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      12-31-2012, 01:11 PM   #1
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64 bit or 32 bit?

In the thread "BMW Coding Success"
Is that on 64 bit or 32 bit machine?

I need help setting up NCS Expert to code my car.
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      12-31-2012, 02:58 PM   #2
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If you use a 32-bit OS you can run NCS Expert directly, in a 64-bit OS you need to run a 32-bit VM and install NCS in it.
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      12-31-2012, 03:02 PM   #3
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Let me know if you need to go the VM route I can send you mine that's presetup
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      12-31-2012, 05:09 PM   #4
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Rich, you really help out.
I greatly appreciate it.
Yes I have to go with the vm route.
Send it.
Email: darknemesis1@gmail.com

What I don't understand how set up a 32 bit vm.
Does that mean install winxp in vm.
Then some how install NCS expert in it?

Thx again and happy new year.
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      12-31-2012, 05:19 PM   #5
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I'm considering getting a laptop and would want to use it for my JB4 and to maybe try my hand at coding my car. I see that most new laptops are 64 bit. I am a complete idiot when it comes to computers as I have not really had reason to get into learning about them. I presume that a 64 bit computer will run better/faster than a 32 bit computer? How hard is it to set up a "VM" and what does that even mean/stand for?
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I'm considering getting a laptop and would want to use it for my JB4 and to maybe try my hand at coding my car. I see that most new laptops are 64 bit. I am a complete idiot when it comes to computers as I have not really had reason to get into learning about them. I presume that a 64 bit computer will run better/faster than a 32 bit computer? How hard is it to set up a "VM" and what does that even mean/stand for?
VM stands for virtual machine, similar to dual boot os. You can run the 32 bit version of an OS virtually. 64 bit machines are faster, however, incompatible with the software needed to code. I was considering buying a used laptop off ebay for these purposes.
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NCS expert don't work on 64bit windows. INPA does work fine though. If your main OS is 64bit, you'll need a virtual Machine. VirtualBox is free and does work with INPA/NCS Expert.
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How do you install nips and NCS expert in vm.
Do I have to load winxp in vm first then within xp, install inpa and NCS expert?
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      12-31-2012, 08:32 PM   #9
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You have to load up VMware onto the laptop so u also need to get a copy of Vmware with the key code to run it on your computer. Then you run the a VM machine which if your getting it from Rich is preloaded with windows XP and all the software that's already on the machine. All u would need to do is configure only the comport setting and just plug in the cable and it should work right off the bat, that is if the cable is not defective.
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Rich, you really help out.
I greatly appreciate it.
Yes I have to go with the vm route.
Send it.
Email: darknemesis1@gmail.com

What I don't understand how set up a 32 bit vm.
Does that mean install winxp in vm.
Then some how install NCS expert in it?

Thx again and happy new year.
DN
Ill pm you right now bud I put some quick instructions in the rar
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NCS expert don't work on 64bit windows. INPA does work fine though. If your main OS is 64bit, you'll need a virtual Machine. VirtualBox is free and does work with INPA/NCS Expert.
Well thats a bullcrap, of course ncs work with 64bit windows, you just need to have proper version
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... Or you guys could just dual boot x86 and x64 windows and call it a day.. Lol
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How do you install nips and NCS expert in vm.
Do I have to load winxp in vm first then within xp, install inpa and NCS expert?
Yes, that's the procedure. Many use VMware, which you have to buy. VirtualBox provides the same features and also works fine (that's what I use, it also works on Mac OS btw).


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Well thats a bullcrap, of course ncs work with 64bit windows, you just need to have proper version
I have NCS expert v3.0.8 and never managed to have it to work fine on win7-64. It worked in 10s with win7-32 (not even enabling xp mode). Is there a 64bit version of NCS ?
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Yes it is and work like a charm i bought it from one of forum member ( well the former one ) , but yes its all in german but thats not a problem for me lol

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Let me know if you need to go the VM route I can send you mine that's presetup
If you don't mind, can you also send it to me. I've been trying to troubleshoot for two days on why I can't get INPALOAD so hope this help. I tried running it on both my laptops (64 bit windows 7 (which according to this thead don't work) and my 32 bit Vista). I'm downloading VirtualBox now. Let me know and I'll shoot you my emal address.
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Let me know if you need to go the VM route I can send you mine that's presetup
Can you PM me the details? I was about to make one from scratch.
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Since a lot of 'car' type software loves Windows XP I partitioned the hdd and dual boot 32bit XP and 64bit Windows 7.
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i was having this same problem last night while i was trying to code my car and never got it to work. i am going to turn again thursday with a different laptop unless some one has a easy way to do it on the 64 bit
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if anyone can provide some incite please PM me the details so i can tget this figured out and get my car coded properly thanks !!!
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I created a WMVare partition and installed XP to it. I put the SP-Daten v48 on there with the standard tools 2.11. I'll verify it works when I get home tonight.

http://thepiratebay.sx/torrent/7560527/ - WMVare
http://baymirror.com/torrent/4535425...P3_-_Activated - Windows XP

Install WMVare. Create a partition. Point the OS selection to the ISO of XP you downloaded. Copy over the Daten and use either the BMW Standard Tools installer or the more popular NCEXPERT.rar that goes with the PDF tutorial.
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Since a lot of 'car' type software loves Windows XP I partitioned the hdd and dual boot 32bit XP and 64bit Windows 7.
Since then I have installed the newer BMW Tools software, BMW Logging, Procede and Virtual Dyno software onto my 64 bit windows partition and everything seems to be working fine. No virtual machine software used.
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