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      03-21-2011, 04:00 PM   #1
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Procede V5 - how do you turn on the DP fix on Command Center?

I am just picking the car up from Bimmersport today. New AMS FMIC and AMS Catless DPs. Apparently, you need to turn on the DP fix in the Procede.

I have NOT connected the computer to the Procede yet. I just got this installed on Sunday.

What do I have to do so I don't throw any codes and get this setup correctly from Command Center?

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It's my belief you open the software, connect online to procede, open the "user maps" menu, then look and you'll find the "o2 modifier" value. Change this to 100.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong.
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If you've done the harness update, the o2 modifier will no longer work. Shiv has said in the past that the CANClear function will keep the Check Engine light off. However, if your state requires OBD readiness you will not pass that test.
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If you've done the harness update, the o2 modifier will no longer work. Shiv has said in the past that the CANClear function will keep the Check Engine light off. However, if your state requires OBD readiness you will not pass that test.
Oh yeah, this too.
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yup turn on CANclear and it will take care of the light. need a DP fix if you want/need readiness check.
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yup turn on CANclear and it will take care of the light. need a DP fix if you want/need readiness check.
Please keep in mind I am absolutely brand new to the Procede.

Do you know if the CANClear is turned on by default? If not, can I turn this on in the command center?

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Please keep in mind I am absolutely brand new to the Procede.

Do you know if the CANClear is turned on by default? If not, can I turn this on in the command center?

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It is on by default.
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You might also want to read over the User Maintained Procede manual if you want to learn more: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464460
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You might also want to read over the User Maintained Procede manual if you want to learn more: http://www.e90post.com/forums/showthread.php?t=464460
hi, I just printed this and the codes... I think I am set. Thanks a lot.
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Please let me know if I'm understanding the above posts correctly. The Can-Clear default setting is ON, meaning the o2 Modifier is default 100. So if you install downpipes and you have a freshly installed procede V5, you CanClear will prevent any DP replated codes from popping?

Second, if you don't have a harness update and have CanClear ON, you won't pass OBD readiness for smog related services? If this is the case how do you pass OBD readiness with DP's and updated harness? From what I read from the harness update thread, I don't see the benefit of the update expect for it opening up 1 analog input and 1 analog output channel (is this for the new meth kit?).


"Those racers who are using the o2 modifier feature to suppress cat codes shouldn't do this update. Or, better yet, they should AND get their DME software updated to someone more recent than circa-2007 so that CANclear works" What does this mean, so that CANclear works? My DME has been updated with a HPFP install, then my CanClear works? I ask this because I plan on going catless in the very near future and also have a smog in the future. Does V5 CanClear with no harness update and DP's pass readiness? Not smog emissions, but OBD readiness?
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Please let me know if I'm understanding the above posts correctly. The Can-Clear default setting is ON, meaning the o2 Modifier is default 100. So if you install downpipes and you have a freshly installed procede V5, you CanClear will prevent any DP replated codes from popping?

Second, if you don't have a harness update and have CanClear ON, you won't pass OBD readiness for smog related services? If this is the case how do you pass OBD readiness with DP's and updated harness? From what I read from the harness update thread, I don't see the benefit of the update expect for it opening up 1 analog input and 1 analog output channel (is this for the new meth kit?).


"Those racers who are using the o2 modifier feature to suppress cat codes shouldn't do this update. Or, better yet, they should AND get their DME software updated to someone more recent than circa-2007 so that CANclear works" What does this mean, so that CANclear works? My DME has been updated with a HPFP install, then my CanClear works? I ask this because I plan on going catless in the very near future and also have a smog in the future. Does V5 CanClear with no harness update and DP's pass readiness? Not smog emissions, but OBD readiness?
How "fresh" is your procede? Aren't they selling them now WITH the harness update already done? FWIW, a procede without a harness update can pass readiness without any cats.
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as i know they sell it with harness update as i ordered my v5 2010 12 29 sent to me on 2011 01 19 somewhere
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Please let me know if I'm understanding the above posts correctly. The Can-Clear default setting is ON, meaning the o2 Modifier is default 100. So if you install downpipes and you have a freshly installed procede V5, you CanClear will prevent any DP replated codes from popping?

Second, if you don't have a harness update and have CanClear ON, you won't pass OBD readiness for smog related services? If this is the case how do you pass OBD readiness with DP's and updated harness? From what I read from the harness update thread, I don't see the benefit of the update expect for it opening up 1 analog input and 1 analog output channel (is this for the new meth kit?).


"Those racers who are using the o2 modifier feature to suppress cat codes shouldn't do this update. Or, better yet, they should AND get their DME software updated to someone more recent than circa-2007 so that CANclear works" What does this mean, so that CANclear works? My DME has been updated with a HPFP install, then my CanClear works? I ask this because I plan on going catless in the very near future and also have a smog in the future. Does V5 CanClear with no harness update and DP's pass readiness? Not smog emissions, but OBD readiness?
1) I picked up the car last night with the DPs and FMIC and there were no SES or engine lights on ... and I gave it a fabulous work out. I am still trying to get the grin off my face....

2) I asked the question about emissions. In canada we have "drive clean" and our 08 cars are a year or so away from needing to do that. The answer is, we haven't needed to do a drive clean so nobody knows if catless DPs and the stock exhaust with cats (what I have) will pass drive clean. They told me to use Ultra 94 gas when I go in, and bring it in HOT for the best chances of passing.

I kept my stock DPs of course.
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Please let me know if I'm understanding the above posts correctly. The Can-Clear default setting is ON, meaning the o2 Modifier is default 100. So if you install downpipes and you have a freshly installed procede V5, you CanClear will prevent any DP replated codes from popping?

Second, if you don't have a harness update and have CanClear ON, you won't pass OBD readiness for smog related services? If this is the case how do you pass OBD readiness with DP's and updated harness? From what I read from the harness update thread, I don't see the benefit of the update expect for it opening up 1 analog input and 1 analog output channel (is this for the new meth kit?).


"Those racers who are using the o2 modifier feature to suppress cat codes shouldn't do this update. Or, better yet, they should AND get their DME software updated to someone more recent than circa-2007 so that CANclear works" What does this mean, so that CANclear works? My DME has been updated with a HPFP install, then my CanClear works? I ask this because I plan on going catless in the very near future and also have a smog in the future. Does V5 CanClear with no harness update and DP's pass readiness? Not smog emissions, but OBD readiness?
Harness update eliminates O2 modifier..a good thing because it can slightly skew the values read by the ECU

Canclear is on all the time, deleting cat codes

If you have an old software, like pre 29.2, there is a small glitch where sometimes you will get a half-engine light. It usually goes away shortly after and doesn't cause a limp, just annoying...I know because this is the category I fall in.
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Harness update eliminates O2 modifier..a good thing because it can slightly skew the values read by the ECU

Canclear is on all the time, deleting cat codes

If you have an old software, like pre 29.2, there is a small glitch where sometimes you will get a half-engine light. It usually goes away shortly after and doesn't cause a limp, just annoying...I know because this is the category I fall in.
Love your disclaimer.... think it would work? i am sure a lot of dealers are on this site....
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Love your disclaimer.... think it would work? i am sure a lot of dealers are on this site....
Can't hurt and will def undermine any attempt to use stuff said on the board, but that is for the jury/judge to decide. Feel free to add it to your sig.
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1) I picked up the car last night with the DPs and FMIC and there were no SES or engine lights on ... and I gave it a fabulous work out. I am still trying to get the grin off my face....

2) I asked the question about emissions. In canada we have "drive clean" and our 08 cars are a year or so away from needing to do that. The answer is, we haven't needed to do a drive clean so nobody knows if catless DPs and the stock exhaust with cats (what I have) will pass drive clean. They told me to use Ultra 94 gas when I go in, and bring it in HOT for the best chances of passing.

I kept my stock DPs of course.
Doesn't show up right away usually so that means absolutely nothing IMO. Fat chance passing with catless DPs and stock exhaust. I have AR Catted DPs and my car never had any codes before. I recently had my injectors and HPFP replaced necessitating an update to the latest ECU software, and by the time I got home (15 miles) I had 10740 & 10741 cat inefficiency codes. Yeah I have the harness update. Not looking good, I have emissions testing coming up in couple of months too. I think someone from the Vishnu gang needs to chime in clarify the misinformation about this as I am pretty sure there is misunderstanding. I turned on CANclear, but think I have to reverse the update to go do SMOG test and I am no longer sure the catted DPs will even let me pass knowing the latest BMW software seems to be throwing codes. I have never had codes, and software update is the only new thing on my car, so there you have it!
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Doesn't show up right away usually so that means absolutely nothing IMO. Fat chance passing with catless DPs and stock exhaust. I have AR Catted DPs and my car never had any codes before. I recently had my injectors and HPFP replaced necessitating an update to the latest ECU software, and by the time I got home (15 miles) I had 10740 & 10741 cat inefficiency codes. Yeah I have the harness update. Not looking good, I have emissions testing coming up in couple of months too. I think someone from the Vishnu gang needs to chime in clarify the misinformation about this as I am pretty sure there is misunderstanding. I turned on CANclear, but think I have to reverse the update to go do SMOG test and I am no longer sure the catted DPs will even let me pass knowing the latest BMW software seems to be throwing codes. I have never had codes, and software update is the only new thing on my car, so there you have it!
With CanClear on you wont get any 02 related codes since they will be cleared before they come up.
For readiness and passing emission testing you need to reverse the harness update temporarely and set 02 modifier to like 50 or so (maybe higher because you have catted dps) . Just reverse it like 2 weeks before the test, set canclear off and run the car on 50 modifier to see if codes come up. There is also a description on the best way to get readiness drive done. search i am sure you will find it quickly.
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