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      09-22-2011, 05:04 PM   #1
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HPF FMIC inlet/outlet too restrictive for high boost application ?

I've already had one, but it was during the winter and my car was broken for 90% of the time, I'm about to order another one but running fbo+meth I'm afraid that hot/cold side inlet diameter is too restrictive creating big pressure drop, what do you guys think ? NO VENDORS PLEASE ( my other option is ETS 7 or AMS )
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you can order the hpf intercooler with non-factory connections, that use silicone hoses and hose clamps like the ets and ams intercoolers do, just fyi. i used to run the hpf intercooler and had no complaints with stock connections.
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      09-22-2011, 06:42 PM   #3
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They don't sell silicone couplers and they don't even know which ones to get, they also stated that no one has installed it that way, Thanks !


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      09-22-2011, 08:53 PM   #4
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      09-23-2011, 02:23 AM   #5
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Have you looked at Helix?
yeah, but I'm not sure on that stepped design, I'm not sure about the flow with those weird end tanks
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just go with AA a little more but seems to work great.
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Stock connections are not the best option.
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      09-23-2011, 03:40 AM   #9
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just go with AA a little more but seems to work great.
I'm thinking either that or the AMS
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I ordered my HPF intercooler in the very beginning. I ordered it with connections for silicone couplers , but guess what , i recieved it with stock couplers. Since i'm from europe it wasn't easy to send it back and forth again , and i'm still believing they just don't have them with silicone couplers.

Annyway i cut off the stock couplers , made some silicone couplers from aluminum on a mill and welded them on.

I'll try to dig up some pics and measurements , but as far as i can remember i think i made them 3" outlet. On the hot side i used a silicone straight reduction from 3 to 2.5 or 2.75" . This one fitrs traight to the turbo outlet piping. On the cold side i used a 90° siliconbe bend that reduces from 3 to 2.75 or 2.5". That one is connected to the aluminum piping that was provided with my ER charge pipe. I did have to cut sometging of this pipe cause it was a bit too long.
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Check out the AMS price here... http://www.allaftermarketpartsonline...=p2751-c145456
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All the options mentioned perform about the same

Ets, ams, helix, AA, all great options. Pick one and forget about it. I use ets 5 and couldn't be happier. I started with xo2 knock off and I had no pressure drop difference from my ets. Ams was on the top of my list but I found a used ets local for the right price. If your serious about performance, look at the weight of the unit. If you just trying to support your high boost tune on the street, any of the units mentioned have similar pressure drop. My xo2 weighed 3x as much as my ets, same temps, same pressure drop. Next look at ease of install. My ets slid in like an oem unit. For track performance, look at the larger AA, ets, ER, and the stepped helix. If money was no issue, the stepped helix offers the latest design technologies. Anything but the stocker!
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THANKS ! so this fit with no problem with those two hoses ? Thanks again !
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You arent going to notice any difference man....Look at the size of the pipe that flows in and out of the fmic.

Just get whatever is in stock for the best price. don't get all caught up in trying to squeeze an extra .5hp out of the car jumping through hoops.

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I'm runnin HPF with factory connections on 18+ psi. No problems whatsoever. No difference in dynos compared to two other cars with the same mods but different fmic same day same dyno, and actually posted .1 sec faster in the 1/4 so to me it doesn't seem like it's a restriction.
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I'm runnin HPF with factory connections on 18+ psi. No problems whatsoever. No difference in dynos compared to two other cars with the same mods but different fmic same day same dyno, and actually posted .1 sec faster in the 1/4 so to me it doesn't seem like it's a restriction.
That's weird how come all other brands like ams ets and helix replace the inlet stating stock is restrictive
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That's weird how come all other brands like ams ets and helix replace the inlet stating stock is restrictive
it's more convenient for them not to have to deal with c-clip connectors.
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I'm runnin HPF with factory connections on 18 psi. No problems whatsoever. No difference in dynos compared to two other cars with the same mods but different fmic same day same dyno, and actually posted .1 sec faster in the 1/4 so to me it doesn't seem like it's a restriction.
That's weird how come all other brands like ams ets and helix replace the inlet stating stock is restrictive
$$$ cheaper to manufacture
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I mean it probably is a little more restrictive but you aren't going to notice any performance difference out in the real world, at least from my experiences.
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