[ETS Michael]

We have been on a few forums and the results are always different. I'm getting ready to put together our dyno sheets and before I start formatting and posting everything what type of dyno sheets do you guys like to see on the forum?

The dyno is a Dynojet. Standard seems to be uncorrected with a smoothing factory of 5. The dyno post sticky most people are doing STD though?

I made pretty decent power on pump gas with all the bolt on's, I can't wait for more. You will see a post up shortly with our numbers upgrade by upgrade.

Everything was done with the Procede Autotune default settings with map 12-17

Thanks!

Michael

[Iwantm3]

What are you coming out with ?

[ETS Michael]

These dyno sheets will be showing our basic bolt on gains.

Stock
Stock + Procede
Stock + Procede + Intake
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler + Downpipes
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler + Downpipes + Charge Pipe Upgrade

All on Pump Gas

Then we will do a few pulls with Race Gas with all the bolt on's before we move onto something a little bigger

Michael

[McMuffin]

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

These dyno sheets will be showing our basic bolt on gains.

Stock
Stock + Procede
Stock + Procede + Intake
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler + Downpipes
Stock + Procede + Intake + Exhaust + Intercooler + Downpipes + Charge Pipe Upgrade

All on Pump Gas

Then we will do a few pulls with Race Gas with all the bolt on's before we move onto something a little bigger

Michael

What's the ETA on this?

[ETS Michael]

The parts are done.. Hoping to record a couple videos tomorrow and get things going The exhaust system is super nice. It's dual 2.5" and follows similar to the stock route with 2 mufflers, it sounds really good. We used all v-band connections so you don't have to worry about any 2-bolts but the 2 flanges that connect to the downpipes. We also made the exhaust in 3 main sections, but each section in the 3 sections are separate if that makes since.

The intake looks mean! It has 2 huge filters in the engine bay. We also made a nice 3.0" charge pipe.

Hoping to get some graphs and pics up tomorrow, but it might be towards the first of the year when I get it all done. Depends on the work load The parts are amazing though. They are just like all the other parts we sell.

Michael

[R1000K3]

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

We have been on a few forums and the results are always different. I'm getting ready to put together our dyno sheets and before I start formatting and posting everything what type of dyno sheets do you guys like to see on the forum?

The dyno is a Dynojet. Standard seems to be uncorrected with a smoothing factory of 5. The dyno post sticky most people are doing STD though?

I made pretty decent power on pump gas with all the bolt on's, I can't wait for more. You will see a post up shortly with our numbers upgrade by upgrade.

Everything was done with the Procede Autotune default settings with map 12-17

Thanks!

Michael

Smoothing factor 5 is the norm. It seems many prefers the STD correction (since it yields higher figures) and a correction is needed anyway to make the run comparable to others, so why not. I personally like to see the actual power as well but STD and smoothing 5 are next to mandatory for the N54 to get a valid reference.

[335xiRT1]

New 12-17 maps are out?

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by 335xiRT1

New 12-17 maps are out?

They said 12-17

http://procedetuning.com/BMW/n54/dow...downloads.html

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by R1000K3

Smoothing factor 5 is the norm. It seems many prefers the STD correction (since it yields higher figures) and a correction is needed anyway to make the run comparable to others, so why not. I personally like to see the actual power as well but STD and smoothing 5 are next to mandatory for the N54 to get a valid reference.

That's what I get for not proof reading my post. Factor.. Factor.. Factor... no more factory

All the dyno results in the sticky are STD, so I guess we will do the same.

Michael

[Iwantm3]

wow ets is business !!!!! Very happy so much going on for n54 right now and these guys are good, I just hope it wont be overpriced like HPF

[McMuffin]

Cool!! Is there anyway you can test out plastic vs metal intercooler piping as well?

[335xiRT1]

Thanks
Looking forward to that 3" chargepipe. Hopefully it will be moderately priced.

[ETS Michael]

I think our dual 2.5" exhaust system from the downpipes back (does not include downpipes) is going to be around $1400-$1500 - I need to work out the final pricing.

The exhaust is all stainless steel with stainless steel v-band flanges and clamps. We use a very nice v-band flange.. None of the cheap billet flanges that warp, we used formed sheet metal flanges that seal nice and tight

Michael

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by McMuffin

Cool!! Is there anyway you can test out plastic vs metal intercooler piping as well?

Currently I have the stock intercooler piping besides our pipe that comes with the intercooler kit and we are making right at 400 on just pump gas. We are going to be replacing the charge pipe tomorrow and see what happens with that.

Michael

[McMuffin]

Originally Posted by ETS Michael

Currently I have the stock intercooler piping besides our pipe that comes with the intercooler kit and we are making right at 400 on just pump gas. We are going to be replacing the charge pipe tomorrow and see what happens with that.

Michael

[Iwantm3]

fuckkkkkkkkkkkk I hate teaserssss , oh and make that exhaust just a little under 1400 and you'll sell a lot of them I guarantee that =D

[McMuffin]

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[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

I'd like to see engine dyno sheets on engine tests conducted to both SAE standards J1995 and SAE J2723, under controlled conditions, in steady-state mode, on engine dynos that have been calibrated and confirmed accurate before and after the tests with the data corrected to SAE J1995 . Anything less in my experience, is a waste of time and effort.

http://www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm

The problem with those standardized testing procedures is not only does it require removing an engine from the car but it also doesn't establish a realistic charge cooling scenario for air/air intercoolers. In this respect a conventional and standard inertial dyno (dynojet) is probably the most useful real-world option.

shiv

[Iwantm3]

Snap a quickie of that intake pleaseee

[R1000K3]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

I'd like to see engine dyno sheets on engine tests conducted to both SAE standards J1995 and SAE J2723, under controlled conditions, in steady-state mode, on engine dynos that have been calibrated and confirmed accurate before and after the tests with the data corrected to SAE J1995 . Anything less in my experience, is a waste of time and effort.

http://www.sae.org/certifiedpower/details.htm

I disagree. In case the same dyno is used and the conditions are about the same and a correction is in place it is perfectly fine to compare the power for different mods on the same engine. It is not the absolute power that is of any interest in a case like this (OP's purpose), it is the difference caused by changing parts. The actual performance is also by far of more interest than a calibrated power figure.

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by TrackRat

Not true, but it sounds good if you don't have an engine dyno cell with proper climatic controls. Trust me... charge cooling is very easily control with external water spray on the I/C. I can run the engine WOT with any I/C or MAT temp that you desire, 24/7.

There are so many issues with chassis dyno testing that it's embarrassing to even consider a chassis dyno for power testing. The car companies use chassis dynos for emissions work and engine dynos for engine development and true power testing. I'm well aware that "tuners" like to use chassis dynos because they are "easy" but the data is basically worthless in my experience.

I'm not trying to start a pissfest, I was just answering the OP's question. I am sure those who believe in chassis dynos are not about to change any time soon. Carry on.

We have to work with the tools we have and unfortunately we don't have a full climate controlled dyno room with engine dyno. It would be hard to compare performance gains vs other shops if we all have different tools. The dynojets are calibrated pretty similar we are able to get almost identical results to shops in Florida with the same type of dyno and they are on the other side of the USA.

Thanks for your opinion though! It's not feasible for us to do that at this time.

[ETS Michael]

Originally Posted by Iwantm3

Snap a quickie of that intake pleaseee

The car is at the shop still, I had to drive my daily home. I will take some pictures tomorrow if we get everything buttoned up

The intakes on my car are the prototype the final intakes will most likely be cast.

Michael