[SfValley335i]

Lastnight when I got home from work I found a little brown box from Active Autowerke. After relaxing for a little bit I decided to install it right away instead of waiting to install with ABTEK818 which was going to install his procede today.


Install:

+ color coded wires

+ no use of tape like in the procede install because AA includes sleeves to cover connections

+ wiring harness is quality work, it has a rubber cover & a plastic netting around the cables.

Major Plus:

+ AA Xede does not require a ground thus its impossible to see the mod. No wires coming out of the ECU compartment like Procede (ground).

+ Super fast shipping, available when you call



I've also owned a Turbo Tuner and now a AA Xede. I can say both feel the same from 1k-2800rpm but at about 3k to 6500 rpm the Xede shines.

Car pushes hard at 3k and is amazing around 5500rpm. I also noticed my MPG did not drop, but with the Turbo Tuner for some reason the car said I was getting less mpg.

Either way I'm really glad I got the AA Xede. Best quality product for the money and practically zero wait time. Lets see Vishnu do that

I called out ABTEK818 to do a AA Xede vs Procede run tonight but he gave a soft refusal. Hopefully this post will push him into agreeing.


** Looking for a 335 with Procede only to do a few runs with. Preferably a 335 sedan with 6AT. (LA area)

[sflgator]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Lastnight when I got home from work I found a little brown box from Active Autowerke. After relaxing for a little bit I decided to install it right away instead of waiting to install with ABTEK818 which was going to install his procede today.


Install:

+ color coded wires

+ no use of tape like in the procede install because AA includes sleeves to cover connections

+ wiring harness is quality work, it has a rubber cover & a plastic netting around the cables.

Major Plus:

+ AA Xede does not require a ground thus its impossible to see the mod. No wires coming out of the ECU compartment like Procede (ground).

+ Super fast shipping, available when you call



I've also owned a Turbo Tuner and now a AA Xede. I can say both feel the same from 1k-2800rpm but at about 3k to 6500 rpm the Xede shines.

Car pushes hard at 3k and is amazing around 5500rpm. I also noticed my MPG did not drop, but with the Turbo Tuner for some reason the car said I was getting less mpg.

Either way I'm really glad I got the AA Xede. Best quality product for the money and practically zero wait time. Lets see Vishnu do that

I called out ABTEK818 to do a AA Xede vs Procede run tonight but he gave a soft refusal. Hopefully this post will push him into agreeing.


** Looking for a 335 with Procede only to do a few runs with. Preferably a 335 sedan with 6AT. (LA area)

Glad you like the AA XEDE; I've always said the XEDE with good s/w from Shiv or AA is a great addition to the 335i. btw -- the only reason for Shiv's "wait time" for the PROcede is b/c for every 1 XEDE ordered, about 10 PROcedes have been ordered. These things don't come off a robot assembly line you know. If AA or another small tuner had that kind of order volume in such a relatively short period of time, they'd have a little backlog as well.

[Sparky66]

A dyno run to support the baseline and increase in HP/TQ would be interesting. Will you be able to get upgrade map software for the AA XEDE in the future to support any further mods you make to your cars engine ? Who takes care of the programming and software support ?

[Terry335]

I'm going to hit Irwindale Thursday, any procede owners care to come out for a little heads-up action?

[e.n335]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Major Plus:

+ AA Xede does not require a ground thus its impossible to see the mod. No wires coming out of the ECU compartment like Procede (ground).

Hmmm ... this AA/XEde ground thing makes me nervous. The e90 series has a high current ground and low current signal ground.

The high crurrent ground is basicly the car body. Most electronics use this ground for grounding the devices power. The low current ground is for signal ground wires and not directly connected to the car body to avoid signal noise and / or side effects. I hope, AA did not ground the AA/XEde to the signal ground. Please investigate !

Cheers
Eugen

[fanman]

If you are in Northridge you can go to LA Performance Division to get it dynoed. They are located in Chatsworth on Canoga Ave. Go place. Big Vette shop.

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Hmmm ... this AA/XEde ground thing makes me nervous. The e90 series has a high current ground and low current signal ground.

The high crurrent ground is basicly the car body. Most electronics use this ground for the devices power. The low current ground is for signal ground wires and not directly connected to the car body to avoid signal noise and / or side effects. I hope, AA did not ground the AA XE/de to the signal ground. Please investigate !

Cheers
Eugen

[Jean@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by shiv@vishnu

Are you serious?

[Terry335]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Hmmm ... this AA/XEde ground thing makes me nervous. The e90 series has a high current ground and low current signal ground.

The high crurrent ground is basicly the car body. Most electronics use this ground for grounding the devices power. The low current ground is for signal ground wires and not directly connected to the car body to avoid signal noise and / or side effects. I hope, AA did not ground the AA XE/de to the signal ground. Please investigate !

Cheers
Eugen

I'm not overly familar with the ground arrangement but it must be picking up a signal ground. I don't see how this could be an issue at all, the Xede has a pretty low current draw. I haven't noticed any negative effects in my 335.

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

Hmmm ... this AA/XEde ground thing makes me nervous. The e90 series has a high current ground and low current signal ground.

The high crurrent ground is basicly the car body. Most electronics use this ground for grounding the devices power. The low current ground is for signal ground wires and not directly connected to the car body to avoid signal noise and / or side effects. I hope, AA did not ground the AA XE/de to the signal ground. Please investigate !

Cheers
Eugen

Whatever it is, it works fine without any problems. I'm sure their beta users had no issues as well thats why the product is for sale now. Either way, AA covers their product with 1 year warranty, if it breaks they'll send me a new one Plus I can take it into the dealer without them wondering what this extra ground wire is coming from.....

[OpenFlash]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

Whatever it is, it works fine without any problems. I'm sure their beta users had no issues as well thats why the product is for sale now. Either way, AA covers their product with 1 year warranty, if it breaks they'll send me a new one Plus I can take it into the dealer without them wondering what this extra ground wire is coming from.....

Ummm yeah.. if that visible ground is really a concern, PRocede users can use on of the screws that holds the ECU cradle to the chassis as the ground point.

-shiv

[SfValley335i]

Originally Posted by sflgator

Glad you like the AA XEDE; I've always said the XEDE with good s/w from Shiv or AA is a great addition to the 335i. btw -- the only reason for Shiv's "wait time" for the PROcede is b/c for every 1 XEDE ordered, about 10 PROcedes have been ordered. These things don't come off a robot assembly line you know. If AA or another small tuner had that kind of order volume in such a relatively short period of time, they'd have a little backlog as well.

I dont care how the product is made or if the shop cannot make them fast enough. Main point is AA has no wait time. which is a big deal to me, since I wouldnt want to wait 3 weeks for a mod. Thats another reason why I didnt order my 335 and just picked one up from the dealer.

wait time = loss of customers

[Omar@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by sflgator

btw -- the only reason for Shiv's "wait time" for the PROcede is b/c for every 1 XEDE ordered, about 10 PROcedes have been ordered. These things don't come off a robot assembly line you know. If AA or another small tuner had that kind of order volume in such a relatively short period of time, they'd have a little backlog as well.

You assume way too much sir. We have sold a good amount of boxes and I doubt we will ever have such a backlog. The main issue is harnesses and we have the manpower to have them made, and as you read above they are made carefully and without the use of black tape

[jonm42]

Ok folks -- this is a review thread, not a vendor slam thread. Please stay on topic and keep the snide quality remarks to a minimum, if you please? :rocks: Thank you.

[SfValley335i]

wow i love the IGNORE SHIV button under userCP. No more non sense.


I wish I wouldve taken a picture of the AA wiring harness so Shiv could learn from them and make a quality harness part of his Procede...

You paid $1300 for a Procede yet you must use TAPE to hold it in place

[Ninjaneer]

[Jean@ActiveAutowerke]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

wow i love the IGNORE SHIV button under userCP. No more non sense.


I wish I wouldve taken a picture of the AA wiring harness so Shiv could learn from them and make a quality harness part of his Procede...

You paid $1300 for a Procede yet you must use TAPE to hold it in place

[LOLrance]

[caesardog217]

Originally Posted by SfValley335i

wow i love the IGNORE SHIV button under userCP. No more non sense.


I wish I wouldve taken a picture of the AA wiring harness so Shiv could learn from them and make a quality harness part of his Procede...

You paid $1300 for a Procede yet you must use TAPE to hold it in place

[e.n335]

It's my time now

Sometimes it seems to me that you Americans have somehow the me mentality: It works, so what ? Cool with that, but there are many, many other factors that get things to work or to break. Not every error will occur on the first day, not everything you see is real. Don't take this wrong. I am working for a big swiss bank, responsible for managing a part of the productive global IT infrastructure ( men and material, if you like so ). I have peers and friends in America. But it's quite a bit different thinking between Europeans and Americans. And of course, Asian people. What I wrote about grounding devices and signals you can find here in this forum ( BMW documentation ).

So please think about, investigate and correct the issue, if there is one. I'm concerned.

Cheers
Eugen

[lawdude]

The obligatory vendor slamming by members, and digs at competition at every opportunity is wearing thin. I guess I shouldn't be surprised since forum members fight over every little thing anyway. Anyone remember the Klasse/Zaino wars on the detail boards?

I know nothing I say will even slow it down, but good grief guys, whenever the urge to bicker comes on, why not take that opportunity to get busy with your wife/girlfriend. If you still feel like being ornery after that, you probably weren't busy enough.

[radgator1]

Originally Posted by eugen.niederreiter

It's my time now

Sometimes it seems to me that you Americans have somehow the me mentality: It works, so what ? Cool with that, but there are many, many other factors that get things to work or to break. Not every error will occur on the first day, not everything you see is real. Don't take this wrong. I am working for a big swiss bank, responsible to manage a part of the productive global IT infrastructure ( men and material, if you like so ). I have peers and friends in America. But it's quite a bit different thinking between Europeans and Americans. And of course, Asian people. What I wrote about grounding devices and signals you can find here in this forum.

So please think about, investigate and correct the issue, if there is one. I'm concerned.

Cheers
Eugen

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