Details on the Toyota and Subaru Collaboration

SpecC · 10-07-2007, 06:43 AM

for a sports car that is... and this is quite embarrassing to post...

http://www.autoblog.com/2007/09/26/t...big-questions/

it might be a fun little thing when we see it but SOHC? that is a thing of the past in sports cars... i'm thoroughly disappointed in both companies

evoi19 · 10-07-2007, 06:58 AM

well considering that their plan is to introduce an entry level "sporty" car for under $17k a SOHC is probably the most cost efficient for them. But the HP is pretty dismal i must say. Minus well pay a little more and get a Tc. LOL

Chris.G · 10-07-2007, 07:00 AM

What did you expect! This is what happens when Toyota involves itself into producing a sports car. The only great performance car they produced was the Supra and from there they went to making reliable and economic cars.

SpecC · 10-07-2007, 07:02 AM

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Originally Posted by evo119

well considering that their plan is to introduce an entry level "sporty" car for under $17k a SOHC is probably the most cost efficient for them. But the HP is pretty dismal i must say. Minus well pay a little more and get a Tc. LOL

punk!

Year's_End · 10-07-2007, 05:03 PM

What about that Toyota FT-HS or whatever it's gonna be called?

Kiemyster · 10-07-2007, 05:25 PM

i wonder what those subaru fanboys have to say now?

SpecC · 10-07-2007, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Kiemyster

i wonder what those subaru fanboys have to say now?

toyota's messing with us, big time!

ik999 · 10-07-2007, 11:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris.G

The only great performance car they produced was the Supra and from there they went to making reliable and economic cars.

+1

The only good Toyota performance cars which come to mind are the st204 Celica, mr2, SC400, and the latest Supra.

But don't underestimate the power of engineering. Of what they lack in experience, they could make up for with technical expertise. Their upcoming cars look promising.

like the Lexus LF-A

ChineseGuy · 10-08-2007, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by ik999

+1

The only good Toyota performance cars which come to mind are the st204 Celica, mr2, SC400, and the latest Supra.

But don't underestimate the power of engineering. Of what they lack in experience, they could make up for with technical expertise. Their upcoming cars look promising.

like the Lexus LF-A

mr2 is pretty crappy stock....it's only good after you tune it...

herbz · 10-08-2007, 01:27 PM

I'm gonna give toyota a chance here. I'm always open to the idea of a lightweight rear wheel drive car. when was the last time bmw came out with a car under 3000 lbs? I'm just sick of these sports cars that have a diluted driving experience because of the obscene weight of modern cars. its refreshing to see a modern lightweight rwd car being made today, regardless of who makes it.

evoi19 · 10-08-2007, 03:17 PM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

mr2 is pretty crappy stock....it's only good after you tune it...

the mr2 TT's engine was pretty strong. You can add a good amount of HP to it and the bottom end would hold up fine.

vAnt826 · 10-08-2007, 03:51 PM

Why is this even considered a sports car?

Its under 110hp.

Knowing Toyota, its going to have hubcaps as a base model.

ChineseGuy · 10-08-2007, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by evo119

the mr2 TT's engine was pretty strong. You can add a good amount of HP to it and the bottom end would hold up fine.

i'm not talking about the engine...

the gay thing is the handling and the suspensions....you'll get it when you drive one.....

SpecC · 10-08-2007, 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

i'm not talking about the engine...

the gay thing is the handling and the suspensions....you'll get it when you drive one.....

i think you mean the slippery handling at high speeds

it was still one hell of a car for its price at the time. it's still pretty popular around here today!

ChineseGuy · 10-08-2007, 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by SpecC

i think you mean the slippery handling at high speeds

it was still one hell of a car for its price at the time. it's still pretty popular around here today!

wouldn't be too good of a car if i'm afraid to go fast with it...

and not only in high speeds, even when i'm cruising in city areas, i still don't like how the car runs....

i dunno, maybe it's just me....

SpecC · 10-09-2007, 12:44 AM

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Originally Posted by ChineseGuy

wouldn't be too good of a car if i'm afraid to go fast with it...

and not only in high speeds, even when i'm cruising in city areas, i still don't like how the car runs....

i dunno, maybe it's just me....

i know exactly what you mean, but for a car at that price, it's not that expensive to get it fixed. Just grab a sways, a strut if you really want and some stiffer springs or coilovers and you'd be fine

Kiemyster · 10-09-2007, 12:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SpecC

toyota's messing with us, big time!

fuck that! im a Lancer Evolution Lover all the way! subaru can eat my glock.

SpecC · 10-09-2007, 12:51 AM

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fuck that! im a Lancer Evolution Lover all the way! subaru can eat my glock.

man we're going to send someone like fiat at you lol

Kiemyster · 10-09-2007, 01:26 AM

tell him to bring his shit! lol!!!

its personal preference. but the lancer evo 7 to me is the king of evo's. i drove subaru's, yeah. they are "fun". but nothing touched that evo 7 gsr. sorry, no way in hell.

SpecC · 10-09-2007, 01:28 AM

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tell him to bring his shit! lol!!!

its personal preference. but the lancer evo 7 to me is the king of evo's. i drove subaru's, yeah. they are "fun". but nothing touched that evo 7 gsr. sorry, no way in hell.

i beg to differ. the mother of all subaru imprezas, 22B was a real monster! And if you ask me, a huge evo fan on my own, i'd say the Evo VI has the most potential. This was before mitsu went crazy on machines and assists.

!Xoible · 10-09-2007, 01:30 AM

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ChineseGuy · 10-09-2007, 03:14 AM

EVO V !!~

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