What did the specialist say exactly? Does he know how these turbos are built?

blacknbean · 12-07-2010, 02:13 PM

needs to be fixed as the proceed only masks the rattling sound. if the bushing are really worn you could get a low boost CEL from the wastagates not sealing. some dealers just replace the wastgates, some give new turbos, but either way it should be fixed.

mohawk335i · 12-07-2010, 03:10 PM

Yea I do have rattling and engine cold. I thought it was just the muffler that was rattling because only one side of the muffler works currently. But when I took it to BMW they said the waste gates are giving the problems. From hearing this, do you believe it is a minor issue? Or one that can cause damage to the wallet in the future?

**335i** · 12-08-2010, 10:54 AM

is it normal to hear rattles when car is cold?

Kolyan2k · 12-08-2010, 11:16 AM

Rattle #1 usually when driving slow, and when you start the car IS exhaust valve rattle. No big deal, just unplug the valve plug in the trunk. Dont really need it anyway.

Rattle #2 usually can hear when reving engine in N. This is wastegates. Can be a very big problem. Dealer procedure to fix: 1. Update all software, if not fixed: 2. Replace wastegates actuators, if not fixed: 3. Replace turbos

Lots of people including me and DEALER confuse #1 and #2

e93WhiteonRed · 12-08-2010, 11:21 AM

Mine stuck open and the car wouldn't build boost over 3 lbs. replaced the whole turbo and actuator. MAKE sure the car is under warranty, otherwise it could cost you a few grand...

gerardm · 12-08-2010, 11:23 AM

i was just at the dealer this morning i had taken it in a while back and they reprogrammed it which lasted for like oh idk half a day it seemed. today i was back for vanos and a broken door lock and the dude came in and was like didnt you come in here for wastegates. i was like yeah but it didnt really do anything he was like omg ive never heard wastegates that bad i think we need to get you some new turbos!! =]

fisherbln · 12-08-2010, 11:31 AM

BMW refused to replace my wastegates under factory warranty. They denied they could even hear the noise. The month after my BMW warranty expired, I took it in to the dealer and they immediately claimed they could hear the noise and that my turbos needed to be replaced. I have an aftermarket warranty which covered it. The total bill was over $4000 ($100 deductible only for me). If it wasn't for my aftermarket warranty, I'd be suing BMW for this crap.

**335i** · 12-08-2010, 11:46 AM

my dealer not sais nothing about rattle when i visit them, maybe i dont have rattles

12-07-2010, 04:41 AM	#1
mohawk335i New Member 5 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 335i Convertible Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (0)	Waste gates problem Hi I'm looking to purchase a 335i convertible 2007 with about 45 k miles. I took it to a specialist and he said the waste gates need to be replaced. Is this a big concern and can it cause future concerns if it's not attended too.
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enrita Major General 165 Rep 7,377 Posts Drives: 335i - Big turbos Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: Italian in Sweden iTrader: (0)	Depends if the problem is hardware or software related. Do you have rattling? Engine Cold, warm or both? You cannot replace the wastegates, you need to change both turbos if the wastegates are not sealing. What did the specialist say exactly? Does he know how these turbos are built? __________________ 07 335i AT - MOTIV 750 - MHD E85 BMS flash - BMS PI - JB4G5 - Okada Coils - NGK 5992 Plugs - Helix IC - Snow Stg. 3 - Stett CP - Custom midpipes with 100 HJS Cats - Bastuck Quad - PSS10 - QUAIFE LSD - BMS OCC - Forge DVs - AR OC - ALCON BBK - M3 Chassi - Dinan CP - Velocity M rear Toe arms - Advan RZ-DF - LUX H8 - Level 10 AT upgrade
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blacknbean Major 14 Rep 1,044 Posts Drives: e92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: LA iTrader: (2)	needs to be fixed as the proceed only masks the rattling sound. if the bushing are really worn you could get a low boost CEL from the wastagates not sealing. some dealers just replace the wastgates, some give new turbos, but either way it should be fixed.
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12-07-2010, 03:10 PM	#6
mohawk335i New Member 5 Rep 19 Posts Drives: 335i Convertible Join Date: Dec 2010 Location: Toronto, Ontario iTrader: (0)	Yea I do have rattling and engine cold. I thought it was just the muffler that was rattling because only one side of the muffler works currently. But when I took it to BMW they said the waste gates are giving the problems. From hearing this, do you believe it is a minor issue? Or one that can cause damage to the wallet in the future?
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Kolyan2k Major General 992 Rep 5,552 Posts Drives: 2006 S2000 Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: Boston iTrader: (1)	Rattle #1 usually when driving slow, and when you start the car IS exhaust valve rattle. No big deal, just unplug the valve plug in the trunk. Dont really need it anyway. Rattle #2 usually can hear when reving engine in N. This is wastegates. Can be a very big problem. Dealer procedure to fix: 1. Update all software, if not fixed: 2. Replace wastegates actuators, if not fixed: 3. Replace turbos Lots of people including me and DEALER confuse #1 and #2
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gerardm Captain 31 Rep 703 Posts Drives: '07 335i Sedan - Alpine White Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Rocky Point, NY iTrader: (5)	i was just at the dealer this morning i had taken it in a while back and they reprogrammed it which lasted for like oh idk half a day it seemed. today i was back for vanos and a broken door lock and the dude came in and was like didnt you come in here for wastegates. i was like yeah but it didnt really do anything he was like omg ive never heard wastegates that bad i think we need to get you some new turbos!! =]
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12-08-2010, 11:31 AM	#11
fisherbln Captain 12 Rep 859 Posts Drives: 2007 335i Coupe Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA iTrader: (2)	BMW refused to replace my wastegates under factory warranty. They denied they could even hear the noise. The month after my BMW warranty expired, I took it in to the dealer and they immediately claimed they could hear the noise and that my turbos needed to be replaced. I have an aftermarket warranty which covered it. The total bill was over $4000 ($100 deductible only for me). If it wasn't for my aftermarket warranty, I'd be suing BMW for this crap. __________________ 2007 335i SG Coupe 2009 128i AW
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335i Colonel 191 Rep 2,320 Posts Drives: TOYOTA & 2008 E92 335i 6MT Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Swiss iTrader: (4) Garage List 2008 335i [9.00]	my dealer not sais nothing about rattle when i visit them, maybe i dont have rattles __________________ E92 335i Black Saphire 6MT PROcede V5, BMS DCI, Big Tom IC, AR CL-DP's 3", AR Design OC, Forge DV's, OEM M3 side skirts, BMW Performance Wheels 19 inch 269 Black Gloss+Continental ContiSportContact 5P (400hp and 550nm) https://www.youtube.com/user/aistis7..._as=subscriber
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